Poll

United states of Europe?

Sure! It would benefit us all!26%26% - 28
Why not, aslong as Turkey doesnt join..25%25% - 26
No, really bad idea, we're better on our own!22%22% - 23
No Certainly Not!25%25% - 27
Total: 104
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6796|NYC / Hamburg

as long as switzerland is not part of it (and the uk is welcomed to join us) i dont really care.
Seriously: it wont work. The people are just too different. maybe a France (and their lapdog germany) Italy & Spain union would work, or a UK & scandinavia & netherlands union would work. Also a germany/austria & and eastern countries would work (hey lets spit poland (j/k)). But all of europe: NEVER!
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DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6860|Finland

Zaitik wrote:

and max what comes to different peeps...just come to ask fin that do you hate swedish people.. most one wuld answer yes... nothing personal sweden..
uhhh.. What? (as in: It took a while for me to understand what you wrote + What are you suggesting?)

There has always been a friendly rivalry between Finns and Swedes, but hate? I'd say.. ..not?

Can you present some actual proof of this opinion existing? A poll? Any substantial evidence? If yes, that definitely slipped through my fine comb..

Are you sure that you're not just now reflecting your little opinions, and stating them as one of an entire country's? Watch it..

Last edited by DonFck (2006-05-29 05:58:03)

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Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6938|Sweden

rh27 wrote:

I don't think it will work. For one thing I doubt enough people in the UK would want to join this USE. Look at the Euro, we were all against joining that, and now it's a few years later and there's still no intention of joining.
You'll have to get the Euro soon, it's written in the constitution that all countries must share the same currency, and you cant just leave the EU, that would bring the british economy to a halt. And also, there already is a European anthem, it's a classic by beethoven or something. And Sweden is like the USA of scandinavia, we laugh at everybody, cause we think we're so huge. And yes, we do pwn Finland at hockey. But i do support ya'll in the Lordi thing. Yes i love Finnish music, Nightwish LOVE!!
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6796|NYC / Hamburg

Zaitik wrote:

and max what comes to different peeps...just come to ask fin that do you hate swedish people.. most one wuld answer yes... nothing personal sweden..

and what would we benefit for it? nothing?
yeah, maybe the fins and swedes dont get along well, but they are still relatively alike (laws/government/culture/view of the world/...). But a Swede and a spanish would get far less well along with each other.

benefit? what benefit has the EU brought on a large scale? sure spain has got all new roads that germany was happy to to pay, but where is the large scale benefit (economically/Law)?
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max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6796|NYC / Hamburg

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

rh27 wrote:

I don't think it will work. For one thing I doubt enough people in the UK would want to join this USE. Look at the Euro, we were all against joining that, and now it's a few years later and there's still no intention of joining.
You'll have to get the Euro soon, it's written in the constitution that all countries must share the same currency, and you cant just leave the EU, that would bring the british economy to a halt. And also, there already is a European anthem, it's a classic by beethoven or something. And Sweden is like the USA of scandinavia, we laugh at everybody, cause we think we're so huge. And yes, we do pwn Finland at hockey. But i do support ya'll in the Lordi thing. Yes i love Finnish music, Nightwish LOVE!!
what constitution? you mean the one that failed? as long as the Uk doesn't accept it there is no way of enforcing it. You cant kick them out either. in order for the EU to make any ruling all countries need to agree. Also how are you goint to sell a constiution to the  Uk citizens? The UK doesnt even have one.

And for the UK economy being destroyed by an expulsion form the eu: on what do you base this claim? Many of the countries that are in europe but not in the EU (CH and the eastern countries that are not part of the EU (also seen "historically" until the new 25 members joined)) have good (and partially even better) economiacally growth than the EU average.

And for the sweden/finland thing: i'm sure its like the relationship between germany and austria / france and belgium. They laugh at them and make fun of them, but in reallity they get allong pretty well

EDIT: flame me but i always thought that finland wasnt a pure "member" of scandinavia. I thought that they were a mixture of russia and scandinavia

Last edited by max (2006-05-29 06:32:50)

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Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6938|Sweden
haha, dont tell the finnish that they're russians. That'll freak them out
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6860|Finland

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

haha, dont tell the finnish that they're russians. That'll freak them out
True that! Now..

https://www.themepsp.com/albums/userpics/10071/Annoyed%20Monkey.jpg

Here's the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth:

-Finland, before independency has been a part of Sweden (pre 1809)
-Finland was lost by the Swedes in 1809 to Russia, where it continued existence as an autonomous region
-Finland gained independency in 1917 and has been in two wars since for its borders (the winter war 1939 (a direct result of the nazi-soviet-non-aggression pact ) and the continuation war 1941-44)
-Finland isn't directly a scandinavian country, but is definitely not Russian.
-Scandinavia is basically Sweden, Norway and Denmark (although sometimes also Iceland, the Faeroe islands and Greenland(which is a Danish self-governed territory) are included)
-If Finland is added to the context, the more or less official term is "The Nordic Countries"

End

Last edited by DonFck (2006-05-29 11:18:27)

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Jejjk
My "Page Up" has never been used.
+40|6836|Sweden

DonFck wrote:

Zaitik wrote:

and max what comes to different peeps...just come to ask fin that do you hate swedish people.. most one wuld answer yes... nothing personal sweden..
uhhh.. What? (as in: It took a while for me to understand what you wrote + What are you suggesting?)

There has always been a friendly rivalry between Finns and Swedes, but hate? I'd say.. ..not?

Can you present some actual proof of this opinion existing? A poll? Any substantial evidence? If yes, that definitely slipped through my fine comb..

Are you sure that you're not just now reflecting your little opinions, and stating them as one of an entire country's? Watch it..
Of course finland hated us when we won the Olympic Hockey, but thats a different kind of "hate", rather than wishing death upon all swedes (a´la www.godhatessweden.com)
That type of hatred is for inbred yankees.
dan500
Member
+57|7076
European Union sucks, doing this would just take more free rights away from people.
nev
Member
+23|6815|Land of OZ
Wot a dumb idea - the poll - not the EU

Its already happened ...............

And Turkey is included.

Would flame the originator of the post - but thats not needed.

Lookin for the "wot a ferk wit" emoticon
Squig2510
Member
+0|6920
It would be a hard task to unite Europe. The US had something in common, out here we have had dozens of wars against each other, and huge differences. Still I think a united EU in ways like the US will come someday. Like said, the Euro is a start. I have no idea what GB would do, but I dont mind letting Turkey in. They're becoming a more and more Western country and they are the border between the other European countries and the middle east in case anything nasty happens (meant positively, not like Turkey being cannon fodder). Whatever name it will be, I'm in. It takes some time and a lot of money from rich countries including the Netherlands, but the result would be real nice.
My only question is, would the US or any other world leading country allow another leading union?

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