Xietsu
Banned
+50|6810
Are they illegal immigrant sympathizers? LmfaO.
PspRpg-7
-
+961|6951

I'm sure as hell not.
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7000|The United Center
I know Maddox is overplayed (can a website be overplayed?  whatever...anyway...) but I just think this is interesting.  I'm not directing this at anyone, I'm just putting it on the table.  Speaking of the table, I'm going to get some food and put that on the table too.  I'm really hungry.

Smooth, Tom, very smooth.  I sort of forgot to post the link.  Yeah, yeah, I know.  Shut up.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=walmart

Last edited by ThomasMorgan (2006-06-11 23:44:52)

Xietsu
Banned
+50|6810
So what's your point? Were everyone here all logical, rational, and reasonable, we would realize this being the problem--immigrants lowering our wages. Considering that the average man doesn't have enough ethical integrity to afford the upkeep of equal pay for those in desperation, it is really all to irrelevant. And thus, the only option is to control the flow of alotted, legal migration as well as possible. Nothing new to me, sir TM.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-11 23:51:04)

Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7018|Dallas

Xietsu wrote:

So what's your point? Were everyone here all logical, rational, and reasonable, we would realize this being the problem--immigrants lowering our wages. Considering that the average man doesn't have enough ethical integrity to afford the upkeep of equal pay for those in desperation, it is really all to irrelevant. And thus, the only option is to control the flow of alotted, legal migration as well as possible. Nothing new to me, sir TM.
SHUT UP
[pWa]Recon
Member
+27|7029

Xietsu wrote:

So what's your point? Were everyone here all logical, rational, and reasonable, we would realize this being the problem--immigrants lowering our wages. Considering that the average man doesn't have enough ethical integrity to afford the upkeep of equal pay for those in desperation, it is really all to irrelevant. And thus, the only option is to control the flow of alotted, legal migration as well as possible. Nothing new to me, sir TM.
SHUT UP
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7000|The United Center
I think what he's trying to say is that the problem isn't with the immigrants coming here, it's with the companies hiring them.  Obviously profit is the bottom line.  Companies will much rather hire someone who works hard for less money than someone who takes it easy and gets paid more.  Perhaps there need to be stricter laws enforcing the employment (or unemployment, depending on your viewpoint) of illegal immigrants.  If that would happen, maybe with harsher penalties, then companies would rather not take the risk.  Then, in turn, if illegal immigrants aren't being hired, their main reason for coming to this country would diminish, in turn lowering the rate at which they cross the border illegally.
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6810
In the crusade against the logical, Cougar has managed to persuade the aid out of his now new sidekick, [pWa]Recon.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

I think what he's trying to say is that the problem isn't with the immigrants coming here, it's with the companies hiring them.  Obviously profit is the bottom line.  Companies will much rather hire someone who works hard for less money than someone who takes it easy and gets paid more.  Perhaps there need to be stricter laws enforcing the employment (or unemployment, depending on your viewpoint) of illegal immigrants.  If that would happen, maybe with harsher penalties, then companies would rather not take the risk.  Then, in turn, if illegal immigrants aren't being hired, their main reason for coming to this country would diminish, in turn lowering the rate at which they cross the border illegally.
Yah...in case you didn't notice, my response to your link touches on this.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-06-11 23:58:29)

notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7000|The United Center

Xietsu wrote:

In the crusade against the logical, Cougar has managed to persuade the aid out of his now new sidekick, [pWa]Recon.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

I think what he's trying to say is that the problem isn't with the immigrants coming here, it's with the companies hiring them.  Obviously profit is the bottom line.  Companies will much rather hire someone who works hard for less money than someone who takes it easy and gets paid more.  Perhaps there need to be stricter laws enforcing the employment (or unemployment, depending on your viewpoint) of illegal immigrants.  If that would happen, maybe with harsher penalties, then companies would rather not take the risk.  Then, in turn, if illegal immigrants aren't being hired, their main reason for coming to this country would diminish, in turn lowering the rate at which they cross the border illegally.
Yah...in case you didn't notice, my response to your link touches on this.
So massive corporations have not the money to pay minimum wage?  Need I argue this further?
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7018|Dallas

[pWa]Recon wrote:

Xietsu wrote:

So what's your point? Were everyone here all logical, rational, and reasonable, we would realize this being the problem--immigrants lowering our wages. Considering that the average man doesn't have enough ethical integrity to afford the upkeep of equal pay for those in desperation, it is really all to irrelevant. And thus, the only option is to control the flow of alotted, legal migration as well as possible. Nothing new to me, sir TM.
SHUT UP

Cougar wrote:

Xietsu wrote:

So what's your point? Were everyone here all logical, rational, and reasonable, we would realize this being the problem--immigrants lowering our wages. Considering that the average man doesn't have enough ethical integrity to afford the upkeep of equal pay for those in desperation, it is really all to irrelevant. And thus, the only option is to control the flow of alotted, legal migration as well as possible. Nothing new to me, sir TM.
SHUT UP
I guess you were absent the day the teacher taught the students how to take a hint.
rustynutz
I am British!
+124|6936|England and damn proud
I was on my way to bed but then i saw this thread

I make a ryhm every time

I'm a poet and didn't know it!

Last edited by rustynutz (2006-06-12 00:02:55)

[pWa]Recon
Member
+27|7029

ThomasMorgan wrote:

I think what he's trying to say is that the problem isn't with the immigrants coming here, it's with the companies hiring them.  Obviously profit is the bottom line.  Companies will much rather hire someone who works hard for less money than someone who takes it easy and gets paid more.  Perhaps there need to be stricter laws enforcing the employment (or unemployment, depending on your viewpoint) of illegal immigrants.  If that would happen, maybe with harsher penalties, then companies would rather not take the risk.  Then, in turn, if illegal immigrants aren't being hired, their main reason for coming to this country would diminish, in turn lowering the rate at which they cross the border illegally.
you are correct to a point, it is just not illegals employment status, but also the fact that they get free medical care, they don't pay taxes (as i get nailed every year on capital gains tax and federal taxes and property taxes and state taxes) and illegals are one of the main sources of identity theft. case in point www.cnn.com, main page look at this story "ID theft leaves woman $1 million in debt"

~Recon
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7000|The United Center

[pWa]Recon wrote:

ThomasMorgan wrote:

I think what he's trying to say is that the problem isn't with the immigrants coming here, it's with the companies hiring them.  Obviously profit is the bottom line.  Companies will much rather hire someone who works hard for less money than someone who takes it easy and gets paid more.  Perhaps there need to be stricter laws enforcing the employment (or unemployment, depending on your viewpoint) of illegal immigrants.  If that would happen, maybe with harsher penalties, then companies would rather not take the risk.  Then, in turn, if illegal immigrants aren't being hired, their main reason for coming to this country would diminish, in turn lowering the rate at which they cross the border illegally.
you are correct to a point, it is just not illegals employment status, but also the fact that they get free medical care, they don't pay taxes (as i get nailed every year on capital gains tax and federal taxes and property taxes and state taxes) and illegals are one of the main sources of identity theft. case in point www.cnn.com, main page look at this story "ID theft leaves woman $1 million in debt"

~Recon
Well when you put it that way...

I wish I was an illegal immigrant.  I want $1,000,000.  I don't want to pay taxes.  They're living the good life...
[pWa]Recon
Member
+27|7029

Xietsu wrote:

In the crusade against the logical, Cougar has managed to persuade the aid out of his now new sidekick, [pWa]Recon.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

I think what he's trying to say is that the problem isn't with the immigrants coming here, it's with the companies hiring them.  Obviously profit is the bottom line.  Companies will much rather hire someone who works hard for less money than someone who takes it easy and gets paid more.  Perhaps there need to be stricter laws enforcing the employment (or unemployment, depending on your viewpoint) of illegal immigrants.  If that would happen, maybe with harsher penalties, then companies would rather not take the risk.  Then, in turn, if illegal immigrants aren't being hired, their main reason for coming to this country would diminish, in turn lowering the rate at which they cross the border illegally.
Yah...in case you didn't notice, my response to your link touches on this.
however misguided you are, sidekick i am not, co-worker yes... sidekick no. but the point remains the same, we are trying to have a intelligent conversation, and you, are trying to numb the discussion with nonsense. hence the SHUT UP
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6928|Canberra, AUS
Why don't you just come to Australia. We have fuckall illegal immigrants.

I suppose you all know our policy (lock 'em up and keep 'em there). Plus we have thousands of k's of oceans to keep others out.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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