Poll

Who was responsible for the death of Jesus?

The Romans15%15% - 24
The Jews25%25% - 40
Himself16%16% - 26
Other12%12% - 20
Go Fuck Yourself29%29% - 47
Total: 157
CameronPoe
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So who was responsible? Discuss...
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
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Well it's true.  If he didn't go around going "I am Jesus, the son of God!" then there wouldn't have been any problems.  Do you see me dead?  No, you don't, and you know why?  Because I don't claim to be the son of God.
herrr_smity
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in the story it was the jews
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6901|Colorado
Well you could atribute the romans, jews & himself had something to do with it.
He was on a mission to die for our sins even though he didn't want to die, the jews saw the love the people had for him & were afraid of losing power, then they complained to the romans.
Romans crucified him but the life left him before he was peirced with the spear.
Lets not forget about judas either...

According to the bible atleast.
Erwin_Rommel188
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All of the above and then some...
Stubbee
Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts
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The only 'resource' with which we would be able to discuss this is the bible. A document that has been mistranslated and/or edited either accidentally or on purpose (gasp). Don't believe mtry Google and read expert opinions.
What a useless topic. Go find a divinity/bible forum at some religious site.
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ATG
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A Really interesting book that deals with this history is called the Hiram Key.
They dealt with the history of the Freemasons, which wouldn't have happened without Jesus.
THA
im a fucking .....well not now
+609|6999|AUS, Canberra
i think his bad attitude got himself killed.

you know the old saying

attitude equals altitude
Big McLargehuge
Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
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Well according to The passion of the Christ it was the Romans that nailed him to the cross.
Shmizmar
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What the fuck...I'm Jewish!!

That's bullshit...And even if "my people" did kill Christ..Who gives a shit now!!?
SGT_Dicklewicz
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I agree the Romans killed him, but the Jews worked the system to have him killed, because he claimed to be the son of God which pretty much pissed off anyone who didn't follow him.
This of course is all my take on it.

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ATG
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Big McLargehuge wrote:

Well according to The passion of the Christ it was the Romans that nailed him to the cross.
According to Micheal Moore george Bush is the anti-christ. Please don't tell me your historical knowledge is gleaned from Mel Gibson movies, or movies period.
Big McLargehuge
Another Saturday night and I ain't got nobody
+259|6832|Philadelphia, PA

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

Big McLargehuge wrote:

Well according to The passion of the Christ it was the Romans that nailed him to the cross.
According to Micheal Moore george Bush is the anti-christ. Please don't tell me your historical knowledge is gleaned from Mel Gibson movies, or movies period.
Well... isn't The Passion of the Christ supposed to be about what happened to Jesus according to the Bible?

I'm not religious so I never read the bible.
TehSeraphim
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KK, follow me here - it might get a little murky.

God ---> knows everything ---> gives people free will ---> also wtfpwns people on a daily basis back then ---> let's men kill Jesus.

It was God's fault.

Oh, also, running around saying I'm the son of God probably didn't help his situation.  I saw a guy in Venice Beach, CA doing the same thing and I'm sure that if he gathered enough support around his cause someone would off him.  Just a thought.
Spark
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Jews - the clever bitches knew that Pilate was in a tight spot and forced him into it.
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Shmizmar wrote:

What the fuck...I'm Jewish!!

That's bullshit...And even if "my people" did kill Christ..Who gives a shit now!!?
Well, according to the bible, Jewish people reported Jesus to the Romans. No one really cares now, that's just what's in the bible.

Last edited by Homeschtar (2006-06-25 00:07:16)

easy-skanking
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Shmizmar wrote:

What the fuck...I'm Jewish!!?

That's bullshit...
don't sound so shocked
Cybargs
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the romans killed him. according to the bible judas set him up. and according to the gospel of judas, jesus wants judas to set him up so that jesus's spirit can be "free"
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spastic bullet
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Yeah, there's too much Back To The Future spacetime-continuum shit going on with this story for it to be coherent.  God knows what everybody's going to do in advance, tells Jesus, who lets slip to Peter about the cock crowing, etc.

Idea for BTTF 4:
Michael J. Fox goes back in time with the Governator to save Jesus from God, who is actually OMGWTF Skynet, in league with Alex Winter from Bill and Ted, to prevent Keanu from ever becoming...  Teh Win.

Great Scott!!!!
CameronPoe
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People - the bible is not a reliable historical document. It was written with a political agenda in mind (Emperor Constantines). Josephus was a historian of the time and documents found at Nag Hammadi and Qumran are more reliable than the new testament.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-06-25 04:37:14)

Cybargs
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CameronPoe wrote:

People - the bible is not a reliable historical document. It was written with a political agenda in mind (Emperor Constantines). Josephus was a historian of the time and documents found at Nag Hammadi and Qumran are more reliable than the new testament.
hmm thats a good argument that i agree on... constantine was a pagan at first then he turned the roman empire into a christian state...

the nag hammadi library is more reliable, also the gospel of judas may be true...
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herrr_smity
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its the Jews they could chose who were to be crucified so the jews killed this "jesus"
MorbidFetus
Member
+76|6780|Ohio
The soldiers that actually nailed him to the cross.
TehSeraphim
Thread Ender
+58|6953|New Hampshire

spastic bullet wrote:

Yeah, there's too much Back To The Future spacetime-continuum shit going on with this story for it to be coherent.  God knows what everybody's going to do in advance, tells Jesus, who lets slip to Peter about the cock crowing, etc.

Idea for BTTF 4:
Michael J. Fox goes back in time with the Governator to save Jesus from God, who is actually OMGWTF Skynet, in league with Alex Winter from Bill and Ted, to prevent Keanu from ever becoming...  Teh Win.

Great Scott!!!!
They actually did this on Mad TV - before Terminator 3 came out.  The goernator went back in time and kept killing Judas, and it was pissing Jesus off because he knew he had to die for his sins so he kept bringing him back to life.  I don't like Mad TV very much, but it was one of their funnier sketches.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6943|US
I would say the Jewish officials.  They were the ones who had him charged.  However, I cannot understand why people use this against Jews today...it's just dumb.

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