BF2S Forums Opinions of President Bush, now and then...

dshak wrote:

It is BECAUSE I am a liberal that I support the second Iraqi ware, and here's why - I personally (note the word personally, not imposing my beliefs on anyone else) feel that if there is genocide taking place and you have the power to stop it (you being the U.S. in this case because other countries lack the ability, or in some cases the balls), but you don't do anything, you are as guilty as the one committing the crime.

Amen to that brother.

The ID thread is in the Current Events, incase I didn't mention that.

dshak wrote:

Finally, he brought it on himself, if hadn't been such a bitch and had cooperated with the UN in the first damn place Bush would never have had a case, full of holes or not, for the action. At least not the case he presented.

Dshak, I think this is why I like you even though you are liberal.  I've been telling people this ever since the war started and no one seems to remember.  I also agree that Bush should be using Genocide as the reason for the war, it is the reason why I support it, along with the fact that if we didn't do something they would have attacked us eventually.  I believe in being proactive to protect a country, not reactive.

Also, I don't think I mentioned anything about the New Zealander.  I had no way of nowing whether or not he had ever been to Iraq and I don't like to talk bad about people that risk their lives for thier country.  I would even go as far as to respect members of the French army.  Just because their leader is a sissy doesn't mean that those men wouldn't risk their lives if he asked them to.

PS - I would also like to see you, dshak, weigh in on the ID discussion.

Last edited by audioboxer217 (2005-11-10 05:45:14)

I totally agree Kaiser.  Although I do think that abortion is still a rather large issue, you are right in that all that really matters in the end is that we get the economy back on its feet.  I also agree that, contrary to some of the opinions on this forum, tax cuts are a great way to get people to put more money into the economy so that it can get rolling again.  Sadl, taxes are not what is keeping Americans from spending, it's the outrageous gas prices (because we all know the war in Iraq was just to steal their oil and drop the prices here in America) that are just now going back to normal.  Hopefully, the price of oil will continue to drop so that we can spend our money on things that help the economy much more.

I am glad that you decided to join in on our discussion.

I voted for him twice....I don't agree with everything he does, but who would agree with anyone 100%. I believe Iraq is a good idea.....but it's tougher than we thought..... There are many reasons why we should of gone into Iraq. If we get through the bad times there the rewards to the world will be TEN fold. I'm sick of some people saying the war was for oil, or to finish family business. That he lied to the public.. We've all known for years that Iraq had wmd. Clinton said it, Kerry said it , FAT ASS Kennedy said it , the whole world said it!!!!! where they went is the question that we may never know. We need to finish the job. GOD, ALLAH, BUDDAH- you get my point- BLESS AMERICA AND THE WORLD.

CaptainFoley wrote:

what do you really think hes doing
hes being president for the money
i meen god damn
my mom and dad make more then him
what other fucking reason would he be president
and i support him on the war in iraq
my uncle knows something
not saying
and i shouldnt of said that
get the idea
what im saying is that as far as i can tell my uncle hasnt said anything but i think he
never mind
i shouldnt say it

dude, right on, you like totally just put down some words, but didn't say anything, its like magic man, its like FUckin magic, whaaaa!

pass the joint over her man, I need some of that SHIT to know wtf is going on

after that i just want to hit my head on a wall

Bush is a terrible orator.....

BladeRunner wrote:

Put Jello Biafra on on the throne, dudes. He'd be great

You is my kinda guy!

the last Real word

Bush is a Leader, Tough minded, Smart, Doesn't care What Madonna, the Dixie Chicks or George Cloony Think and Doesn't Seek their  Approval or the approval of those who would take there cues from them.
  Definitely not a Jerk Off, weather Vane Politico Type who Ducked the Hard Issue and Put off the Hard tasks  ( Responses to WTC 93, 2 Embassy Bombings, Pan Am Flight 007, DD USS Cole ETC )

note

  We Attacked Germany. after    Japan   attacked us
and we Wrecked and laid low Germany long Before we went after Japan with Real Effort.
   If We Ducked out of WWII after we lost 2000 men we wouldn't have made it Through the Pearl Harbor attack Without Quitting and Europe Would be Enslaved as would Asia. If We Quit WWII after 2 years We wouldn't have landed in France and the Death camps would have Finished their purpose ( Ironically we would not be fighting now ). It took 8 EIGHT Years to put Germany back together after the Fighting ( and GERMANS live there ). The Last Japanese Hold out ( we know of ) Surrendered in 1972.

We the public Didn't Know of the Broken codes and Intelligence  Windfalls The Armed Services had until 1969
And some stuff is still classified.  the Same People who trash Bush all the Time Mocked Reagan For calling The Former Soviet Union an Evil Empire and now that Russia has opened There Documents for the Worlds inspection We all know They Were an Evil "Scum bag" Empire. Who killed more Jews than hitler.

History will bear him out as it Buried clinton's Legacy

j5f5ff " and burried prosperity as well"

          Ignoring attacks and avoiding Hard decisions Has proved much more Costly in Property and LIVES.
It created this mess you speak of. Wars are costly. Avoiding them is can be costlier. In New York City our opinions on WAR have to be Reality Based. We don't have the luxury anymore of cute little slogans as Blinder.

       In case you havn't noticed, they havn't been back.
they would do well to wait for another Jerk off to take office

I gotta agree with you on that one dshak.  As you know I support Bush, but I would have much rather had McCain as a choice.  I also agree with Virtual Resistance, as do many people, that politicians in general seem to be more and more selfish but so are most of the American poeple.  I'll admit that I can sometimes be quite selfish, which is why I will never run for any public position.

Sadly, there is not much we can do about the problems with politicians.  All we can do is choose the best person running, support that person fully, and hope for the best.

I back up my point, well, Bush does every time he opens his mouth. Just watch the tape of the recent summit press conference with the president of Argentina, as I said before, its like watching re-runs of he-haw. The Argentine president just stood there dumbfounded that the guy speaking was the so called leader of the free word.

Please don't throw grades at me to make your point, everone in here knows it doesn't take a brilliant person to get good grades. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met had a 4.0 GPA, and it also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how guys like GW get into places like Yale. I work in the college environment, infact there are kids on my team that are potentially legally retarded yet still get decent grades. (sadly, I'm only half joking about that)

Also, can't really use Clinton or Kerry against me on this one either, because I never said he wasn't smart by comparison, you did, and I never voted for either one of those guys either.

Military service ALWAYS should be an issue in my mind, which is one of my anti-clinton points. You can call him an "Airforce NG Interceptor pilot" all you want, but the closest he ever came to combat was watching it on the evening news. I think if a guy saw one minute in country that qualifies him.

my position on this applies to ALL candidates, liberal or conservative - UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN SHOT AT YOURSELF YOU SHOULD'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEND OTHER PEOPLE TO GET SHOT AT. PERIOD.

Mccain was a great republican candidate who couldn't win the primary because he was against big money, instead big money, the POSTER CHILD of big money won the primary. it was a shame, because Mccain would have been the best of ALL the candidates, but gasp... he actually took a firm stance on an unpopular and controversial issue. What a moron, can't win elections that way can you!?!

Bush is not a complete moron, perhaps somewhere between idiot and moron... but the idea of calling him smart, nice try. You are right, media is very biased, but he makes it kind of easy. Just because someone is surrounded by smart people doesn't make them smart, and its a little too obvious when he stops reading the notecards his staff puts in his pocket and does a little improv... too many bushisms to quote.

This thread is asking what people think of bush, not the bush administration. my opinions on those two have pretty wide gap.

Last edited by dshak (2005-11-12 17:07:41)