we bargain alot for stuff we want, hell we GAVE the UK THERMONUCLEAR secrets in exchange for British-Developed VXBurning_Monkey wrote:
Those were nothing in the grand scheme of things.jkohlc wrote:
the allies done sum pretty nasty stuff to civillians too
the dresen bombing
and the 2 nukes
What is far more horrific is the fact that the US bargained with war criminals of the highest order to get their research. That in my mind makes us just as bad, considering we knew exactly where said research came from.
US got a lot of tech from germany... so did russia.Burning_Monkey wrote:
Those were nothing in the grand scheme of things.jkohlc wrote:
the allies done sum pretty nasty stuff to civillians too
the dresen bombing
and the 2 nukes
What is far more horrific is the fact that the US bargained with war criminals of the highest order to get their research. That in my mind makes us just as bad, considering we knew exactly where said research came from.
damn straightJOJOBA wrote:
the Dresden bombings and the 2 nukes were United States attempts at bringing their enemy to their knees. true they killed alot of people, but at the time, nearly every American militant believed that we did not drop the nukes, then there would be the invasion of Japan, that would have costed way more lives. i dont know what im trying to prove here, i just felt like including my 2 cents
I guess you do not know about the The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment...cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
ok US firebombed non-military targets in japan, but at least they didnt do medical experiments to POW's...
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no i never heard about the incident... just read it. all countries suck. nuke the moon for world peacelion8420 wrote:
I guess you do not know about the The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment...cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
ok US firebombed non-military targets in japan, but at least they didnt do medical experiments to POW's...
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html
and this was being done to citizens of our own country. History is always written by the winners! I am very much a patriot but our country is capable of some horrible things as well.
nah, start it on some island in the pacific, moon is too pricey. ill join ya we can call it ninjatopia or strikingninja or sumthing has to do w/ stryyker and ninjastryyker wrote:
im starting a new country one the moon to escape all the torture noob countries, who will join me?
speaking of which, I assume everyone knows the US had their own Japanese concentration camps during WWII ...ExecutionerStyle wrote:
Fucking sickening, just as bad as the Nazis did to the Jews.
Those bombs were atomic. Sillies.jkohlc wrote:
the allies done sum pretty nasty stuff to civillians too
the dresen bombing
and the 2 nukes
They had more freedom than the concentration camps that Hitler had, I know what they did was wrong, but at least they got to eat, and weren't tortured that I know of...Don't compaire the US camps to concetration camps.puckmercury wrote:
speaking of which, I assume everyone knows the US had their own Japanese concentration camps during WWII ...ExecutionerStyle wrote:
Fucking sickening, just as bad as the Nazis did to the Jews.
Uh, no. The Dresden bombings were the Western Allies trying to show Russia how big their penises were, and there is strong evidence that Japan tried to surrender on the condition the Imperial House was not abolished (something the US didn't want to do anyway), and the nukes were a warning to Russia.JOJOBA wrote:
the Dresden bombings and the 2 nukes were United States attempts at bringing their enemy to their knees.
Since when are atomic bombs not nuclear bombs?PspRpg-7 wrote:
Those bombs were atomic. Sillies.
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I'm in, don't care where so long as it's warm and there is broadband.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
nah, start it on some island in the pacific, moon is too pricey. ill join ya we can call it ninjatopia or strikingninja or sumthing has to do w/ stryyker and ninjastryyker wrote:
im starting a new country one the moon to escape all the torture noob countries, who will join me?
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then its taiwan! im gonna overthrow the gov and create a private army... then we will create a salvation for all ninjas as for the citezens of taiwan... they can well... do normal stuff like work and wash clothes, cook etc. u can be our economics minister. ur good in economics right?Jinto-sk wrote:
I'm in, don't care where so long as it's warm and there is broadband.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
nah, start it on some island in the pacific, moon is too pricey. ill join ya we can call it ninjatopia or strikingninja or sumthing has to do w/ stryyker and ninjastryyker wrote:
im starting a new country one the moon to escape all the torture noob countries, who will join me?
In my friends words "is he not even recognizing the crippling strategic bombing of German industry"...herrr_smity wrote:
Know that I'm NOT writing this as an anti American post I'm writing it because its time to recognize that the war was won by the blood of the Soviet people.
Actually, Allied bombing was hugely ineffective. They were bombing all the restaurants and what-not, as they discovered at the end of the war.|-LoNgHiLL-| wrote:
In my friends words "is he not even recognizing the crippling strategic bombing of German industry"...
And? Even if they'd had it, they were unlikely to be the first with a nuke. America had all the good scientists.|-LoNgHiLL-| wrote:
It was the western special operations that kept heavy water out of the Germans grasp...
And? The fact that they could have had less losses doesn't change the fact that they were winning.|-LoNgHiLL-| wrote:
And Russia was responsible for a huge portion of its own combat losses...
But Taiwan's so close to China! Why don't we take over Aus, and use all that desert, that's currently wasted, to store other people's prisoners (for a fee, of course). And then show those dirty Kiwis a lesson, by taking away their source of stress relief: yes, that's right, we're coming for the sheep.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
then its taiwan! im gonna overthrow the gov and create a private army... then we will create a salvation for all ninjas as for the citezens of taiwan... they can well... do normal stuff like work and wash clothes, cook etc. u can be our economics minister. ur good in economics right?
I could have lived my whole life without that mental picture.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
atomic-penis
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the bombing of German factories is highly overrated they didn't do that all that much damage|-LoNgHiLL-| wrote:
In my friends words "is he not even recognizing the crippling strategic bombing of German industry"...herrr_smity wrote:
Know that I'm NOT writing this as an anti American post I'm writing it because its time to recognize that the war was won by the blood of the Soviet people.
It was the western special operations that kept heavy water out of the Germans grasp...
And Russia was responsible for a huge portion of its own combat losses...
You are rite, he was trying to get all the components to where he needed them first...herrr_smity wrote:
the fight for heavy water is also a over rated incident Hitler was not trying to make a nuclear weapon
Minus the other forces at work against the axis, Russia would have been destroyed; as it should have been...herrr_smity wrote:
and yes the Russian were responsible for a big portion of there combat losses but it doesnt change the fact that they won the war for us