Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7011|The Hague, Holland
I dont mind, would you be offended if I had a nick like "Stalin" or "Mussolini"?
They killed some people for wrong reasons aswell.
No problem with it at all, dont you enjoy to kill "88Hitler88"?
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|6999|AUS, Canberra

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

I dont mind, would you be offended if I had a nick like "Stalin" or "Mussolini"?
They killed some people for wrong reasons aswell.
No problem with it at all, dont you enjoy to kill "88Hitler88"?
im offended by your name as i live in a haunted house and im afraid of the dark and have to sleep with the lights on....
Sgt.Gh0st
Pump-Action Pimp
+16|7011|The Hague, Holland

the_heart_attack wrote:

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

I dont mind, would you be offended if I had a nick like "Stalin" or "Mussolini"?
They killed some people for wrong reasons aswell.
No problem with it at all, dont you enjoy to kill "88Hitler88"?
im offended by your name as i live in a haunted house and im afraid of the dark and have to sleep with the lights on....
Quick! Start another thread on BF2s with a petition to boycott me !

Im offended by yours, I might have one when im being fragged by you .
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|6999|AUS, Canberra

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

the_heart_attack wrote:

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

I dont mind, would you be offended if I had a nick like "Stalin" or "Mussolini"?
They killed some people for wrong reasons aswell.
No problem with it at all, dont you enjoy to kill "88Hitler88"?
im offended by your name as i live in a haunted house and im afraid of the dark and have to sleep with the lights on....
Quick! Start another thread on BF2s with a petition to boycott me !
now thats funny!!
CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Sgt.Gh0st wrote:

I dont mind, would you be offended if I had a nick like "Stalin" or "Mussolini"?
They killed some people for wrong reasons aswell.
No problem with it at all, dont you enjoy to kill "88Hitler88"?
In fact there are many Nichnames with mussolini in it. Just a few I found: mussolin88, mighty_mussolini, BenitoMussolini and so on. And there are several names based on Stalin. I only pointed out the german WW2 racist/nazi names since I thought these were the most reknown.  Also, as im sure youve heard the term "german-italian axis" before, i assume you know that hitler and stalin had good connections.

Also I would appreciate it if you kept this discussion on a serious level since this catgory is named "Debate and serious talk". If youre not willing to, refer to the Bf2 chatter category.

Last edited by CL_Crusader (2005-12-17 10:42:16)

CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Horseman 77 wrote:

The clan is assholes let them goof around and think anything they want,
They just want an excuse for thier failure.
So you let them goof around and do as they please and suddenly they decide to beat up one of your black friends and wound him seriously. When you have the thought to let people do as they please, you should also be aware how this people affect other peoples life.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066

CL_Crusader wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

The clan is assholes let them goof around and think anything they want,
They just want an excuse for thier failure.
So you let them goof around and do as they please and suddenly they decide to beat up one of your black friends and wound him seriously. When you have the thought to let people do as they please, you should also be aware how this people affect other peoples life.
If they break the law they pay the price just like anyone else.
If you suddenly decide to kill people with names you dont like, are we all to blame for letting you?

No we had a the laws we needed when mosses came down out of the mountains.

Enough allready

PS can you geuss what evil the " 77 " on my tag is for?
maybe it refrences a soldier who fought 60 years ago. Oh my god the horror
CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Horseman 77 wrote:

CL_Crusader wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

The clan is assholes let them goof around and think anything they want,
They just want an excuse for thier failure.
So you let them goof around and do as they please and suddenly they decide to beat up one of your black friends and wound him seriously. When you have the thought to let people do as they please, you should also be aware how this people affect other peoples life.
If they break the law they pay the price just like anyone else.
If you suddenly decide to kill people with names you dont like, are we all to blame for letting you?

No we had a the laws we needed when mosses came down out of the mountains.

Enough allready

PS can you geuss what evil the " 77 " on my tag is for?
maybe it refrences a soldier who fought 60 years ago. Oh my god the horror
Yore right with you law statement there. But as you know the law is involved AFTER the crime is comitted. Regardless if they are KKK members or nazis, these people are stupid enough to not care what punishment they recive for a crime. Ironically the 77 was made up by anti-facist christians as a reaction to 88. 77 would be GG = "Grüß Gott". Translated it would mean something like "Greetings to God".

Last edited by CL_Crusader (2005-12-17 11:17:25)

Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066
lol nice try

    1977 was the last time I got thrown from a Horse ( falling, cartwheeling or horses that jump of cliffs don't count ) all these girls where watching too, it was very embarrising. I also had a ton of dirt in my mouth when I stood up.

    I was thrown a few months ago but dont want to change my tag. I hadn't been dumped in 27 years, man I was pissed. I broke two fingers and his bridle was in pieces. so I couldn't re-mount. I took a lot of my confidense away also. I still ride the same n  talk the same. but deep inside I am really frosted by the Event.
Psycho
Member since 2005
+44|7005|Kansas, USA
I saw that Crusader agreed with a previous poster's comment that part of our cavalier attitude towards those names was due in part to cultural differences. And, I have seen many posters here stating things such as "it's a free world" or "its free speech". You are all bouncing around the major issue like a bunch of moths around a lightbulb.

I would assume that all the posters spouting off about free speech and a free world are mostly Americans (as am I). HELLO, McFLY!!! The whole world is not America. It is NOT a free world. Free spech is not a right that everyone in the world has. If it was, then we wouldn't have needed to put it into our constitution. Most Americans are not appreciative of the rights that we have because they do not know of the oppression that exists in other parts of the world. In America free speech is a tenet of our way of life. Free speech is protected - even speech that many or most would find offensive. Members of the KKK have the same right to express their views as anyone else has even though their views are deplorable.

That is why Crusader believes that these types of names should be banned, because in his country (and many others) they don't have free speech. yes, most people can say what they want about most subjects. But the government has placed restrictions on such things a nazi speech and other displays. They have lived with this their entire lives and is normal to them. And, since most good people agree that those things should be oppressed, they have no problem with it. But, it is censorship and that flies in the face with our way of life in America.

I'm not saying that one view is right or wrong. But the view are diametrically opposite - they cannot coexist. You either have free speech or you do not. There is no such thing as free speech, except XYZ.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066
what country is he from ?
CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Horseman 77 wrote:

lol nice try

    1977 was the last time I got thrown from a Horse ( falling, cartwheeling or horses that jump of cliffs don't count ) all these girls where watching too, it was very embarrising. I also had a ton of dirt in my mouth when I stood up.

    I was thrown a few months ago but dont want to change my tag. I hadn't been dumped in 27 years, man I was pissed. I broke two fingers and his bridle was in pieces. so I couldn't re-mount. I took a lot of my confidense away also. I still ride the same n  talk the same. but deep inside I am really frosted by the Event.
And now please tell me, when on your inside your deeply frosted  because you fell from a horse 27 years ago (dont get me wrong here, i also think such things can be horrible) you cant understand people who are concerned about genocides that were 60 years ago. I didnt witness the Hitler era, but those people who did thaught their children not to forget it and not to ignore. And i think this was for a good reason.
CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Horseman 77 wrote:

what country is he from ?
Im from Austria. As you can see on the left side under my nick. Also the "citizen of vienna" userbar gives some people a hint.

Last edited by CL_Crusader (2005-12-17 11:59:46)

Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066

CL_Crusader wrote:

Horseman 77 wrote:

what country is he from ?
Im from Austria. As you can see on the left side under my nick. Also the "citizen of vienna" userbar gives some people a hint.
ty never noticed that..
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066
ps get some free speech, we cant live without it. unless they all ready talked you out of your firearms in which case all bets are off.
CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Horseman 77 wrote:

unless they all ready talked you out of your firearms in which case all bets are off.
Im not quite sure what youre talking about here.
imdead
Death StatPadder
+228|6998|Human Meat Shield
Forgive and Forget.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066
If you, as  citizens of Austria where  disarmed by your Government. Then the best course of action is to do as they say.

in the U.S.A.

Our Constitution allows us 1, Free speech and 2, the right to be armed which Guarantees the former.
Snackdaddy
Member
+2|6935
....He personally promoted a Holy Crusade to reclaim the Holy Lands from the barbarian Turks. Thus, the First Crusade was launched in 1096 CE..

http://www.medievalcrusades.com/

So what your saying is that its ok for you to be a Holy Crusader and slaughter people because you believe in God ? So for those who dont believe in God your name is offensive.


Think before you speak, then noone will know how ignorant you really are.
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066

Snackdaddy wrote:

....He personally promoted a Holy Crusade to reclaim the Holy Lands from the barbarian Turks. Thus, the First Crusade was launched in 1096 CE..

http://www.medievalcrusades.com/

So what your saying is that its ok for you to be a Holy Crusader and slaughter people because you believe in God ? So for those who dont believe in God your name is offensive.


Think before you speak, then noone will know how ignorant you really are.
please dont throw the word "ignorant " around it makes people go berserk
HellHead
The fantastic Mr. Antichrist
+336|6938|Germany
After reading all of the posts here pretty intensly, I guess I have to write my own opinion down about this. Especially because I am german guy.
First of all, I have to agree to crusader that using those names is just very inappropriate, but from my point of view it´s because of another reason...
I´m pretty into the heavy metal scene and as some of you guys might know, there are a lot of Black metal guys out there, who think the Third reich and our dear friend adolf was the coolest shit ever happened on this planet.
I have to disagree.
But i´m not doing that just because of those special guys, i judging the whole story from a totally different perspective.
Any extrem political point of view, right or left, shall not be a part of the metal music businness, that´s just not what i was ment to be when it was "invented".
Heavy metal, and every other music in general, should bring people together, not tear them apart.

And now were getting close to the actuall topic here :

As I understand it, online games have the same "Job". Bringing people together, having fun with each other, don´t matter where they are from or what  color their skin is.

So using any names related to a genocide mass murderer is just wrong, because is not serving the real intension of this or every other online game out there...

Greetz to everybody I´d ever played with ( execept the noobtubers and knifesneakers ;-) )

Tony
CL_Crusader
=CL=_Crusader [M95] His leg
+3|6960|Austria

Snackdaddy wrote:

....He personally promoted a Holy Crusade to reclaim the Holy Lands from the barbarian Turks. Thus, the First Crusade was launched in 1096 CE..

http://www.medievalcrusades.com/

So what your saying is that its ok for you to be a Holy Crusader and slaughter people because you believe in God ? So for those who dont believe in God your name is offensive.


Think before you speak, then noone will know how ignorant you really are.
Read before you post.
n00b.Worx
Member
+44|6955|West Berlin!
Fallschirmjaeger88

Check it out.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders
Can i use Queen_Isabella_Of_Spain as an ingame name?
MB.nZ
Member
+86|7003|New Zealand

n00b.Worx wrote:

Fallschirmjaeger88

Check it out.

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

I don't think you can assume that they are neonazis just by looking at their aliases in an online game. I can almost guarentee you that most of them are meant as a joke. You've sort of a generalized all the people with those names. But, such is free speech. Not much you can do about it.

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