BF2S Forums Just came to this conclusion a few days ago after playing PoE2...

skuko wrote:

i believe you, but...have you EVER been to ukraine? have you EVER fought in green woods with the grass to your knees/waist? 

let's not argue what is way more close to the real ok? i'm from slovakia, that is next to ukraine, and i find those maps VERY VERY CLOSE to the real stuff. so if the war would take place here around in the villages, it would very much look like POE.

the term "goddamn war" is prolly not really appropriate, but on the other hand, what war is good? not one of them...

with all due respect, there is nothing else than US and arabs to you? (by you i mean the US army). i know a couple of americans, who went to slovakia to make english lecture courses, but before they arrived here, they never even knew where the hell central/eastern europe is. have you ever seen the stupid embarrasing eastern europe maps on CNN?  what makes YOU think, that i do not know what is close to the real thing?

no offence, even tho the reply does sound a bit out of line

edit: typo

Ummmmm...I was in Albania and a little time in Bosnia (very little time), and some time in Northern Africa, so you are incorrect.

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2006-09-04 08:17:28)

skuko wrote:

then accept my apology, although you have to admit, that POE maps situated in UKR are very well made...

I think the maps are awesome, I just prefer city fighting.

I think the weapon load out screens look RUBBISH, but that the rest of the game looks very nice.

THat said, I'm not really into playing it. I don't really like the vehicles, they don't feel realistic (not that they do in BF2 either, but the balance isn't right imo - they're too light in PoE(I only use ground vehicles)) and I just don't find the overall effect to be one of authenticity.

I'll carry on with Vanilla until I get really bored (no sign of that yet) and return to PoE when the mods will have tweaked here and there and made those loadout screens look better, perhaps.

poe should have been armored fury!much better and worth 10 bucks!

POE2 = Crap.
The maps are terrible, and the new weapons are worse that those of SF, god forbid any competative league pick up POE2 as a new medium.

the_outsider38 wrote:

WTF? does no one else see any thing wrong with this?

Quite obviously HW-chopper said something racist or insulting and the mod removed it and left a message telling him why he was banned.

Last edited by crimson_grunt (2006-09-05 04:04:29)

I think POE2 is a nice mod, but it is using BF2 engine, so how can you say BF2 sucks?
i think BF2 is the best pc game ever.  When you say you can't play it anymore coz of the hacks, noobs, padders, whatever, I don't understand you.  You have more than 1500 servers on everyday in BFHQ to choose, all of them are full of shit?
I think the reason you like POE2 better than BF2 is that it has no stats, and so you can play freely. 
But saying BF2 sucks is BS.
Regarding the infantry issue I think BF2 with patch 1.4 is a lot much better to play infantry.  Karkand, Sharqi and Mashtur f.i. are perfect maps for infantry.  The POE2 maps are more vehicle maps IMO.

AnarkyXtra wrote:

Just because it uses the same engine doesn't mean it's the same game. That's like saying a TVR is exactly the same as a Mustang to drive because they both use the same block, when they're actually completely different cars.

The new maps, the dynamic of how the teams work, what a difference the kits and weapons make, and the altered vehicles all make for a very different game. Saying it's just because of the lack of stats is simply not true , because you can play on an unranked BF2 server any day of the week and your stats won't matter.

Anyone who thinks that POE2 is better than BF2 is crazy.

I like PoE2 for the same reasons I loved bf1942 and DC. It feels more like their spiritual successor than BF2 does. Don't get me wrong, I love BF2, but PoE2 has me.

Noobzorz wrote:

Anyways, I like infantry combat, and fallen is not good:

Camping snipers are basically untouchable.  All the claymore fiends in BF2 vanilla whined for this, and they have it, and the only reason it's not intollerable is because you can't beat any kind of camper at all in POE2, period.

well, while it may be true that it can be difficult to spot a sniper on fallen, it is also quite realistic. Solution: Play in squads, get revived, use the smoke grens. Moreover, because of the fast-moving action, camping snipers really aren't that much of a problem on Fallen, at least according to my experience.

Noobzorz wrote:

If you die, it's a much longer walk back to the action (which was often around a corner) than Karkand or Sharqi.    I realize that you have a sprint bar as long as IS97, but it still doesn't make it fun to dash around for 30 seconds, instead of walk for 50.

really ? I usually spawn on the SL and I am right back in the action.

Noobzorz wrote:

The defending team will OWN you.  It is almost clinically impossible to take flags from a capable team in fallen because of how little time you have to spot someone who is shooting at you before you die.

hm, whenever I have played Fallen in the last couple of days, the matches were pretty even, and different results were largely due to differences in player skills / teamplay / map understanding, not because of the way
the map is set up. It was mostly a wild dash between SP's, with each team trying hard to set up a line of defense after having secured a number of spawnpoints. But there are so many ways to flank on Fallen, holding on to SP's for an extended period of time is merely impossible anyway.
But I agree that this map promotes, rather demands good teamplay, or you won't have any success. Which is exactly what I like about Fallen. And I have staged a number of successful attacks on enemy SP's. It is al about the right tactics.

Noobzorz wrote:

You have no time to react to gunfire.  If someone shoots at you, you're dead.  That's all well and good, but games like Call of Duty and FEAR (and the obvious UT/Quake combo) did this and then let you respawn 2 seconds later, spitting distance from an intense firefight.  Not POE.  When you drop dead, it'll be about a minute before you're popping heads again.

again, teamplay/playing in dquads is the solution. Also, I have come to realize that you cannot play Fallen like any map in BF2. Most people who get hit by a 7,62 cal. don't get up, that's just realistic. Which is why I move slowly, keep my head down, and - most importantly - I never try to spot the enemy and shoot back while still standing ( which is what most people do in BF2 ). Rather, when I get hit and live through it, I'll immediately go to crouch, throw a smoke and try to move away from my previous position, while either giving suppression fire or calling in reinforcements / a medic. I believe that scenario is way more realistic than the cowboy-style shoot-outs in BF2

Noobzorz wrote:

One-Hit-Kits: Everyone hates the AWP in CS.  If you don't, you haven't played CS yet.  It isn't fun.

learn, adapt, overcome. use the smokes and play in squads. teamplay ftw.

Noobzorz wrote:

Also, the lack of hand grenades is silly.  Special forces really doesn't need them.

actually, I second that. I miss my frag grens dearly, espcecially as medic. Then again, it fits perfectly into the teamplay concept of PoE2. The kits all depend on each other. limiting certain items to certain kits forces people to play together and actually chose a kit according to the needs of the squad they play in.

DaReJa wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

HW--CHOPPER wrote:

Enjoy your time off. I suggest you cool down, and not refer to 'zhe nazi's' when refering to another person.

Who ever did that to him, thanks

Heh, Dont mess wit da 'Bearz, He will Eat Ya.

bearz can go and eat -----well you know

and the mod who banned me is probely to young to remember the seingfild ep about the soup nazi


NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


might get banned again but for that

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HW--CHOPPER wrote:

DaReJa wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

Who ever did that to him, thanks

Heh, Dont mess wit da 'Bearz, He will Eat Ya.

bearz can go and eat -----well you know

and the mod who banned me is probely to young to remember the seingfild ep about the soup nazi


NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


might get banned again but for that

well, some of us actually think that fascist / Nazi references are way out of line, whatever the context. it just ain't funny dude...

if you remember that, you'll be fine.

and no, I am not banning you.