theDude5B
Cool member
+804|6979

fon|sl4y3r wrote:

*BF2s news ticker* *BF2s news ticker* *BF2s news ticker*

Dear fellow soldiers,
after a servercrash yesterday evening when the server was pretty populated, our new mapcycle came along with the restart. Sharqui is the first map in it.

Around half an hour waiting for players. Guess what.... Nothing.

I´ve talked to Dancer via ingame chat an decided to switch  back the "good" old Karkand. Server got around 16 player after two minutes.

So, atm, Karkand is the starting map, follwed by Oman, Sharqui and the other suggestions in the mapcycle.

Just let me know if you are not happy with this.

*BF2s news ticker* *BF2s news ticker* *BF2s news ticker*
Well Slayer i am not too happy about changing the first map back to karkand and the second to oman. The whole point of the descussion about the map cycle was so we could leave it be for about a week or two and see if it works.
Ok if the server crashes and doesnt re-populate, then we can change it back to karkand for the first map just to get some poeple on it. But I am truely getting fed up with playing karkand now because of these server crashes!

also why put Oman in there?

Last edited by theDude5B (2006-08-03 01:36:08)

B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7069|Cologne, Germany

yeah, after having thought about it a while, I think I agree with the dude on this. THe whole point of the new mapcycle was to test it a couple of days and see how people like it, maybe over the coming weekend.

Let's put on the new mapcycle and see how it goes. We can still change the startup map back to Karkand if necessary. But for the moment, we should stick to our concept.

Sharqi
Dalian Plant
Mashtuur
Daquing
Karkand
Oman
Songhua
Wake
Sharqi
Dragon Valley
Kubra
Mashtuur
Clean Sweep

also, I am getting tired of playing Oman, I like the idea that it is a little further back in te mapcycle.

Last edited by B.Schuss (2006-08-03 01:51:52)

Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|6985|Hell, p.o box 666

I will change it around 12:00!!! Lets wait and see!
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|6985|Hell, p.o box 666

B.Schuss wrote:

Let's put on the new mapcycle and see how it goes. We can still change the startup map back to Karkand if necessary. But for the moment, we should stick to our concept.

Sharqi
Dalian Plant
Mashtuur
Daquing
Karkand
Oman
Songhua
Wake
Sharqi
Dragon Valley
Kubra
Mashtuur
Clean Sweep
EDIT: Zatar Wetlands
I´ve already added Zatar to the mapcyle, right behind Clean Sweep. Why? I dunno, but so we got all maps in the cycle and also I havent played this map for ages.
theDude5B
Cool member
+804|6979

fon|sl4y3r wrote:

EDIT: Zatar Wetlands
ooo you are going to get some responses for that! i am happy to play it though because like i have said, i dont get to play it either and with teamwork it should be fun.

Last edited by theDude5B (2006-08-03 02:23:16)

De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6755|Belgium

I agree with dude and slayer, I also would like zatar, and being it the last map in the cycle, it will not be played that much. So the zatar haters shouldn't get too worried.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6856|IRELAND

i like Karkland but I am getting sick of it abit. Maybe because im a fly boy. But with all the server crashes, we always end up back their without getting to the end of the map cycle.  Dalian Plan fills a server quickly.  I love Dagan oil fields too.
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|6985|Hell, p.o box 666

I think it is a good solution to have all maps in he cycle, and those wich arent very popular in the end of it. Plus, we have the possibility to change to every map we like without server restarts and stuff.

Honestly, I dont think Zatar will come around pretty often, if we play as usual on the server or those anoying servercrashed contiune.

Also I agree with JahManRed about Dalian Plant. I´ve played some public servers on regular base before I joined BF2s (this sound clanlike) and I remember at least two of them where Dalian was the starting map.

I cant stand Karkand (only commanding) anymore
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7069|Cologne, Germany

great. let's see how people like it. We'll meet again after the weekend.
naightknifar
Served and Out
+642|6789|Southampton, UK

Sounds good, looking forward to it.
danCer
teh m0nsta
+314|6943|Germany
I have a dream...

PLANE ONLY MAPS FTW!
Slayer
---hates you
+1,137|6985|Hell, p.o box 666

Folks, please stay on topic!
danCer
teh m0nsta
+314|6943|Germany
Zatar Wetlands + Sharqi (1x) out pleeeeaaaase ....
I am getting a heart attack on those maps.
We played yesterday Zatar and it's one of the most boring maps imo.
And pls check the rotation. One has to wait several maps till he (me) gets a two seated plane.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7038|Nårvei

The two seated planes are the only reason i like Oman (as Mec)
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|6966|The Hague, Netherlands

bmb|danCer wrote:

Zatar Wetlands + Sharqi (1x) out pleeeeaaaase ....
I am getting a heart attack on those maps.
We played yesterday Zatar and it's one of the most boring maps imo.
And pls check the rotation. One has to wait several maps till he (me) gets a two seated plane.
ohh c'mon leave Sharqi in it I like it !
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Hallvard
Member
+263|6751|North Norway

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

ohh c'mon leave Sharqi in it I like it !
me2, I can't understand why so many people don't like it
superfly_cox
soup fly mod
+717|7010

okay, i spent 45 minutes alone on sharqi today getting the game started.  then s3nf and k30 joined up and we got the thing started.

anyways, Sharqi is a terrible map to start with!!!!!!  And this isn't just because its not as popular as Karkand.  The problem is that with a small number of people the map is incredibly unbalanced in the favor of MEC:

1) its impossible to defend 6 flags with 6-8 people.
2) MEC chopper can rape the crap out of the tv station leaving absolutely no chance to do anything there.  Also, USMC cannot return the favor cause MEC chopper spawns at uncap...how lame is that!?
3) MEC has extra APC

Usually these points don't make a huge difference on a half full sever but when you got 10-16 players playing it is god awful.  by the time the server fills up its already game over!!! 

my two cents,
soup fly

Last edited by superfly_cox (2006-08-09 12:40:31)

theDude5B
Cool member
+804|6979
yep i have to agree with you Mr Cox.

I was one of the ones who wanted Karkand not to be the starting map because i was getting sick of playing it. But now after a week of the map changes, i feel that while the server is crashing all the time, we should maybe swap karkand and sharqui over.

So i think

Karkand
Dalian Plant
Mashtuur
Daquing
Sharqi
Oman
Songhua
Wake
Sharqi
Dragon Valley
Kubra
Mashtuur
Clean Sweep
Zatar Wetlands
0akleaves
Member
+183|6842|Newcastle UK
Nooo, I want my oman 2nd i loved it when it was Karkand and then oman their completly differant but i love them both.
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
theDude5B
Cool member
+804|6979
my opinion is that Oman causes too many problems, and while the server is crashing all the time, the admins have a crap job when we play two rounds of karkand, two rounds of oman, then the server crashes, then two of karkand, two of oman.
Mike<Eagle23>
BF2sEU old school admin - I don't care who you are
+359|6956|Germany

superfly_cox wrote:

okay, i spent 45 minutes alone on sharqi today getting the game started.  then s3nf and k30 joined up and we got the thing started.

anyways, Sharqi is a terrible map to start with!!!!!!
Absolutely right, I tried to start a game yesterday and the day before yesterday in the afternoon, but I was not able to motivate someone to stay longer than lets say 20 minutes, the only one who did not leave after a while was Senf. I sometimes felt like an entertainer, making zombies and starting car-races (which were not very successful because of a teamkilling chopper)

In my opinion, Karkand is the best and only map to start the server. I know, some are getting bored by Karkand, but I think the situation is the following:
- Karkand is still the most popular map
- Sharqi seems to be a popular map, but superfly said why its not a good starting map
- other popular maps seem to be Mashtuur or Oman.
But when I want to play Mashtuur, all Mashtuur servers are either full or totally empty. Conclusion => similar to the situation at the moment. Oman? Well, it will be a race for the flags when there are only a few players on that large map, and not finding enemies at the field will result in baseraping.

I'm not the one to decide that, but I would set Karkand as starting map as it was before, just to make it easier to get the game started. Maybe it could be changed to Jalalabad when the patch is out, but now I believe that the given circumstances force us to either play Karkand (which I definitely prefer) or to have to wait for a long time before the server becomes crowded.

Last edited by Mike<Eagle23> (2006-08-09 13:38:52)

De_Jappe
Triarii
+432|6755|Belgium

Dude and souperfly, I agree. But you might reconsider the second sharqi map, that is very close to the first one. And I also can't wait to see road to Jalalabad, maybe that will be a great replacement of Karkand!
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7038|Nårvei

theDude5B wrote:

yep i have to agree with you Mr Cox.

I was one of the ones who wanted Karkand not to be the starting map because i was getting sick of playing it. But now after a week of the map changes, i feel that while the server is crashing all the time, we should maybe swap karkand and sharqui over.

So i think

Karkand
Dalian Plant
Mashtuur
Daquing
Sharqi
Oman
Songhua
Wake
Sharqi
Dragon Valley
Kubra
Mashtuur
Clean Sweep
Zatar Wetlands
Yupp - and drop the second Sharqi .....
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
superfly_cox
soup fly mod
+717|7010

Varegg wrote:

Yupp - and drop the second Sharqi .....
And replace it with a second Karkand!  City Maps FTW
Hallvard
Member
+263|6751|North Norway

or switch the second Sharqi and Kubra?

[edit]wtf, it's just 9!! why am I awake?? *goes back to sleep*

Last edited by kmjnhb (2006-08-10 00:06:54)

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