atlvolunteer wrote:
Vidi wrote:
I hate Gearge W. with a passion. I have nothing but contempt for him.
The election of 2000 was stolen from Gore ( Not that I thought he was a much better choice, just the lesser of two evils really ) I believe that Bush intended to invade Iraq BEFORE 9/11 and 9/11 only POSTPONED the war with Iraq. People are always claiming that Iraq had something to do with 9/11 but every declassified CIA report says that just isnt the case. If one looks at the Project for the new american century. You can see their agenda, It's like reading Mein Kampf in 1930. The far right has a very specific agenda and they are following their plan exactly. They even state that their plans may depend on a "new pearl harbor" and that was Sept of 2000 a full year before 9/11.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
Add to that the Bush family ties with Saudi Oil, the Bin Ladens, and the Carlyle Group
http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html
and I can not imagine a more fertile enviorment for complete corruption. And that is exactly what we have got.
Bush is a man that campaign on personal responsibilty and accountability but refused to answer the questions about his cocaine arrest, his alcohol abuse or even his six month long AWOL.
I hate W.
Dude, you probably believed every word of "Fahrenheit 9/11", too...
I believe the parts of it I can verify through legit news sources ( usually outside our country )
Let's face facts, the Bush administration has lied to us from the beginning. Look at the CIA reports that Bush was quoting but said was classified when we went into Iraq. He kept saying they had weapons of mass destruction and the CIA reports proved it.
And yet when the CIA, declassified their reports we find that Bush flat out lied to us. The reports themselves said that Iraq was NOT a threat to the US and there was NO evidence that they had ANY WMD's. The very same reports Bush claimed were our evidence to go to Iraq, told him NOT to go.
So what does he do? He changes his story. Oh we didnt go to Iraq because of WMD's, we went to topple an oppressive dictator who was killing his own people. Well, while that IS true, Saddam did all thjose things, he did so while the US was funding him.
And as far as the Taliban?
God, doesn't ANYONE have a memory??? These are the people WE funded against the Soviet Union. And who fought on the side of the Soviets during their Afghan war? The Northern Alliance. And who did we give power to once we took over Afghaninstan? The Northern Alliance!
And the election of 2000?
check the facts:
Foxnews ( PDF file ) first to call the election for Bush:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/02/02/cnn.report/cnn.pdf
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/media/election2000/election_night.html
Here's CBS news confirming that Ellis is the COUSIN of W.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/11/14/politics/main249357.shtml
And a link to a PDF that counted the votes that were strangely disqualified the VAST MAJORITY of which went to Gore, not Bush:
http://www.aei.org/docLib/20040526_KeatingPaper.pdf
EVEN the recounts that were supposed to happen were only partially completed leaving out the "blacker" areas which voted predominately Democrat.
What was the final vote count WITHOUT counting the districts that would have had the MAJORITY for Gore?
Bush: 2,912,790
Gore: 2,912,253
A difference of 537 votes!!!
And who was in charge of the counting??? Katherine Harris. And who might she be?
Take a look at Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris
And what did she do?
She refused to allow the recounts to continue ( or rather FINISH )
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/13/got.here/index.html
Why? Because she was the Co-CHAIRWOMAN of the elect George W. campaign in Florida.
And look at this report on all the iirugularities of the 2000 Florida Election:
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/main.htm
Pay partiular attention to to the first hand accounts from people who testified at the hearings.
here's just some of the things the report lists:
Key officials anticipated before Election Day, that there would be an increase in levels of voter turnout based upon new voter registration figures, but did not ensure that the precincts in all communities received adequate resources to meet their needs;
· At least one unauthorized law enforcement checkpoint was set up on Election Day resulting in complaints that were investigated by the Florida Highway Patrol and the Florida Attorney General;
· Non-felons were removed from voter registration rolls based upon unreliable information collected in connection with sweeping, state sponsored felony purge policies;
· Many African Americans did not cast ballots because they were assigned to polling sites that did not have adequate resources to confirm voting eligibility status;
· College students and others submitted voter registration applications on a timely basis to persons and agencies responsible for transmitting the applications to the proper officials, but in many instances these applications were not processed in a timely or proper manner under the National Voter Registration Act (“motor-voter law”);
· Many Jewish and elderly voters received defective and complicated ballots that may have produced “overvotes” and “undervotes;”
· Some polling places were closed early and some polling places were moved without notice;
· Old and defective election equipment was found in poor precincts;
· Many Haitian Americans and Puerto Rican voters were not provided language assistance when required and requested;
· Persons with disabilities faced accessibility difficulties at certain polling sites;
· Too few poll workers were adequately trained and too few funds were committed to voter education activities
And Florida wasn't the only place these things occured. Most people forget Wisconsin, Iowa ( both went to Gore...barely ) and New Hampshire, Missouri and Ohio ( which went for Bush )
I could go on and on and on. But just ONCE, I'd like to see some Bush supports provide evidence that the election WASN'T a FRAUD.
It seems everytime there's a debate on the subject of Bush, one side throws out the evidence and claims Michael Moore leftist views negate the facts. That's like the Democrats saying ( and to their eternal discredit, they have said it ) that because Rush Limbuagh presented the fact it must be fiction.
It is the extremism on both sides that is tearing this country apart and down. It is the only when those with a more Centrist view are in power that it can be saved. The Republicans are NOT always wrong. The Democrats are NOT always right. We need leaders who can see this and lead accordingly.
