BF2S Forums Israel and Palestine

dayarath wrote:

The EU is Israel's largest trading partner, accounting for 27% of Israeli exports and 43% of Israeli imports.

Well then clearly they aren't really trying with their sanctions.

AussieReaper wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

The EU restricts trade with Israel, criticises them regularly, sends aid to the Palestinians, supports fair negotiations - you may have heard of the Oslo accords - and supports action in the UN.

China and Russia restrict trade with Israel, criticise them regularly, send aid to the Palestinians, support fair negotiations and support action in the UN.

Looks like both sides going along group lines (U.S. and allies support Israel/U.S. rivals don't support Israel) for the sake of annoying each other.

Meh, I don't care about any of them.

The EU are allies with the US........................

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-02-21 17:02:18)

JohnG@lt wrote:

Why Australians care so much about people halfway around the world is beyond me. Shouldn't you be out working for the restoration of the Aboriginees ancient tribal lands or something? Or working to fix the Barrier Reef? Don't you have more pressing matters close to home?

Dilbert_X wrote:

Nice try at psychoanalysis, I think you should stick to high-school mechanics problems.
As I said, why not try debating the points instead of attacking individuals - or stay out of the thread.

I know I'll try it:

You've read a few books about Libertarianism but neither really understand it or the ramifcations nor care that your 'liberty' may well mean someone elses suffering.
You've said often enough that you don't care about other people, if they live or die or how they live or even how the animals you eat are treated up to their death, whether they suffer horribly means nothing to you so long as you can fill your face and get ever fatter.

You're like all libertarians, selfish, self-absorbed, ignorant and ultimately irrelevant since libertarianism simply does not have a place in a coherent society. You espouse 'liberty' just so long as you get it at everyone elses expense and don't care that others don't because it could impinge on yours which is a consequence you can't consider.

Go live in a mountain top shack with a dog smug in the knowledge that he won't argue with your nonsense but will wag his tail and slobber when you need some fawning adulation.

The worst part is you're old enough to realize that actions have consequences and you can't just go dicking around with the borders on a map without causing a lot of pain, hardship, and yes, death.

Which is strange because the US and Israel have no difficulty deciding who can be displaced and to where, under what political system they should live and who gets to live and who dies.

JG wrote:

And right back to your childish attacks on "the man". Like fucking clockwork.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-02-21 17:37:03)

JG wrote:

Now as for you attacking my time in the service. Not only is that laughable, it should be beneath you. Alas it's not, so I guess I'll explain my reasoning. I didn't join to kill brown people or yellow people or red people or black people. I didn't join to be anyones pawn or tool. I joined because the military offered me a path to a free education and the opportunity to take a step back from my life to reflect before I dove headlong into a career path. Did anyone hold a gun to my head and tell me to join? No. Did I hear a marching tune, watch a flag wave, and have my heart fill with national pride on my way to the recruiter? No. I joined for my own personal reasons and not 'to defend the nation'. It was a job I was paid to perform. Nothing more, nothing less. Is it an important job? Absolutely. Someone has to do it.

Lastly, my belief system is based on people living their own lives and being responsible for themselves. Why that scares you or is cause for your derision is beyond me.

Clearly I've pegged you brilliantly.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-02-21 17:51:38)

An interesting fact about white people is that they firmly believe that all of the world’s problems can be solved through “awareness.”  Meaning the process of making other people aware of problems, and then magically someone else like the government will fix it.

This belief allows them to feel that sweet self-satisfaction without actually having to solve anything or face any difficult challenges.  Because, the only challenge of raising awareness is people not being aware.  In a worst case scenario, if you fail someone doesn’t know about the problem.  End of story.

What makes this even more appealing for white people is that you can raise “awareness” through expensive dinners, parties, marathons, selling t-shirts, fashion shows, concerts, eating at restaurants and bracelets.  In other words, white people just have to keep doing stuff they like, EXCEPT now they can feel better about making a difference.

Raising awareness is also awesome because once you raise awareness to an acceptable, aribtrary level, you can just back off and say “Bam! did my part.  Now it’s your turn.  Fix it.”

So to summarize – you get all the benefits of helping (self satisfaction, telling other people) but no need for difficult decisions or the ensuing criticism (how do you criticize awareness?).  Once again, white people find a way to score that sweet double victory.

Popular things to be aware of: The Environment, Diseases like Cancer and AIDS, Africa, Poverty, Anorexia, Homophobia,  Midde School Field Hockey/Lacrosse teams, Drug Rehab, and political prisoners.

JohnG@lt wrote:

An interesting fact about white people is that they firmly believe that all of the world’s problems can be solved through “awareness.”  Meaning the process of making other people aware of problems, and then magically someone else like the government will fix it.

This belief allows them to feel that sweet self-satisfaction without actually having to solve anything or face any difficult challenges.  Because, the only challenge of raising awareness is people not being aware.  In a worst case scenario, if you fail someone doesn’t know about the problem.  End of story.

What makes this even more appealing for white people is that you can raise “awareness” through expensive dinners, parties, marathons, selling t-shirts, fashion shows, concerts, eating at restaurants and bracelets.  In other words, white people just have to keep doing stuff they like, EXCEPT now they can feel better about making a difference.

Raising awareness is also awesome because once you raise awareness to an acceptable, aribtrary level, you can just back off and say “Bam! did my part.  Now it’s your turn.  Fix it.”

So to summarize – you get all the benefits of helping (self satisfaction, telling other people) but no need for difficult decisions or the ensuing criticism (how do you criticize awareness?).  Once again, white people find a way to score that sweet double victory.

Popular things to be aware of: The Environment, Diseases like Cancer and AIDS, Africa, Poverty, Anorexia, Homophobia,  Midde School Field Hockey/Lacrosse teams, Drug Rehab, and political prisoners.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01 … awareness/

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-02-21 18:00:36)