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Dilbert_X wrote:

uziq wrote:

she has a PhD in physics but worked at bell labs, in applied science.

Exactly, not an engineer.

Are we really doing semantics on this? Very accomplished STEM person, large list of honors and distinctions, including Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering. Served under two US presidents. But sure, just a mere physicist. Probably can't flip a light switch.

You can just withdraw your disdain.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2022-12-03 06:06:40)

The point is she's not an engineer, she's a physicist who does materials science.
Of course there are black engineers.

The point is South Africa literally can't keep the lights on when they're literally sitting on piles of coal and gold - thats the future when white people are fully cancelled and black people are trying to run things.

uziq wrote:

here’s a black woman who could run rings around you with her knowledge of your field.

Nothing she has done is remotely related to my field.

instead of being silo’d in a side workshop tinkering with lathes your whole life.

You have literally no idea of what I do.

You're not a world leader in your discipline, whats your point?

If white people are racist and inferior why are white countries invariably the preferred destination for migrants?

How is me reading a book going to stop the flood of Albanians bringing diphtheria into Kent?

Also

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2022-12-04 01:56:23)

Nobody here is calling white people inferior. What is that even a response to.

race thread mac wrote:

Just placate them

euro thread mac wrote:

Appeasement doesn't work.

5 black cops beat a black man to death on video. Never a dull day on Earth.

I saw the video. I have the same position as I did regarding the Floyd arrest: the cops should be fired but not charged. This is another case of some guy resisting arrest and getting killed for it. Don't fight the cops.

That's a stretch. A bit on the same wavelength as "I have a black friend so I can't be racist." If a black cop beats up a black man, that doesn't absolve police of institutional racism, nor the confrontational attitude towards the public, bad attitudes in the force, problematic training. Documented, videotaped, recorded.

Sure, don't fight the cops, but that doesn't proof you against getting your shit kicked in or straight up murdered if they're in the mood.

It's not really something that can be easily summed in a multiple choice. White supremacism, in whatever form or label you want to use for it, is part of the roots of American society, government, institution. Americans live and participate in the system as it has evolved. Removing or toppling (fake) legacy statues will do little to push us forward beyond improving local aesthetics. People are still going to be adverse to humoring The Conversation, and it's improbable that a way will be found to frame it which will please everyone.

Another group who has to deal with people all day are paramedics. While still an imperfect sort (who isn't), I think they probably don't shoot as many small dogs as police.

I have never felt like I had my life threatened by a cashier, a deliveryman, or a schoolteacher. None of these people are hovering their hands over a glock like paramilitary Yosemite Sam when interacting with the public. None of these people will decide to stalk me for a few blocks to see if I break any traffic rules. A clerk might strike up a conversation about a book I've bought. A cop might ask if I have any weapons in the car. That isn't a question I have to answer. But if I don't, or if I dodge it, or say I prefer not to answer, will I be making their day 'unpleasant?' Do I fib and get caught in a lie if they decide to search my vehicle? Do I tell the truth about the box cutter in the briefcase on the back seat and make them FeAr FoR tHeIr LiFe? Will I get to go home? Or will I die digging my wallet out of my pants pocket?

I don't think police should end in America, I just think things need to be rethought.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2023-01-30 02:06:00)

If they just gave you robo-tickets for speeding or slipping through a red light, they would be able to use neither as a pretext to get you for other stuff like leaving your new proof of insurance back at the office. Being able to eyeball the contents of your vehicle for anything else out of place helps them fulfil the CSI fantasy. Maybe they'll get moved to homicide after finding the corner of a laptop computer sticking out from under your back seat. Tsk tsk, distracted driving were we?

You don't actually have to speed or run a red light to get pulled over for it.



That's the neat part!