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No, the antichrist, according to the bible, is supposed to be someone who's going to falsely convince the world that he/she has saved them and thus the world would owe him/her eternal gratitude.

So, uh-uh. Not me. I believe in going to heaven through chuy. If i can follow the ten commandments of BF2s
Use the Search Function! etc., I'll go to heaven. Really.

The weird thing is, i DO believe in the existence of a God. Most-Powerful, I can live with, All-Powerful, I can't. Hawking's Big Bang theory talks about everything coming together AT THE RIGHT TIME, IN THE RIGHT QUANTITIES to create the atmosphere we now call earth. But then again:

Would you rather believe humanity picked the right card from a deck of what, 200 trillion, than to believe in the existence of a God?

all i know is god would make a kick ass sniper!!

Not only a kickass sniper, his C4 satchel charges would be deadly.

Lol. No seriously. How many believe there IS a god.

I don't believe in any god. But then I believe that religion is the source of all (well, most) of the world's ills. Certainly most wars.

Similarly, I understand that having believing in a faith is just that: putting faith in something intangible; something which has no evidence to back it up. It's just not for me, though. I like evidence. If I'm gonna worship a God, I want to know that it's there.

I am agnostic and feel I have been lucky enough to have been exposed to many ways of life and possess an open mind. While I am no historian or philosophy major, there have been countless religions through time and throughout the world – some of which claim they are the only way to “salvation”. (Those religions are the ones I am most distrustful of – they prey on fear.) It is almost like a buffet of religions, each catering to different groups, not all of them can be the "correct" or only path but each can offer something noteworthy in regards to ethics and such.

While I think religion is an important factor in society, you must keep in mind that each one was created by members of the population and reflect motives and agendas of a society and era that created them. It also appears that religion attempts to put a human face to that which is not understood about the universe, its laws and things we do not control. 

I feel in the grand scheme of things that there is a divine source but I do not feel the need to put a name or face on it. The two things I can relate to the most regarding religion are Buddhism and what I have heard from the lectures of Dr Wayne Dyer (seen on the fundraisers on PBS). (http://www.drwaynedyer.com/home/index.cfm) Specifically the lecture about the "Powers of Intention".

That’s my schmeal in a nut-shell…hope it proved “worth the read”.

Last edited by VirtuaLResistancE (2005-11-24 23:57:35)

dshak wrote:

I'm an agnostic... but just incase I prey to every god I've ever heard or read about each night. just covering my bases.

Hehe - a bit of a tangent here, but I dunno if you've ever heard of an English comedy fantasy writer called Terry Pratchett? In one of his stories he describes what the gods did to a priest who advocated what you've just said:

When the priest woke up, he found himself in a cold and foggy place, with large shadows looming above him. As they moved closer, he realised that it was the Gods themselves. They were holding big, heavy sticks. One leaned down toward him and said:

"We're going to show you how we deal with Mr Know-It-All round here"

Anyway, I digress.

My personal belief - and bear in mind I am certainly NOT rubbishing anyone else's belief - is that religion is rather like a universal 'safety blanket': something to explain away the unknown and to make the darkness that awaits after death somewhat more appealing.

People fear what they don't understand. As we've no understanding of what happens after death, we fabricate stories and faiths to make it all seem more acceptable. It's not nice knowing that when you die, there's nothing.

polarbearz wrote:

Yes, one of the oldest topics since time. I feel extremely strongly on this topic, considering I'm a Lit/Phil Major, and my muse is Nietzsche. I would like to hear from everyone, what/who do you believe in, WHY do you believe in?

I normally wouldn't contribute to a thread of this nature on this forum. Usually I like to act as childish and silly as I can around here, because everyone is so much fun all the time! This is a great place for that, but after reading that you “used to be” a Christian I wanted to drop a couple pennies on this one.

What/Who? I believe in Jesus Christ. He is my Lord and Savior.

Why? I could spend much time telling you why I believe, and in order to get my full personal perspective you would have to get to know me. But the main reason is because; to me there is no one like Jesus. I will give you a quote that I think illustrates my point better than a few of my words can.

“Well then, I will tell you.  Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I myself have founded great empires; but upon what did these creations of our genius depend?  Upon force.  Jesus alone founded His empire upon love, and to this very day millions will die for Him.... I think I understand something of human nature; and I tell you, all these were men, and I am a man:  none else is like Him; Jesus Christ was more than man.... I have inspired multitudes with such an enthusiastic devotion that they would have died for me.... but to do this it was necessary that I should be visibly present with the electric influence of my looks, my words, of my voice.  When I saw men and spoke to them, I lighted up the flame of self-devotion in their hearts.... Christ alone has succeeded in so raising the mind of man toward the unseen, that it becomes insensible to the barriers of time and space.  Across a chasm of eighteen hundred years, Jesus Christ makes a demand which is beyond all others to satisfy; He asks for that which a philosopher may seek in vain at the hands of his friends, or a father of his children, or a bride of her spouse, or a man of his brother.  He asks for the human heart; He will have it entirely to Himself.  He demands it unconditionally; and forthwith His demand is granted.  Wonderful!  In defiance of time and space, the soul of man, with all its powers and faculties, becomes an annexation to the empire of Christ.  All who sincerely believe in Him, experience that remarkable, supernatural love toward Him.  This phenomenon is accountable; it is altogether beyond the scope of man's creative powers.  Time, the great destroyer, is powerless to extinguish this sacred flame; time can neither exhaust its strength nor put a limit to its range.  This is it, which strikes me most; I have often thought of it.  This is which proves to me quite convincingly the Divinity of Jesus Christ”

- Napoleon

polarbearz wrote:

Yes, one of the oldest topics since time. I feel extremely strongly on this topic, considering I'm a Lit/Phil Major, and my muse is Nietzsche. I would like to hear from everyone, what/who do you believe in, WHY do you believe in?

See, I used to be christian, But thinking about it, there's a problem with being all-powerful. As we all know, God (in the christian concept) is all powerful, all seeing, basically omnipotent and all. But put it this way:

If he was all powerful and all seeing, could he hide someone so well that he himself could not see?
If he was all knowing and all powerful, could he create something so complicated he himself could not understand?

That's the paradox of absolute-ness.

Hell I worship chuy so its easy, a bowl of tapioca every night as a symbol of my cold, lifeless brain now that I'm hopelessly hooked on bf2s.

Lets hear it guys

Doesn't Nietzsche believe that "god is dead"?  And therefore if "god is dead" we are accountable to noone?

Ah yes, filosophie * I'll bet 20 bucks I dindt spelled that right *.
I believe in Life and Love.
Over the years I created my own philosophie wich nobody will probably understand
I wll give 1 example wich I have been pondering over for the last week.

If a villain kills somebody, he will be thrown in jail for I dunno, 20 years?
Who are we to take 20 years of somebody's life? I know he should not have killed a humanbeing but still.
What if you get sentanced for all eternity? You might aswell kill yourself since there is nothing to life for.
Life is there to be lived, we have no right to take somebody's right for living.

Thuss, the philosphie of a 15 y/o child.

I believe there is something after life but I do not believe in christianity or the bible. In my mind its on old book of misinterpreted stuff.