Optimus_Primal
Member
+10|6781|North West, USA
When playing those maps it is fun to be able to last a little while.  If the A-10 was the end all tank killer than no one would use the tanks.  Then it would defeat the idea of the new maps we paid for.  As much as the A-10 is one of my favorite planes growing up, I like to play a fair game. 
Cohammer
Member
+61|6766
i wish that it had a second seat and it had kinda "tv" bombs like the rockets on the helos
the_outsider38
Microsoft Poster Child
+83|6923|Vancouver BC Canada

Spark wrote:

If they made it 'real' then it wouldn't be called 'Armored Fury' - it would be 'A10 Ownage In Action'.
I would buy that...Lol
beerface702
Member
+65|6921|las vegas
ok bitch's..stop complaing. you already ruined the game enough. just move on with yoour life please. or end it all together.


the a10 is just fine.


not as cool as the one in USI. but if we had that A10 in regular bf2 people would be CRYING SO BAD I WOULD BE SICK


just play. learn to adapt. jesus fuck fuck
beerface702
Member
+65|6921|las vegas

PBAsydney wrote:

http://usi.jarhedz.com

How the A-10 is supposed to be.
+1 on that. that is very accurate in the game. hellfires, Enough cluster bombs. And a cannon that really chews shit up.

rofl i could see it now if EA had included a similar design...people would have a petion or boycott up within in minutes


learn to fly you facks
=[4th]=SlayThem
Destroy Noob Cannons
+96|7062

908741059871059781 wrote:

Dude,

There is no way it can be realistic. Not even because of the "its a video game" card. They can't put a jet that outperforms all of the others in the game because people would be crying about it. The easiest way to keep them even is to make them almost the same with slight differences.

It seems people will cry no matter what they do.
Woah woah woah... They can't???

Could have fooled me with the J-10.

Or rather, every jet in the game out-performing every US Jet. The Su flies circles around the best US jet(F-18... and the F-18 sucks)

I was hoping that for once a US jet would be worth flying... *sigh of dissappointment*

I'll still get it

Last edited by =[4th]=SlayThem (2006-06-06 20:27:32)

PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6853|Home of the Escalade Herds
To the people saying that EA couldn't make it like it is IRL without it owning everything...

Look at USI mod, it's A-10 is much more faithfull to the real thing yet it doesn't wtfown everything. They balanced it by having lots of AA around.

The USI mod A-10 sounds a lot better to (and from what a friend says, it's much more accurate (he hears them every day)).

Also, USI is free
Y0URDAD
I'ma Eat Yo Children!
+17|6873|Annapolis, MD
I have the solution! Make the PLA/MEC bomber get 6 Air-Air Missiles (plus its bombs), and the A-10 gets a gun that takes about 5 seconds of hits to take out a tank. That would make it even. Sure, the A-10 can cut through tanks, but it would require steady aim, and now it has an airplane to worry about that can shoot it down. It won't happen, but that's what I would have done.
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6768|byah

908741059871059781 wrote:

2ndLt.Tucker wrote:

i dont know they did put the other 2 tank busters in there which have super sonic speeds and like said not as durable as the A-10.  I think it would be a bit more balanced to have the slower moving plane with more armor and hit power and then the less armor quicker attack planes.  Would still be balanced in that sense becuase the A-10 cant even go afterburner.
That sounds pretty good! Maybe somthing EA didn't consider?

Another thing though is that people are complaining about the cannon. I know it tears stuff up in real life, but it shouldn't in the game. When it comes to jets, ground forces (especially AA with that nice circle of death surrounding you)  already have zero chance of survival when faced with a decent piolot.
no shit its a 3000rpm tank piercing rounds what else is it suppose to do bounce off.

Last edited by The#1Spot (2006-06-06 21:05:28)

Jewbat
Member
+8|6958
What mostly bugs me about the A-10 is the fact that in the past several "Booster Packs" and patches, that the other armies (Other than America in this instance) have had significantly better weaponry when it comes to their air power. The Arabs have their Mig, which outperforms the Harrier, and we all know the agility of the nimble J-10. Granted, the Z-10 sucks mostly, because it's a large target with hardly any firepower, but it's the same or more powerful than the Cobra.

And the Arabs have that monster of a cannon on their chopper, one that shreds infantry and light armor to ribbons.

Just one gripe though to EA.

Couldn't this one time, you make the planes, and yes I will say it, unbalanced in favor of the Americans as you did with the Chinese vs USMC forces? Harriers can't keep up with J-10s, and only recently could they barely do so with the new patches that have dramatically modified the speed, agility, armor, and so forth of every flying vehicle. Be it helo, plane or otherwise.
snc8698
Member
+0|6849
After playing AF for about 3 hours, I would have to say the A-10 is very balanced in terms of the rest of the units on each map. A competant mobile AA driver can easily drop one before getting into bomb range. The cannon is a little more powerful because it's your only means of dropping other aircraft. There is no need to beef up it's ability vs. ground units anymore because of its 4 bomb payload.

If they made it pwn armor like it does IRL then it would be nerfed shortly after because far more crying noobs know how to drive a tank around than keep a jet in the air.
Aardcore
Member
+60|6941|USA, Arizona
Dude that video shows some crazy manuevers an A10 can pull, comparing to what I've seen in AF so far and anything from that video... the video REALLY demonstrates the manueverability those two huge engines give the A10 LOL. In AF they look like fast blimps moving around sounding really cool HAHAHAH.

Still, the only thing I'm bothered about with the A10 is that they're not 2 seating models, one for main pilot/gunner, the other as a guided missile/2ndary bomber.

But I dunno.
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6797

Jewba wrote:

Granted, the Z-10 sucks mostly, because it's a large target with hardly any firepower, but it's the same or more powerful than the Cobra.
t]
And the Arabs have that monster of a cannon on their chopper, one that shreds infantry and light armor to ribbons.
The attack choppers are really good balanced, even if the Mi-28 got explosives round and is therefore superior compared to the other choppers, it's slow, bulky and the pilots missiles have a far spread out patter. You have to strafe shoot them to hit small targets.

Tha AH-1Z has maybe a weaker gun, but is faster, more agile, better rocket pattern, smaller (and therefore harder to hit). Imo the AH-1Z is far superior compared to the Mi-28. If you know how to use it you can just rape everything in the BF2 universe.
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|6870|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

carbon unit wrote:

I usually roadkill all the guys waiting around for the A10 and helos, the maps are very flat which makes a good road killing scene
noobmurder the second?
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6930|New York

beerface702 wrote:

ok bitch's..stop complaing. you already ruined the game enough. just move on with yoour life please. or end it all together.


the a10 is just fine.


not as cool as the one in USI. but if we had that A10 in regular bf2 people would be CRYING SO BAD I WOULD BE SICK


just play. learn to adapt. jesus fuck fuck
Beef, you have some seriouse Issues, Have you seen a doctor for this? LOL Sheesh.

J/K Bro, You Know peeps will complain no matter what, but i have to agree that the A-10 is TOO nerfed. It needs just s tiny bit more power, If not, its just a slow ass plane that gets owned by AA and its worthless as it is in the game now.
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6930|New York
As crappy as the A-10 flys in the game, The rounds from the MEC chopper in that plane would be ALOT better than what we have now. You can run straight at a tank and unload the gun and the tank just looks at you and Drives off LOL. If it wernt for the bombs, the damn plane wouldnt be worth a crap. Now if we are talking real life, the A-10 was Not a bomber. Not one i ever Armed, had bombs. Everything was Anti Armor and Air to Air ordinance. But hey its a game i guess.
pure_beef_69
Banned
+186|6875
A10's look so cool
E7IX3R
is drunk and crazy
+216|6916|UK
Yes they look cool but the cannons are fucking useless against tanks. Yesterday I went 26-2 with it but only ended up with 32 points because loads of people blocked the runway or got killed when I dropped a payload.

But, shooting the tanks down in one strafing run is impossible unless its nearly dead.

Did EA/Dice not do their research?! DEPLETED URANIUM ROUNDS FFS.
Cheeky_Ninja06
Member
+52|6961|Cambridge, England

fierce wrote:

If you know how to use it you can just rape everything in the BF2 universe.
except the tiger although you never see them together pah. the tiger is more manouvarble, about as wide as a bicycle and has narrow rockets, as well as exploding rounds........now thats unbalanced
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6797
imho the Ah-1z is more maneuverable, but the Tiger HAP is a god damn racing machine. It's torque is superior to every other helo and you can easily outclimb other helos to get into a higher and therefore better position.

The gun got explosives rounds, but the gunner hasn't got a large angle to use it. If you compare it with the Mi-28 it's really tiny. I think it's balanced to the other helos.
alpinestar
Member
+304|6824|New York City baby.
EA doesn't have internet they can't watch it sorry .
Yong-OV
Member
+11|6786

SkoobyDu wrote:

Now I haven't got Armoured Fury yet but
You know what is realy funny.... people like you....


now I never had sex in my life but ......

well BUT WHAT?
You don't have it, so don't complain about stuff you have never experienced on your own.
KurtisMayfield
Member
+1|6883
So, please tell me what would make you happy?

#1. There are no interceptors on these map. I hate to tell you but without aerial superiority that A-10 is staying on the pavement, so be happy you have no fighters on your tail

#2. The only think you have to worry about is AA on the ground. Thats it. Because the other pilot is doing the same thing as you, looking to bomb targets.

#3. They had to nerf the "real" A-10. Its a video game. In real life if I lined up a tank shell on a chopper or jet they would be blown to bits.. but this is not real life. It is called balance. If the A-10 > all vehicles on the map this map pack would quickly die... because a majority of people are on the ground and are your targets.

I really don't know what to say to some pilots. Maybe step back into reality for once.
Fredrik
i hate you all
+201|6877|Norway
A message to EA:
Please put nuclear bombs in the game so i can blow everything up by klicking my mouse and then the game ends. You nerfed the game, i want hiroshima
SSG-Loughlin[75thR]
Member
+0|6971

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

If its NOTHING Like the Real Plane, Why the hell put it in the game? Anyways The Damn plane has been retired anyways WTF. Before i got hurt in the AF in Desert storm, That was the frigging Tank Muncher i use to arm before they went out and whiped the crap out of the armor. I mean Cmon, The cannon on the A-10 can and does take out a whole batallion of Armor on its own, so if you have to use the same amount of ammo as you do with the other planes, I call it a waste of programing.

Shit now im dissapointed, But will buy the frigging thing just to play the US maps.
This is why companies like EA need to stick to there Battlefield 2142's where they can make nice imaginary futuristic weapons with imaginary power and have some play room.  On the one hand it is a game.  Game's are supposed to be fun but also a challenge.  Kids play them for entertainment, to pass time, etc.  Adults play them to escape from the stresses of real life, entertainment, pass time and a bunch of other reasons.

However, when you choose to make a game based off of modern real life weaponry people are going to have certain expectations.  EA has chosen to include certain weapons in this game and its booster packs that lets face are really stand out weapons and have significant power.  Lets face it a .50 Call sniper rifle hits you center masse you ain't getting up.  People know all about the A-10 and its cannon.  Nevermind the ordinance it can drop/fire.  The Abrams MBT as well.  It's a good thing they didn't include the reactive armor variant of the Abrams or it'd be really screwed up.

In some ways the complaints about these weapons and their flaws is justified.  They chose to base this game off of real life weapons.  People do and will have certain expectations.  Half of what they boast about the vehicles and weaponry on the BF2 website is garbage.  They cater to babies who can't handle getting owned.

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