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I stay away from dark liquors like whiskey. Congeners found in dark liquor gives you hangover while clear liquors like vodka do not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congener_(beverages)

i had an extremely nice limited edition sherry cask tallisker once. that was a memorable bottle. the japanese stuff is great in small quantities, too. i tend to favour single-malt overall, bushmills or the rarer welsh varieties if i can get them.

lagavulin 12/16 is my go to winter drink. occasionally when i’m out on a drinking spree with buddies, i’ll order one (or occasionally a double) neat, when i’m sure the tank is full of regular drinks/pints and don’t want to bloat any more. that’s usually a mistake because it just takes the drunkenness to an entirely different plateau or headspace. liquor is definitely staying-in drinks. getting soused on whiskey is very unpleasant. can taste it and smell it for days after, especially the islay stuff, like it’s coming out of every pore.

on that note, in summer months i love making my own old fashioneds. good cocktail to watch movies or read with, alone or in company. one of the few variants of whisk(e)y that girls will get along with. i just throw in a decent mid-range sweet bourbon like maker’s mark or woodford reserve (my two favourites).

Last edited by uziq (2020-04-27 06:57:47)

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irish and welsh tend to be double or triple distilled, whereas lots of scotch is single-malt. can make it very marmite and hard-going as a result. when you find one you like, you really like it.

anecdotally it seems people keep expensive whiskey or spirits for special occasions or sentimental value. people don't really invest in whiskey as a commodity/stock, do they? i thought that sort of speculation was confined to the wine world. mind you, i lived over the road from a whiskey bar for a few years and it had bottles there well into the $20,000+ category. like anything, people can take it too far. it doesn't hinder your enjoyment of whatever else, though. the only whiskeys i avoid are the jack daniels and jim beams and what have you. they are really hard to drink without a mixer or sweetener hiding the taste.

as far as spirits go, whiskey is one of those ones where you have to invest a certain amount to get acceptable-tasting stuff. wine and gin are way more forgiving.

Last edited by uziq (2020-04-27 15:36:58)

nice to see you can be as dismissive of fellow alcohol drinkers as other chemical connoisseurs.

'i don't like it so it must be stupid/a fuss about nothing' - dilbert about everything.

were you breastfed into your 20s perchance? i've seen your psychological type before.

I was in Taipei for work and i sat down at the hotel bar after cabbing back from my meetings for the day. I always have a nightcap or two at the hotel bar when i'm traveling for work - when I'm overseas, it helps me sleep through the night, and it's a nice change from staring into the TV abyss or jerking off to make time go by. If you've never been to Taiwan or China, their hospitality game is pretty fucking top notch. I have many stories about being very well taken care of by hotel hospitality people when traveling there. This one is relevant to this thread.

I decide to order a Macallan 18 year (I think). Here I am, excited to be spending my per diem on a nice glass of whisky, when I notice the bartender struggling to open the bottle. Nothing out of the ordinary, I suppose. Maybe I'm basking in the glow of the Taiwan Beer I just consumed (Gold Medal, a really good lager!), but alarm bells did not go off until i saw bits of a cork in the fresh bottle. No matter, the incredibly capable bartender will come up with some ingenious solution heretofore hidden away in the taiwanese bartending culture. Then i see the bartender go to the dishwasher and pull out a freshly cleaned glass- a nice touch, I thought. Nothing but the best for the American traveler ordering top shelf whisky at the hotel bar. I see the bartender pour the cork-diseased liquid in to the sparkling clean glass. I'm no snob when it comes to alcohol, but even in my slightly inebriated state I started fidgeting with the salty peanut and cracker menagerie in front of me. The bartender lays the glass down, and I grab it suspiciously. The glass is noticeably warm! It was straight out of the dry-cycle! I had just been served a $25 glass of cork whisky in a hot glass!

I said nothing, afraid the obvious language barrier would lead to more caricatures of The American Traveler.

I also book everything to the room, because the hotels just add a line item "food and beverage" for each day instead of itemizing each purchase. That way my work has no idea that i'm spending my per diem on poorly made hotel bar quesadillas and hot 18 year olds.

uziq wrote:

anecdotally it seems people keep expensive whiskey or spirits for special occasions or sentimental value. people don't really invest in whiskey as a commodity/stock, do they?

It may be a smaller population, but it's out there.  I ran across a rare whisky auction/consignment website a few months ago where bottles of many spirituous beverages were available for purchase, including whiskys.  Some of them looked as if they'd been hauled up from shipwreck after being submerged for a century.  In fact, I'm pretty sure some had been.  Vintages at least as old as the mid-1700's were available.

I suspect it's a rather niche market.

rum and ginger beer was a staple of my student days, especially the hazier nights spent south of the river in london among what dilbert would no doubt find a frighteningly multi-cultural milieu. those nefarious caribs are really onto something!

to drink pimms you need a cricket pavilion, a university quad or a slow bend in the river with a meadow. pimms on a night out? at a party? absolutely not.

i spent many a summer day idling away reading pooehms with a pitcher of pimms here. i see your french chateau and raise you an english one.

if only i'd shelled kids in the middle-east for a few years, i could have been there on someone else's dime or tab, as well.

well cocktails are a very obvious exception, there. girls don't drink pints, really. and an increasing number of my male friends (increasingly portly, increasingly balding, increasingly middle-aged) opt for mixers over pints. it's not the gas that's the problem, it's the copious calories. lots of my friends who want to lose weight or get in shape without stopping the party-train switch to gin/vodka/rum.

i generally start my evenings/social occasions with a few pints but then switch to something else. being drunk and extremely full of liquid is not a good sensation. it's even worse on a hot sunny day.