Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6903|Canberra, AUS

anzus wrote:

vedds wrote:

anzus wrote:

Got to watch our backs from the New Zealander though they may try to steal our rugby trophies.
What Rugby Trophies?

The Poms have the world cup.
Tri-Nations is in sitting at the NZRFU in Wellington.
So is the Bledisloe cup.
Super 14 trophy is sitting next to the Super 12 trophy at Jade Stadium.

HOLD ON - MAYBE WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT OUR TROPHIES.........

Seriously i think we need to be there (yes NZ has troops there too).

Got to agree with 4_Phucsache - it cant be a pleasent job but if we leave the situation alone it can only deteriorate.
I by god we love you NZers, we have been together through thick and thin and I love how we can still hang shit on each other and be friends. Cheers mate.
I know I posted this before, but you know that under the Constitution (not sure which) NZ can join Australia as a state any time it wishes?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Spark wrote:

anzus wrote:

vedds wrote:


What Rugby Trophies?

The Poms have the world cup.
Tri-Nations is in sitting at the NZRFU in Wellington.
So is the Bledisloe cup.
Super 14 trophy is sitting next to the Super 12 trophy at Jade Stadium.

HOLD ON - MAYBE WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT OUR TROPHIES.........

Seriously i think we need to be there (yes NZ has troops there too).

Got to agree with 4_Phucsache - it cant be a pleasent job but if we leave the situation alone it can only deteriorate.
I by god we love you NZers, we have been together through thick and thin and I love how we can still hang shit on each other and be friends. Cheers mate.
I know I posted this before, but you know that under the Constitution (not sure which) NZ can join Australia as a state any time it wishes?
well damn that would solve a lot of issues but create one big one? what AFL teams would you have.
4_Phucsache
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I agree we can hang shit on each other but beware any nation that hangs shit on OUR New Zealand without OUR permission lol.
vedds
Member
+52|6983|Christchurch New Zealand

Spark wrote:

I know I posted this before, but you know that under the Constitution (not sure which) NZ can join Australia as a state any time it wishes?
Lord help us all if it ever comes to that....... probably the only way us kiwis will ever be able to say we have the cricket world cup.

anzus wrote:

well damn that would solve a lot of issues but create one big one? what AFL teams would you have.
Nah, would never happen - theres no way in hell youd ever get a red-blooded  kiwi bloke wearing shorts that tight!
4_Phucsache
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Cmon now we all know the ONLY thing a Kiwi wont do for thier country is live in it *smirk*

Stop derailing this topic lol.....
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia
so what is being said in NZ? are they questioning the amount of troops they have sent?
vedds
Member
+52|6983|Christchurch New Zealand

anzus wrote:

so what is being said in NZ? are they questioning the amount of troops they have sent?
It seems that an awful lot of kiwis are questioning whether we are doing enough, soon enough. From what i have seen there is generally good support for the intervention.

BTW i think we currently have 40-50 troops on the ground with a hundred or so more to follow in the next couple of days.
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia
so basically both our countries (civilians) are thinking along the same lines, get more in there and don't leave till we have done the job. Good to here mate. Well I'm out for the night. Catch you all later.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

mcminty wrote:

My geography teacher pointed out that the East Timorese are burning buildings as part of their rioting. The same buildings Australia constructed for them after the first bout of bloodshed (some years back).

I know the politically correct answer would be to do what we are doing (help them), but if they burn down our attempts to help them, then let 'em figure it out by themselves....


Mcminty.
But the question you have to ask is who's doing the burning?  The capital has issues with gang activity.  Poor areas over here have problems with gang activity.  East Timor is an entire poor *nation*.

And besides, I'll bet the Indonesians are involved somehow.
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:

mcminty wrote:

My geography teacher pointed out that the East Timorese are burning buildings as part of their rioting. The same buildings Australia constructed for them after the first bout of bloodshed (some years back).

I know the politically correct answer would be to do what we are doing (help them), but if they burn down our attempts to help them, then let 'em figure it out by themselves....


Mcminty.
And besides, I'll bet the Indonesians are involved somehow.
Thats one statement I would back you 100%. Sorry but I just don't trust them. We can help them and the next day their accusing us of some crap international shit & then the next day they want our help. Make up your mind Indonesia, where do you stand!
Sh1fty2k5
MacSwedish
+113|6938|Sweden
Sure, Australia will kick ass down there. Those rebels and rioters are no more tactical than the ones in africa. And those Steyr AUGs. Mmmm

Last edited by Sh1fty2k5 (2006-05-29 06:40:39)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

anzus wrote:

Thats one statement I would back you 100%. Sorry but I just don't trust them. We can help them and the next day their accusing us of some crap international shit & then the next day they want our help. Make up your mind Indonesia, where do you stand!
I don't think they'd ever ask for our help, that would be embarassing.  Is anyone else watching that telemovie on ABC?
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia
your right they dont ask for it, for some dumb reason we keep giving them financial aid for no thanks at all.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790
Uh......no thanks?  They've become a lot less militant, and were quick to respond to the terrorist attack in Bali.  I wasn't aware we were sending them aid though.  How much?
ozghost
Mr piss EVERYONE off
+48|6938|Kangarooland
if we can send troops over to timor ( i dont totally disagree with this) i believe we should send some up to the top end where Gangs are running amuck, with spears, woomera's the whole caboodle, seriously look into it, its emabarressing.
Cold Fussion
72% alcohol
+63|6896|Sydney, Australia

mcminty wrote:

Cold Fussion wrote:

How come we are in East Timor?
Do you own a TV...?
Yes

So if it's a small riot, why are we sending in troops?

Last edited by Cold Fussion (2006-05-29 22:19:54)

Fred[OZ75]
Jihad Jeep Driver
+19|6988|Perth, Western Australia
Don't really think we need to send in more troops, maybe we should have done what we did the first time. The first time we went in and occupied the whole country in a few days and it stopped all opposition in its tracks. This time we took the first few days making sure the airport was secure not patroling Dili which allowed gangs to loot and kill. Then again the first time we sent in the SAS a week earlier and the opposition just disappeared... strange that.

Basically any population would act the same if law and order broke down... get rid of the police and have the military fighting itself and there will be gangs of looters. Give it a week and everything will be carm, especially as more police arrive.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6903|Canberra, AUS

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Sure, Australia will kick ass down there. Those rebels and rioters are no more tactical than the ones in africa. And those Steyr AUGs. Mmmm
I've always wondered why the ADF seems to have a fascination with Steyr Aug's...

Yes

So if it's a small riot, why are we sending in troops?
I would not call a riot that A. Kills people B. Makes every sensible person flee the capital and C. Make the government ask the help of a nother government whom it kicked out not so long ago - small. We, in essence, CREATED East Timor - I would fucking root for the removal of any government who is in the same position and doesn't help.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
jamiecracker
Member
+17|6976|Wollongong,Australia
iam not sure if we need any more troops over ther maybe a few more companies couldnt hurt
they are still having problems with looting etc but from what i have heard most of the fighting and killing in Dili has stopped
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:

Uh......no thanks?  They've become a lot less militant, and were quick to respond to the terrorist attack in Bali.  I wasn't aware we were sending them aid though.  How much?
ah shit, I don't much, millions, will do some searching for dollars but as I recall I was horrified last time I read it on the news,

ok heres some results,

http://www.ausaid.gov.au/country/countr … n=EastAsia

not sure how valid it is since volcano incident.

Last edited by anzus (2006-05-30 01:26:00)

BVC
Member
+325|6924

anzus wrote:

Got to watch our backs from the New Zealander though they may try to steal our rugby trophies.
What rugby trophies? BURN!!!!

JG1567JG wrote:

As an American we would love to come and help but people would just call us names and accuse of war crimes and torture.  They would think we were there for gold or diamonds or what ever precious resource that is in E. Timor.
There is a bit of oil in East Timor, and I believe a small number of Marines turned up unexpectedly.  I believe they're there to protect the US embassy however, and you need not worry about any oil accusations.  If that had been the case there would be a much larger US presence, and we would of seen US troops there the first time round.  In any case, welcome aboard

Spark wrote:

I know I posted this before, but you know that under the Constitution (not sure which) NZ can join Australia as a state any time it wishes?

4_Phucsache wrote:

I agree we can hang shit on each other but beware any nation that hangs shit on OUR New Zealand without OUR permission lol.
I'm sure Australia will be accepted into the New Zealand Empire, albeit begrudgingly.  Be warned though, we will give your bit of land its rightful name - "The West Island"

4_Phucsache wrote:

Cmon now we all know the ONLY thing a Kiwi wont do for thier country is live in it *smirk*
Heh, that got a laugh out of me!  A bunch of my mates have moved over to Brisbane recently

anzus wrote:

so what is being said in NZ? are they questioning the amount of troops they have sent?
We've sent an advance platoon of sorts, and a company.  Personally I think we should sent a lot more.

anzus wrote:

Thats one statement I would back you 100%. Sorry but I just don't trust them. We can help them and the next day their accusing us of some crap international shit & then the next day they want our help. Make up your mind Indonesia, where do you stand!
Nobody here trusts them either, not after what happened to Pte.Leonard Manning a few years ago.

Last edited by Pubic (2006-05-30 01:28:26)

Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6903|Canberra, AUS
Personally I don't really trust Indonesia that much.

We gave them A BILLION AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS after the tsunami - making us the biggest donators - and it was all to Indonesia (well, the billion dollars was)!

And a year and a bit later, they turn around and stab us in the back for letting in - what under our law, anyway - refugees from W. Papua
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Spark wrote:

Personally I don't really trust Indonesia that much.

We gave them A BILLION AUSTRALIAN DOLLARS after the tsunami - making us the biggest donators - and it was all to Indonesia (well, the billion dollars was)!

And a year and a bit later, they turn around and stab us in the back for letting in - what under our law, anyway - refugees from W. Papua
yup thats what pissed me off!

Now after East timor should we do a turn about and walk straight into W.Papua. I mean if they accusing us of meddling we may as well do some meddling.
4_Phucsache
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+112|6811|Brisbane Australia
Well from someone whos been there and played that game I say if our troops are there controlling the situation then we should just bloody well kepp it....like the poms used to do.
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia
loved watching the news tonight, Indonesia had closed their borders & sent their naval fleet to the coastal borders. Believed to be just a sign of posturing! Lmao I say let them mass their forces in one spot just makes em easier targets, 24hours and their entire naval fleet will be sitting on the bottom.

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