Gets the popcorn and awaits Bubbalo's response.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
lol
Spetz could end that conflict in like a week lol
Send Spetznas to delete the insurgents, AK 101, AK-47 VS AK 101, AK-47! Im totally agree if the russians moves into Iraq when the insurgents killed 4 diplomat-workers from Russia. WTF!!!?!? when u kill or injure ppl from a embassy u want war. and i think its not safe to fuck with Russia. Some Kalinka Vodka and some AK shots, then Iraq's insurgents in GONE forever
Killing Embassy workers is almost an act of war. Russia is within it's rights to retaliate against whoever they deem to be responsible for the kilings.
If the US military was allowed to fight the war instead of keep the peace you would see zero insurgent activity, the truth is, we're not there to kill Iraqis but a lot of people cant see that
Nope you can fuck with US but you can't fuck with RUSSIA it's been posted previously in history books
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UK = best trainedBubbalo wrote:
I got negative karma for this because the US has the best military training in the world, apparently. WTF? By definition, that means Russians have worse training. Although, if it's going to come up, yes I believe that US has worse training than, say, Britain, which makes sense. Britain is a small nation and relies on a small, elite force, whereas the US is more concerned with numbers and technology. But sure, whatever........Bubbalo wrote:
'Cos that'd be just great
Unless they're only sending their elite, I can't see how it can be a good thing. Last I heard Russian training is worse than American, and I'll bet that their ROE will be more lax as well.
US = best equipped
Meh??
Your posts are sooo amusing! Well, in my opinion, those who are responsible will be found secretly, and secretly killed. No large-scale operation for almost sure, because Russia doesn't want more problems with Islamic countries.
Besides, even though you guys welcome us to enter the conflict the US started "to settle it down, cause them Russkies know how to deal with insurgents", and even if our government and Putin in particular would wish to do just that, which I doubt 100%, US would not like 3rd party military force to be present in the "new and democratic Iraq" America created.
Besides, even though you guys welcome us to enter the conflict the US started "to settle it down, cause them Russkies know how to deal with insurgents", and even if our government and Putin in particular would wish to do just that, which I doubt 100%, US would not like 3rd party military force to be present in the "new and democratic Iraq" America created.
I respectfully disagree. Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan was catostrophe. 20,000 dead reds and the birth of Al-Qaeda. Dont seem like they did a bang up job there.Wasder wrote:
cause them Russkies know how to deal with insurgents",
I posted it in "", because I did not mean that Russia is ultimate expert in fighting insurgents, in fact, the shit in Chechnya is not 100% over yet. I only said so basing on the other people's posts, stating that "Some Kalinka Vodka and some AK shots, then Iraq's insurgents in GONE forever".
Those Russians got killed by an US-supported army by the way..GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I respectfully disagree. Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan was catostrophe. 20,000 dead reds and the birth of Al-Qaeda. Dont seem like they did a bang up job there.
I would nt say that. You think marginal weapons aid and cia clandestine operations were behind the soviet wthdrawal? not very significant in my opinion. Tell me, where were the weapons the mujahedeen used for the majority of their aresnal manufactured? The United States has no RPG or Kalishnakov factories. I know about the stingers, but do you really think 200 american surface-to-air shoulder fired missles were responsible for making or breaking the war. no sir.
side note: I got an old copy of soldier of fortune magazine where they offer a huge monetary reward to any Soviet pilot that lands his MiG 29 in turkey or other american or allied airspace, just thought that was interesting. There were no takers.
side note: I got an old copy of soldier of fortune magazine where they offer a huge monetary reward to any Soviet pilot that lands his MiG 29 in turkey or other american or allied airspace, just thought that was interesting. There were no takers.
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agree, a few weapons wouldnt let the soviets retreat... there was little aid from the american forces.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I would nt say that. You think marginal weapons aid and cia clandestine operations were behind the soviet wthdrawal? not very significant in my opinion. Tell me, where were the weapons the mujahedeen used for the majority of their aresnal manufactured? The United States has no RPG or Kalishnakov factories. I know about the stingers, but do you really think 200 american surface-to-air shoulder fired missles were responsible for making or breaking the war. no sir.
side note: I got an old copy of soldier of fortune magazine where they offer a huge monetary reward to any Soviet pilot that lands his MiG 29 in turkey or other american or allied airspace, just thought that was interesting. There were no takers.
Didn't say; provided weapons or troops.. just supported..GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I would nt say that. You think marginal weapons aid and cia clandestine operations were behind the soviet wthdrawal? not very significant in my opinion. Tell me, where were the weapons the mujahedeen used for the majority of their aresnal manufactured? The United States has no RPG or Kalishnakov factories. I know about the stingers, but do you really think 200 american surface-to-air shoulder fired missles were responsible for making or breaking the war. no sir.
side note: I got an old copy of soldier of fortune magazine where they offer a huge monetary reward to any Soviet pilot that lands his MiG 29 in turkey or other american or allied airspace, just thought that was interesting. There were no takers.
But hey, maybe this is a story like; we'll never know. Just like other things involving US, Russia, Middle East and politics.
Those stringers made the Russians change there flight plans over Afghanistan, I'm sure that affected the conflict! And besides the US lost twice as much men in Vietnam than the Russians did in Afghanistan and the tactics there enemies fought with were quiet similar, hit and run.
Russia has assassinated terrorists in foreign countries befor, two SVR agents where arrested in Yemen last year after killing a Chechen terrorist leader in a car bomb. They have the same rights as America to pursue terrorists so I dont see the problem, its not like there will be a Russian infantry division roaming Baghdad!
Just my opinion!
Russia has assassinated terrorists in foreign countries befor, two SVR agents where arrested in Yemen last year after killing a Chechen terrorist leader in a car bomb. They have the same rights as America to pursue terrorists so I dont see the problem, its not like there will be a Russian infantry division roaming Baghdad!
Just my opinion!
to paraphrase a political analyst i heard some time ago, can't remember who:
Pop quiz! what two countries stalled the coalition's enforcement of the gulf war surrender treaty for 6 months
answer: France and Russia
Pop quiz! what two countries were directly implicated as receiving kick-backs from the oil-for food program by documents in Saddam's own briefcase
answer: France and Russia
Pop quiz! what two countries stalled the coalition's enforcement of the gulf war surrender treaty for 6 months
answer: France and Russia
Pop quiz! what two countries were directly implicated as receiving kick-backs from the oil-for food program by documents in Saddam's own briefcase
answer: France and Russia
you cant compare afghanistan resistance to the viet cong. what huge army did the afghani's have backing them up?Jepeto87 wrote:
Those stringers made the Russians change there flight plans over Afghanistan, I'm sure that affected the conflict! And besides the US lost twice as much men in Vietnam than the Russians did in Afghanistan and the tactics there enemies fought with were quiet similar, hit and run.
Russia has assassinated terrorists in foreign countries befor, two SVR agents where arrested in Yemen last year after killing a Chechen terrorist leader in a car bomb. They have the same rights as America to pursue terrorists so I dont see the problem, its not like there will be a Russian infantry division roaming Baghdad!
Just my opinion!
the nva and the vc were two separate entities working in unison to achieve the same goal. north vietnam had an airforce which had 1 or 2 ace pilots (maybe more?). afghanis 0 air force. nope, the two dont hold too many similarities
It's interesting that everyone's gone on about these, when the only interesting one is the second. 3 of the other 4 are about joint training, which Russia has also done with the US, and the last one is from Pravda. If you know where the roots of Pravda lie, you know it ain't too trustworthy. The second, however, is very interesting. Even so, given that China didn't enter Iraq so far as I know, my point still stands.
I doubt any1 else could have gotten better results in those situations.JahManRed wrote:
After seeing the school and Theater sieges I think the ruskies would make matters worse.
russia is die hard cauz they don't give a fuck about human lives.
Yeah, but that is they same BS they said before when those Chechyn's took over their school house and all those teachers and kids were killed. They said "the gloves were coming off" and they were going to hunt down and kill those responsible.......still waiting......Bernadictus wrote:
Today I read in one of our local newspapers, that President Puttin has ordered his special services to "obliterate" the insurgents that have killed 4 of Russia's diplomats.
How do you feel about Russia entering the Iraq conflict in this war?
Should they have entered earlier to support their allies?
Things wen't OK for them till we gave the rednecks of the Islamic world some fire and forget Stingers.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I respectfully disagree. Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan was catostrophe. 20,000 dead reds and the birth of Al-Qaeda. Dont seem like they did a bang up job there.
And the birth of Al-Qaeda is bad for them how?GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
I respectfully disagree. Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan was catostrophe. 20,000 dead reds and the birth of Al-Qaeda.