BF2S Forums Religion.

A Calvin & Hobbes quote. Nice.
I'm definatly not religeos. I heard of an interesting one. It's like this:

Okay, there is no hell, and no heaven. What happens is that at some random date in the future, everyone in the world, (dead and alive, dead people will jut pop out of the ground and be alive again,) gets to witness God coming down from the clouds I guess. Then, in an instant, he, like, clicks his fingers or something, and all those who didn't believe just *poof* vanish. the punishment is that in that split second when you witness "the glory of god," you know that it's really cool and all that, but you only get a split-second while believers get eternal glory or whatever.

Rough explination, but a freaky kind of religeon.

Some of my relatives are into the hard-core christianity which sucks. They give 10% of their household income to the church, go to church ever week, often more than once, and when it comes time to pass the collection plate, they give like $100 and over. It's one of those religeons where you raise your hands up as some guy screams at you.

Hmmm...
The real question is: Which religion(s) is right?  Which religion(s) are wrong?
That varies from person to person, their opinion, I don't really care...  What pushes my envelope is when people try to push their religion on others....
They go, "My way is right, your way is wrong, come over here or your f*ck*d..."
Ignorance is said to be bliss, but once your ignorance is placed upon another, to say that their wrong and no other way, your f*ck*d, not them, "currently"...

Yes, I believe man should respect ALL of its beliefs..
Nothing's worse when you perturb someone about their beliefs, since that's what instigates war, which devestates people, even those not involved...

Now, if someone is on the path of good, by choice, they are the best...
Instigating "goodness" becuase of a fear for damnation or a love of going to heaven is ok, but people should be good becuase they want to, not becuase a god will smite thy if thou is to follow a path of evil, and must be punished indefenitely...

wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

Doesn't Nietzsche believe that "god is dead"?  And therefore if "god is dead" we are accountable to noone?

Yes, He does, but really not in this context. =P

I would guess that I fall into being agnostic.  I have put little to no thought into religion in my life and I have no desire to.  Which is strange because much of my extended family is very religious.  But I have a hard time believing in something that can't be scientifically proven.

I am tolerant and respectful of all peaceful beliefs however, as long as you keep your beliefs to yourself and do not try to push them onto me.  Back in college, I was probably confronted twice a day by annoying people trying to push booklets into my hands.

Erkut.hv wrote:

Not concerned with what you believe, I know where I am going. The universal question... prove God exists. I say, look around, and prove He doesn't. =P

That actually is a great argument and the main reason why I say agnostic rather than atheist.  I cannot scientifically prove that God doesn't exist, but just the same, I would have to personally experience something to have my mind change.  No booklet ever will

polarbearz wrote:

wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

Doesn't Nietzsche believe that "god is dead"?  And therefore if "god is dead" we are accountable to noone?

Yes, He does, but really not in this context. =P

This is taken from uncyclopedia, one of the best sites online after this one

“God is dead.”

    - Nietzsche on God

“Nietzsche is dead.”

    - God on Nietzsche

Anyway, I'm not sure of my faith at the moment, and I probably wont be until a time that I have been tested to the extreme by a given situation, however, I often do feel as if things are often all brought into one thing, and in the end it will all be the same.
To explain further, I feel that in the end, things will all come back to where they started, and for me, I do feel that there is a higher purpose for us in life.  What it maybe however, is for us to discover.

As a christian, I believe in Jesus.  How could he by chance fill over 400 (I think that is the number) prophecies (SP is bad)  Too many people associate christianity with a list of rules.  Christianity is about compassion and following Jesus' example.  Also, christianity is one of the few religions that does not ask for humans to work toward heaven...If you think you can manage to to get to heaven by your self, well you have a bigger ego than I do.  I respect your (i.e. Buddist, agnostic, atheist) opinoins, but strongly disagree.

(Read the New Testament, especially Romans)

bah, all kinds of religion suck. Its such a turnoff

Hmmm true.

But the Placebo effect is really strong The feeling of a contact with divinity saves doesn't it?

Here's a paradox for any religion. If your God is all-power and all-seeing etc, can he hide someone so well he can't find? Or create someone so powerful he can't defeat?

Therein lies the paradox of the absolutes.

No, think of it, the very idea of Absolutes is a paradox in itself.

polarbearz wrote:

Hmmm true.

But the Placebo effect is really strong The feeling of a contact with divinity saves doesn't it?

The feeling of a contact with divinity saves just as much as one would get calories from sniffing a McD burger..uhm..so, not quite.

One can kill and go to church/temple/mosque but it doesnt mean he is "saved" until he repents.

I feel quite compelled to post this.  This is an excerpt from a letter by the late Douglas Adams:

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"There is such a thing as the burden of proof, and in the case of god, as in the case of the composition of the moon, this has shifted radically. God used to be the best explanation we’d got, and we’ve now got vastly better ones. God is no longer an explanation of anything, but has instead become something that would itself need an insurmountable amount of explaining."

A god explanation for life, the universe, etc. is not a logical or even a rational conclusion. It's just throwing up one's hands and giving up thinking.

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I stand by his reasoning (I'm an Atheist).