cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
A lot of innocent people and the infastructor of a country that is supposely not tied to the terrorist group is being destroyed. So why hasn't Bush called for a cease fire?  Locigally if Lebanon wasn't being attacked right now maybe their government would like to work with Isreal to remove the "terrorist" organization. If they want to get ride of Hezbollah so badly this is not the way to do it.

So why hasn't Isreal ever used it's power to work with the other governments around it? They have the most powerfull army in the region and if the Lebanese government really wants Hezbollah gone I'm sure they would allow Isreal to police the area.

So why Hasn't the most powerful man if the most powerful nation tried to stop the lose of inocent lives, ecpessially concidering there are 25,000 american's in Lebanon?

An administration of inaction Bush has created, leaving a load of messes for the next U.S. President.
Havazn
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+39|6923|van.ca
1) Bush has sent troops to evacuate the 25,000 living in Lebanon

2) By not calling a ceasefire, he is essentially letting Israel root up terrorists for him. Without ever getting his name involved. Smart isn't it.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
Yeah how many troops has he sent? I really don't know. But by watching the news they are just sending in helo's for 25k that's going to take everyone. 

And by not calling a ceasefire he's letting a country get distroyed and the terrorists build a bigger support base.  You think destroying a country will actually weaking the terrorist base of support? There is a diplomatic way of working together with countries to get these problems taken care of.
BlokieBF2
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+11|6881
Beleive it or not just because the President asks for something its not always going to happen
[1stSSF]=Nuka=
Banned
+23|6979|PDX Metro Area, OR, US, SOL
Your point is ill-informed, sir. Hezbollah is sanctioned by the Lebanese government and has participated IN the government (currently has ~18% of the seats in Parliment).

Oh, and their abduction of Israeli soldiers is NOT a new tactic and has been attempted several times, without success. Now that they've had success, it's highly likely that they'll escalate.

Does any of this mean that Israel's response is appropriate? No. I'm refuting your thesis that Hezbollah is unsupported by the Lebanese government.

BOTH sides are wrong (go figure in a Middle East conflict) and BOTH sides have been sanctioned by the UN for their actions...

There are no heroes here, nor are there any martyrs...
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
I know that if the president asks for something it's not going to happen, but in the eyes of a people we are trying to get to welcome our way life it would be a very positive thing for the president to call for a cease fire. Not say well your civilians are getting killed "Isreal has a right to defend itself" sorry.

I know Hezbollah sits in the cabinant for the Lebanese government but Allegedly they are saying majority of the funding for the terrorist faction of it comes from "Iran and syria".  And Allegedly Lebanon want's help removing Hezbollah from there borders. 

It's not Ill-Informed it's what they're saying in the news(the Isreal american embassador and the such). I've heard said so many times "What we're doing here is going to make Lebanon stronger in the future and they will thank use for uprooting the Hezbollah terrorist". So naaa naa naaa
topthrill05
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+125|6807|Rochester NY USA
But still Israel is pissed. Nothing will stop them.

It's a little like a baby that is crying. If trying to him down doesn't work, you let the baby just cry. Eventually they will stop.

Sadly if Israel doesn't stop, there is going to be alot of tears.

Last edited by topthrill05 (2006-07-17 08:44:45)

luckeydogg
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+35|6758|C:/system32/pimp.exe
Who cares?
topthrill05
Member
+125|6807|Rochester NY USA
Not you. But those posting on this thread do.

How about you shut-up, leave and go play in traffic.
luckeydogg
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+35|6758|C:/system32/pimp.exe
How about you go fuck yourself!  Why should we butt in!  I have always been a Bush supporter, but he is thinning out our troops right & left for shit that has nothing to do w/ us!  This so-called terrorist shit that is going on over there is part of their freaking holy war...  Let them kill themselves off...
topthrill05
Member
+125|6807|Rochester NY USA
You know whats funny? I like Bush and I don't want us to get involved. I would love to know where I said we should butt in. Can you tell me? I didn't think so.

Oh try growing up or learning how to express your self better. "Go fuck your self" is hardly appropriate.

Someone feels stupid. I can't wait to hear your response.
Anfidurl
Use the bumper, that's what its for!
+103|6822|Lexington, Kentucky
Why Bush likely hasn't called a Cease-fire:
A) Because it would likely not work
B) Because he has ties to high-level Arabs who hate Isreal
C) Isreal would whine and moan about the rockets breaking the cease fire (as you know H won't listen)
Lisik
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+74|6730|Israel
Stops? Are u dumb ppl? How much more jewish lives needs to show u that arabs not about to bring peace to this world?
chittydog
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+586|7064|Kubra, Damn it!

topthrill05 wrote:

How about you shut-up, leave and go play in traffic.
Good call, +1 for you.
topthrill05
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+125|6807|Rochester NY USA

Lisik wrote:

Stops? Are u dumb ppl? How much more jewish lives needs to show u that arabs not about to bring peace to this world?
Hey do what you would like. Just watch out.

The US won't be there when you piss off to many countries.
luckeydogg
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+35|6758|C:/system32/pimp.exe
You wanna hear my response...  I'm sick of seeing our soldiers die for shit that has nothing to do w/ them..  We go over to Iraq for what, to liberate the country?  Whoo hoo...  We are losing soldiers everyday because we helped them...  Bush said it himself, "Mission Complete."  But we still lose soldiers.  Soldiers I served with.  That is why I get sick of hearing about how we should go into other countries & stick our noses where they dont belong.
topthrill05
Member
+125|6807|Rochester NY USA
Ok I can see what you are saying. But where did I say we should butt in? I didn't, so the "Go fuck yourself" was hardly necessary considering that agree with your views.
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|7000|AUS, Canberra
because...what the fuck has it got to do with bush?

its much like me trying to call for and end of fighting between the bloods and crips.
voltage
Member
+46|7069|Sweden
I just saw on the news a small clip of Bush being recorded unaware, commenting the current situation in the ME.

edit: he said something like this "...they need to do is to get syria get Hizbolla to stop doing this shit...".

Last edited by voltage (2006-07-17 09:17:16)

luckeydogg
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topthrill05 wrote:

How about you shut-up, leave and go play in traffic.
Thats where the go fuck yourself came from...  I get pissed easy... 
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6925|NJ
I don't belive Bush calling a Cease fire would be going into the country?? I'm confused by what your trying to get across luckeydogg.

Isreal is by far not a keeper of the peace. All they are doing right now is esculating a bad situation, under the giese of self defense. If it was done more diplomatic they might have been able to police lebanon without destroying it.

To update for a few other comments.

It has to do with Bush and the rest of the world because right now especially with us in Iraq it would show careing toward the Arab world.  When we're trying to stabilize an area you actually have to have a stance on making the area stable.

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2006-07-17 09:14:07)

BlokieBF2
Member
+11|6881
for once I think the worlds higher powers (US, Britain etc) should stay the hell away from this, let them fight it out amongst themselves and for once and all be done with the issue
If the US steps in they will only piss off one of the combatants and in so doing cause more ill will towards themselves
topthrill05
Member
+125|6807|Rochester NY USA
Well cpt.fass. Israel has tried almost everything. None of it has ever worked, so now they are making them "Pay".

Last edited by topthrill05 (2006-07-17 09:16:47)

voltage
Member
+46|7069|Sweden
The Bush clips available at http://news.bbc.co.uk/ .
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6856
In the open mike recording of Bush talking to Tony Blair about the Mid-East crisis.  He says if Hezbolla would stop this shit it would all get settled.  He actually says shit.  LMFAO....

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