They wouldn't leave the market unless they thought it wasn't profitable.Miggle wrote:
how about microsoft bought the devs?S.Lythberg wrote:
The PC gamers pirated, hacked, and bitched the developers right out of the market, and now they pirate, hack, and bitch to try and stop itFlecco wrote:
I'd say dedicated server support will come in a patch pretty soon. The whole release seems to smack of LETS MAKE MONEY FROM TEH CONSOLE MARKET AND NEGLECT THE PLATFORM WHICH HAS SUPPORTED US SO FAR.
it's profitable because microsoft buys them.S.Lythberg wrote:
They wouldn't leave the market unless they thought it wasn't profitable.Miggle wrote:
how about microsoft bought the devs?S.Lythberg wrote:
The PC gamers pirated, hacked, and bitched the developers right out of the market, and now they pirate, hack, and bitch to try and stop it
And repurposes them into console game developers. Microsoft makes computers too, it's what they're best at, they'd support the PC gaming industry if they thought there was money to be made.Miggle wrote:
it's profitable because microsoft buys them.S.Lythberg wrote:
They wouldn't leave the market unless they thought it wasn't profitable.Miggle wrote:
how about microsoft bought the devs?
how would MS make more money from gaming in Windows sales than 360 sales?S.Lythberg wrote:
And repurposes them into console game developers. Microsoft makes computers too, it's what they're best at, they'd support the PC gaming industry if they thought there was money to be made.Miggle wrote:
it's profitable because microsoft buys them.S.Lythberg wrote:
They wouldn't leave the market unless they thought it wasn't profitable.
360s cost more than windows
Microsoft makes 360 replacement hardware and controllers
Microsoft sells live
Most "gamers" already have windows
If microsoft wants to make money off gaming, it's a lot easier for them to do it by making the 360 control the market.
This. Because every dev then has to pay microsoft the rights to make a game for the system.Miggle wrote:
If microsoft wants to make money off gaming, it's a lot easier for them to do it by making the 360 control the market.
They'd keep both, PC's would get console ports, but there'd also be dedicated PC games, there's things a PC can do that consoles can't, but developers are weary of making PC only games because of the PC gaming community.Miggle wrote:
how would MS make more money from gaming in Windows sales than 360 sales?S.Lythberg wrote:
And repurposes them into console game developers. Microsoft makes computers too, it's what they're best at, they'd support the PC gaming industry if they thought there was money to be made.Miggle wrote:
it's profitable because microsoft buys them.
360s cost more than windows
Microsoft makes 360 replacement hardware and controllers
Microsoft sells live
Most "gamers" already have windows
If microsoft wants to make money off gaming, it's a lot easier for them to do it by making the 360 control the market.
why would devs make pc exclusives when they make more money by putting it on 360.S.Lythberg wrote:
They'd keep both, PC's would get console ports, but there'd also be dedicated PC games, there's things a PC can do that consoles can't, but developers are weary of making PC only games because of the PC gaming community.Miggle wrote:
how would MS make more money from gaming in Windows sales than 360 sales?S.Lythberg wrote:
And repurposes them into console game developers. Microsoft makes computers too, it's what they're best at, they'd support the PC gaming industry if they thought there was money to be made.
360s cost more than windows
Microsoft makes 360 replacement hardware and controllers
Microsoft sells live
Most "gamers" already have windows
If microsoft wants to make money off gaming, it's a lot easier for them to do it by making the 360 control the market.
Economically it's stupid to make a good game.
Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts and various other games prove this.Miggle wrote:
why would devs make pc exclusives when they make more money by putting it on 360.S.Lythberg wrote:
They'd keep both, PC's would get console ports, but there'd also be dedicated PC games, there's things a PC can do that consoles can't, but developers are weary of making PC only games because of the PC gaming community.Miggle wrote:
how would MS make more money from gaming in Windows sales than 360 sales?
360s cost more than windows
Microsoft makes 360 replacement hardware and controllers
Microsoft sells live
Most "gamers" already have windows
If microsoft wants to make money off gaming, it's a lot easier for them to do it by making the 360 control the market.
Economically it's stupid to make a good game.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
For optimum performance!
You can set up a dedicated server... On your machine lulz.
Here's some COOP gameplay from last night with my clan mates.
We did 4 mission, it goes up to 15 videos. I've got 4 made and 2 uploaded. So here's the two uploaded.
Keep in mind you can't hear me talking on TS.
We did 4 mission, it goes up to 15 videos. I've got 4 made and 2 uploaded. So here's the two uploaded.
Keep in mind you can't hear me talking on TS.
I nearly threw my controller at my TV when playing Powder Trail.
My entire fireteam got killed by the WZ-10 and I took the AA postion on my own. I stormed the village and got to the pilots. the EVAC point was arcoss a large open field. The pilots were on my ass, then as Dagger One told me that the chopper was 2 minutes out, the AI just stopped. They saw an APC and decided it would be a good idea to shoot at it with their MP5s. Both of them got killed and the mission failed. Whats worse was that I was on hardcore and I had to restart the mission.
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My entire fireteam got killed by the WZ-10 and I took the AA postion on my own. I stormed the village and got to the pilots. the EVAC point was arcoss a large open field. The pilots were on my ass, then as Dagger One told me that the chopper was 2 minutes out, the AI just stopped. They saw an APC and decided it would be a good idea to shoot at it with their MP5s. Both of them got killed and the mission failed. Whats worse was that I was on hardcore and I had to restart the mission.
FUUUUUUU-
ur doin it rong
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Brad, if you don´t mind:
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Flecco wrote:
ur doin it rong
bingoS.Lythberg wrote:
The PC gamers pirated, hacked, and bitched the developers right out of the market, and now they pirate, hack, and bitch to try and stop itFlecco wrote:
I'd say dedicated server support will come in a patch pretty soon. The whole release seems to smack of LETS MAKE MONEY FROM TEH CONSOLE MARKET AND NEGLECT THE PLATFORM WHICH HAS SUPPORTED US SO FAR.AussieReaper wrote:
Thank Codemasters for not having the brains to use dedicated servers. Or a cd key. Or any anti-cheat detection software.
Welcome to 1996.
except not.Red Forman wrote:
bingoS.Lythberg wrote:
The PC gamers pirated, hacked, and bitched the developers right out of the market, and now they pirate, hack, and bitch to try and stop itFlecco wrote:
I'd say dedicated server support will come in a patch pretty soon. The whole release seems to smack of LETS MAKE MONEY FROM TEH CONSOLE MARKET AND NEGLECT THE PLATFORM WHICH HAS SUPPORTED US SO FAR.
It's partly true actually. Also the fact that consoles are just simply more popular these days than PC's plays a role. You can't deny that. The reason for that popularity shouldn't really need to be explained.
I don't know why people are still surprised in this day and age that for multiplat games the console is given priority over the PC. Complain how you want it's just how shit is.
You can continue to live in denial and just think that they're out to screw you because they hate you if you want.
I don't know why people are still surprised in this day and age that for multiplat games the console is given priority over the PC. Complain how you want it's just how shit is.
You can continue to live in denial and just think that they're out to screw you because they hate you if you want.
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"The PC gamers pirated, hacked, and bitched the developers right out of the market, and now they pirate, hack, and bitch to try and stop it "
that is soo damn true. imagine you as a videogame programmer who has spent months and years making a game so you can pay the bills only for some shithead hacker to pirate the game for free. that goes the same for pirated movies. but to me there is more regulation for pirated movies than pirated games
i think competative MP gameplay is going to dwindle in the next few years. not worth it to build your talents and skills in an online game only for your hardwork to be completely undone with some shithead aimbotter.
that is soo damn true. imagine you as a videogame programmer who has spent months and years making a game so you can pay the bills only for some shithead hacker to pirate the game for free. that goes the same for pirated movies. but to me there is more regulation for pirated movies than pirated games
i think competative MP gameplay is going to dwindle in the next few years. not worth it to build your talents and skills in an online game only for your hardwork to be completely undone with some shithead aimbotter.
you're a moron.specialistx2324 wrote:
"The PC gamers pirated, hacked, and bitched the developers right out of the market, and now they pirate, hack, and bitch to try and stop it "
that is soo damn true. imagine you as a videogame programmer who has spent months and years making a game so you can pay the bills only for some shithead hacker to pirate the game for free. that goes the same for pirated movies. but to me there is more regulation for pirated movies than pirated games
i think competative MP gameplay is going to dwindle in the next few years. not worth it to build your talents and skills in an online game only for your hardwork to be completely undone with some shithead aimbotter.
Piracy is an excuse, it's not like it's anything new, and it's prevalent on the 360 as well. Devs merely use it as an excuse to go multiplatform because MS pays them to. You don't see movies only out in theatres because DVD piracy is so bad, but you would if a theatre company paid them enough to.
meh...i got a console because of all the hacks on PC. made games unplayable.
lolumad?Red Forman wrote:
meh...i got a console because of all the hacks on PC. made games unplayable.
I hit that point a few years ago when I got sick of CS hackers, so I switched to console had a blast playing sports, racing and other types of games. The problem is, once you've spent a good deal of time playing FPS's on PC, you will never have as much fun doing so on a console (at least until they come up with a better control scheme than today's controllers).Red Forman wrote:
meh...i got a console because of all the hacks on PC. made games unplayable.
