FloppY_
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+1,010|6505|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

AussieReaper wrote:

I'm not getting any drops since the update.

If I didn't have the soldier medal I'd be raging but all "omg wtf medal" in game drooling I get makes up for it.

I'm getting plenty of drops (using idle program )

But they seem to have disabled random level items now..
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SplinterStrike
Roamer
+250|6630|Eskimo land. AKA Canada.

FloppY_ wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

I'm not getting any drops since the update.

If I didn't have the soldier medal I'd be raging but all "omg wtf medal" in game drooling I get makes up for it.

I'm getting plenty of drops (using idle program )

But they seem to have disabled random level items now..
Fuck, that was the only fun I had with random drops
edlT
2+2=Vagina
+46|5618|USA
Funny how the idler program went down...the server has a max of 10,000 idlers and it was supposedly surpassed the other day lolz

I was idling for a day or two but it's gotten to the point where I get a Flare gun, huntsmen, sand man, force of nature, cloak and dagger, etc every time. I literally have gotten over 15 huntsmen and 5-6 flare guns with nothing else. I have maybe 35 hours of actually playing so I'm guessing that's why I am only getting these basic things.

It doesn't bother me much, I just thought I'd try idling to see what I could get but it seems as though it's only going to give me repeats until I actually play enough hours :S
Rod Foxx
Warblgarbl
+78|6203|Perth, Australia
I'm pretty sure the random item levels were just another way to add value to some items for when trading comes in.

Sure the level doesn't change the weapon in any way but a level 100 or level 0 item is certainly more desirable.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6872
I found that the chances of getting a hat didnt add up with how long it was supposed to take to get one so I tried it myself:

1/4 chance of getting an item every 25 minutes
if you get an item there's a 1/2000 chance it'll be a hat
so the chance of getting a hat every 25 minutes is 0.25x1/2000 = 0.000125

So let's say you use the idle program and have tf2 idling 24/7 for a week
the chance of NOT getting a hat in that week is (1-0.000125)^(24x7x2.4) = 0.951 = 95.1%
So basically if you idle for an entire week non-stop there's a 4.9% chance you'll get a hat

EDIT: I think Yoda added an extra 0 to 200, which is why the chances seemed so wrong.
In that case the chance of getting a hat every full week of playing would be 40%

Last edited by Lucien (2009-08-20 07:55:51)

https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6690
Honestly guys they're really not that important.

Just focus on being actually adequate players first, the superficial stuff can come second.

Idle program... sad sad fucks.
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FloppY_
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+1,010|6505|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

SplinterStrike wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

I'm not getting any drops since the update.

If I didn't have the soldier medal I'd be raging but all "omg wtf medal" in game drooling I get makes up for it.

I'm getting plenty of drops (using idle program )

But they seem to have disabled random level items now..
Fuck, that was the only fun I had with random drops
I never even got one, since I didnt hear about the update due to not playing TF2 for a long time
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SplinterStrike
Roamer
+250|6630|Eskimo land. AKA Canada.
Another 3 hours tacked onto TF2, and my tally was Bonk! and a sandvich.

Yay
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6489

Lucien wrote:

EDIT: I think Yoda added an extra 0 to 200, which is why the chances seemed so wrong.
In that case the chance of getting a hat every full week of playing would be 40%
I think you're right. I used to read that the chance was 0.45%, but recently i've seen the 2000 figure thrown around. So yeah. I think you're right.

@Uzique. Leaving a basic command prompt running whenever you're not playing to get more in-game items = sad fucks? If you say so. Excessive and unnecessary, perhaps, but remember. It's a command prompt that requires 0 effort and you can leave running for as long as you like because it uses almost no resources. At first I thought it was sad but came around to the thinking: Why not?

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-08-20 09:19:49)

SplinterStrike
Roamer
+250|6630|Eskimo land. AKA Canada.
Also, a new glitch seems to have come around: Server class limits dont work anymore.

Yesterday I was playing with fermtax and trying to get the clearcutter achievement. Turns out the entire round I was a spy carrying an Axe, Shotgun and flamethrower. I was also attacked by a scout who could backstab. He was still just as fast, and had a freaking knife
NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6688

SplinterStrike wrote:

Also, a new glitch seems to have come around: Server class limits dont work anymore.

Yesterday I was playing with fermtax and trying to get the clearcutter achievement. Turns out the entire round I was a spy carrying an Axe, Shotgun and flamethrower. I was also attacked by a scout who could backstab. He was still just as fast, and had a freaking knife
Been around for a while.

Happens when you get teamswitched when alive and the class you were using is full. The server changes your class, but you get to keep your weapons.
https://i.imgur.com/S9bg2.png
SplinterStrike
Roamer
+250|6630|Eskimo land. AKA Canada.
Blargh, new update is enforcing the DX8 water graphics, can't play How do I go about fixing that?
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6489
It's the same every update. It just means the server isn't updated.

Speaking of that update.

The Revolver now has the same accuracy model that the Ambassador has. As if it needed a buff. (note i am happy with the change). The Ambassador really is worthless now.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-08-21 17:16:31)

Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6687

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

It's the same every update. It just means the server isn't updated.

Speaking of that update.

The Revolver now has the same accuracy model that the Ambassador has. As if it needed a buff. (note i am happy with the change)
First shot on the Ambo should mini-crit even if not to the head.

That way on the first shot the Ambo and regular revolver are identical.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6489
Uh oh it looks like something is on the horizon.

https://i30.tinypic.com/2n21ro3.png

The defaults ARE white, the current unlocks weapons are all unique, and as such match that yellow on the chart. The developer weapons also match the screenshots I posted of the Valve weapons. A line for 'community' weapons exists in the files and lists them as items given to contributing members of the community (I'm guessing map-makers and such).

Looks like we're approaching something pretty big. So the question is. What will these 5 levels of rarity do?

Link to Steam Forums thread

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-08-22 13:45:09)

FloppY_
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+1,010|6505|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Uh oh it looks like something is on the horizon.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2n21ro3.png

The defaults ARE white, the current unlocks weapons are all unique, and as such match that yellow on the chart. The developer weapons also match the screenshots I posted of the Valve weapons. A line for 'community' weapons exists in the files and lists them as items given to contributing members of the community (I'm guessing map-makers and such).

Looks like we're approaching something pretty big. So the question is. What will these 5 levels of rarity do?

Link to Steam Forums thread
If they make it anywhere near as rare as the hats they can fuck off...

If they make the Valve items as overpowered as those in the screenshots of another thread they can fuck off x2

EDIT: I hope they know what they are doing, it is so easy to ruin the game with this kind of fundamental gameplay alteration...

EDIT2: If valve doesnt create a specific way of getting each item along with the random path, they can fuck off x3

Last edited by FloppY_ (2009-08-22 14:02:01)

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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6690
World of Fortresscraft.

Swap out the 'Rarity' levels with 'Rare', 'Unique', 'Epic', 'Legendary', 'Bind on Pickup', 'Bind on Equip' and you're there, Valve!

What a moronic and abysmal series of design decisions from their monkey-fucking-stupid design team.

And they're supposed to be working and collaborating with the high-end competitive community? None of my homies would ever endorse this needless wankery.

Last edited by Uzique (2009-08-22 14:13:51)

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edlT
2+2=Vagina
+46|5618|USA
I got a Demoman Fro today.

D:
FloppY_
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+1,010|6505|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

edlT wrote:

I got a Demoman Fro today.

D:
hax

>9000 gameplay hours and idle program running ~ 10 hours a day and still I have only managed to assemble a big lunch box and no hats Q_Q curse you valve

EDIT: I am also on the brink of "padding" the last two achievements (damn Beux & Arrows + Medic assist demo 5 in destruction). I shot a heavy and his medic once about a week after the sniper update, didnt register tho -.-

damn perfectionism..

Last edited by FloppY_ (2009-08-22 15:11:59)

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edlT
2+2=Vagina
+46|5618|USA

FloppY_ wrote:

edlT wrote:

I got a Demoman Fro today.

D:
hax

>9000 gameplay hours and idle program running ~ 10 hours a day and still I have only managed to assemble a big lunch box and no hats Q_Q curse you valve

EDIT: I am also on the brink of "padding" the last two achievements (damn Beux & Arrows + Medic assist demo 5 in destruction). I shot a heavy and his medic once about a week after the sniper update, didnt register tho -.-

damn perfectionism..
I've got about 100 total lololol

tbh if they implemented a trading system I'd give away my Demoman Fro since I rarely play it and I know a few hardcore Demo guys that want one.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6489

FloppY_ wrote:

If they make the Valve items as overpowered as those in the screenshots of another thread they can fuck off x2
Something tells me that Valve weapons are for Valve only.

I also worry about this system, it could very easily ruin the balance of the game, and hence the game itself.

I'm sure Valve have thought it through though. And i'm even more sure that if they ruin everything, they'll fix it.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6505|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

If they make the Valve items as overpowered as those in the screenshots of another thread they can fuck off x2
Something tells me that Valve weapons are for Valve only.

I also worry about this system, it could very easily ruin the balance of the game, and hence the game itself.

I'm sure Valve have thought it through though. And i'm even more sure that if they ruin everything, they'll fix it.
Or maybe (not very likely tho) this Finol, who seems to be the only spotted valve employee so far using these items, is one of the people who worked on the drop system and added a little fun of his own?

Because honestly, unless they were doing meth I can't see Valve risking the impact this sort of "hax" would have on their community... worst case scenario for them would be someone cracking/finding a bug and exploiting it, adding these items to everyone who wants it's account...

I just can't see this beeing a deliberate design choice...
if it is, I sure hope there will be some Vanilla servers coming up :S
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Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6872

Uzique wrote:

World of Fortresscraft.

Swap out the 'Rarity' levels with 'Rare', 'Unique', 'Epic', 'Legendary', 'Bind on Pickup', 'Bind on Equip' and you're there, Valve!

What a moronic and abysmal series of design decisions from their monkey-fucking-stupid design team.

And they're supposed to be working and collaborating with the high-end competitive community? None of my homies would ever endorse this needless wankery.
So some kind of potential weapon rarity system that nobody really knows anything about has been found in some files somewhere that may or may not be implemented and you conclude that TF2 is going to turn into an RPG and that Valve have suddenly stopped working on all other aspects of tf2? Nice.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6690

Lucien wrote:

Uzique wrote:

World of Fortresscraft.

Swap out the 'Rarity' levels with 'Rare', 'Unique', 'Epic', 'Legendary', 'Bind on Pickup', 'Bind on Equip' and you're there, Valve!

What a moronic and abysmal series of design decisions from their monkey-fucking-stupid design team.

And they're supposed to be working and collaborating with the high-end competitive community? None of my homies would ever endorse this needless wankery.
So some kind of potential weapon rarity system that nobody really knows anything about has been found in some files somewhere that may or may not be implemented and you conclude that TF2 is going to turn into an RPG and that Valve have suddenly stopped working on all other aspects of tf2? Nice.
I know it's all speculative. I'm just saying, on the topic of this particular hypothetical/proposed change: it's fucking retarded.

If you want to talk about "all the other aspects of TF2", be my guest.
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Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6687

Lucien wrote:

Uzique wrote:

World of Fortresscraft.

Swap out the 'Rarity' levels with 'Rare', 'Unique', 'Epic', 'Legendary', 'Bind on Pickup', 'Bind on Equip' and you're there, Valve!

What a moronic and abysmal series of design decisions from their monkey-fucking-stupid design team.

And they're supposed to be working and collaborating with the high-end competitive community? None of my homies would ever endorse this needless wankery.
So some kind of potential weapon rarity system that nobody really knows anything about has been found in some files somewhere that may or may not be implemented and you conclude that TF2 is going to turn into an RPG and that Valve have suddenly stopped working on all other aspects of tf2? Nice.
but, but, TF2 = WoW!?!?!?!!!!

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