Junior_Mud
Member
+1|6888|Concord, CA
My mobo supports it...... thats about all I know, anyone care to fill me in? what the hell it is and does? I see it all over the forums. but no clue.

thanks!
tF-voodoochild
Pew Pew!
+216|7069|San Francisco

Serial ATA.
IBKCKNURASS
Corrosion Inhibitor
+172|6958
its serial ata. basically an interface for a faster hd than a reg ide.
Junior_Mud
Member
+1|6888|Concord, CA
so you have to get a sata HD then? or can you make your ide HD into a sata?
washow
Get out of MY JET!!!
+23|6933
you have to get a sata hd..

think of it as a faster hd
Lt.Maverick|Lw|
youve now just been Pwned by the Mavster
+-1|6945
Noob...lol
kessel!
Peruvian Cocaine
+261|6986|Toronto Canada
omg 1337

explain more?
Junior_Mud
Member
+1|6888|Concord, CA
hey, we all start somewhere.

is the cost basis worth the upgrade? as in, are the Sata HD the same or near cost of an IDE HD?
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6893
https://modtown.co.uk/mt/images/maxtor/200sata/modtown_net_btm.jpg
frank32
Member
+0|6875

Junior_Mud wrote:

hey, we all start somewhere.

is the cost basis worth the upgrade? as in, are the Sata HD the same or near cost of an IDE HD?
yeah its about the same price i dont see a noticeable difference running sata though
washow
Get out of MY JET!!!
+23|6933
it's about same.. sata's more expensive but only for about $20

depends on rpm tho.. 10K rpm ones are costly
AD_Kensan
Member
+7|7006
Check this. This will give you an idea.

Besides the performance a very nice thing about Serial ATA is the much thinner cables (data-cable but also the power cable).

Just my 2 cents
Herbmaster007
Member
+-4|6963

Junior_Mud wrote:

hey, we all start somewhere.

is the cost basis worth the upgrade? as in, are the Sata HD the same or near cost of an IDE HD?
There's not much in it price wise, but with SATA-II you can get an external transfer speed up to 300MB/s.  Normal SATA runs at about 150MB/s whereas the fastest ATA (IDE) drives run at about 133MB/s.  If you can go for SATA, then do it.  Just remember to press F6 and insert the SATA floppy disk when prompted whilst installing Windows. 
Lt.Maverick|Lw|
youve now just been Pwned by the Mavster
+-1|6945
The cables are lot tidyer if you have a modded case and i think satas better tbh...and the smiley meant i was jking bout the noob thing
Junior_Mud
Member
+1|6888|Concord, CA
nice, I appreciate all the feedback. I think I'm gonna go price them and see the diff, I have one 60gb now, I think the slow 7200rpm one or is the IDE slow one the 5000ish one? I dunno, I need more though.
Duramen1
Member
+0|6971|wa,usa
the other nice thing is you can run a pair of SATA drives in a RAID I or RAID 0 setup and that will make them much faster then any IDE
Junior_Mud
Member
+1|6888|Concord, CA
how much faster? best guess?
AD_Kensan
Member
+7|7006

Duramen1 wrote:

the other nice thing is you can run a pair of SATA drives in a RAID I or RAID 0 setup and that will make them much faster then any IDE
RAID has nothing to do with SATA. You can also have an IDE-Raid. The performance boost depends on the controller (real Hardware-Raid or the more common "software"-raid controler on consumer grade motherboards). Only the raid 0 would make transfers faster, raid 1 simply mirrors the disks leaving you with a more reliable system (if one harddisk would crash you still have all data on the second drive).

Another thing to the external speed: it does not really matter for us home users if the bus speed is 300 mb/sec or 150 mb/sec eventhough you would think it's twice as fast. This is just the bandwidth on the bus. The actual transferrate you get is determined by the harddisk which is much less than 300 mb/sec. I think they are a bit more than 50 mb/sec for a midrange sata harddisk. Please correct me on this if I am wrong I am just guessing.

Last edited by AD_Kensan (2006-02-09 06:11:25)

.ACB|_Cutthroat1
No place like 127.0.0.1
+76|6917|Gold Coast,QLD,Australia
omg get the new l33tz0r 150gb wd 10,000k rpm raptor, storage and speed, but cost
JonskyGBR
Member
+5|6894|England
IDE MAX TRANSFER SPEED 133MB/s

S-ATA MAX TRANSFER SPEED 150MB/s

S-ATA 2.0 MAX TRANSFER SPEED 300MB/s
Viper007Bond
Moderator Emeritus
+236|7026|Portland, OR, USA

Come now people, you should know to use Wikipedia before asking a simple question like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA
https://bf3s.com/sigs/044900892044e7fc95e599e832a086ae9bcd7efb.png
sixshot
Decepticon Geek
+50|6896|Planet Seibertron ;)
Huh?  Wikipedia?  What's that? *goes back to hiding under a rock*
SupRspi
Member
+0|6881
Sata drive performance to me does not seem to be that much better than IDE/PATA.  I'm running a 250GB Sata drive, with 2 80GB PATA drives for extra storage space.  The 150 MB/Sec transfer rate of SATA is well beyond what most current home HDD's support, but is usefull if you're using a SATA ramdrive or other solid state media.

SATA is also hot swappable, which is nice for server use as you can simply undo a rack and pull a drive w/o having to turn off power or shut down an operating system.

As for loading extra drivers in windows setup, this depends on your motherboard chipset.  My N-Force 4 chipset was happy enough with the standard drivers loaded by windows xp setup in the first place.  Since I am anal about cable management I like the sata cables though, so easy to make them nice and pretty and tied in place, without taking up lots of room or having to resort to complex origami like constructions just to hide darn IDE cables.
Kolhozik
Member
+38|6887|Phila, PA

frank32 wrote:

Junior_Mud wrote:

hey, we all start somewhere.

is the cost basis worth the upgrade? as in, are the Sata HD the same or near cost of an IDE HD?
yeah its about the same price i dont see a noticeable difference running sata though
i just recently installed 2 Maxtor 100Gb SATA drives, and let me say that there is a big difference. My BF2 maps load much faster, and data verification time is cut to about 5sec. It takes me about 20-30sec to load 64player Strike at Karkand, and my video setting are set to all high. Before when i had IDE HD it took about a minute to load the map, and 20sec to verify data. but it also depends on the system that you are running. so i would recommend SATA HD.
razz
Member
+7|6903|Australia
Get 2 and RAID 0 them lol, Preferably Raptors. Then you would notice a difference.

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