the same website you linked gives literally the explicit advice that 'it's never safe to consume alcohol'. derp. every category of harm listed in that site, which are all valid and relevant, especially in cases of 'extreme doses', applies to alcohol. neurotoxicity, cardiovascular harm, liver damage -- what are you missing here?
the simple fact is that, in this thread, i've linked half a dozen studies or so, from multiple sources, different countries, government and non-government alike, that all state unequivocally that alcohol is worse for you than MDMA. whether considered solely as a chemical harm or matter of drug toxicity, or for addictive and abuse potentials, for harm to families and loved ones, for harm to society as a whole in terms of direct health burden and indirect economic costs, every single study says that alcohol is worse for you than MDMA, by some magnitude at that. it is ranked by almost every metric alongside drugs like heroin, cocaine and crystal meth in terms of harm. every single study i have linked, from those aforementioned objective sources, have ranked drugs like LSD, MDMA and magic mushrooms way behind your beloved tipple in terms of harm.
the only obstacle to this being a fairly conclusive and commonsense admission is that you appear to enjoy alcohol.
that drug legislation and laws, after decades of 'the war on drugs', are nonsensical and ideologically driven, doesn't exactly buoy your argument.
a whole category of drugs are being safely investigated for their potential to enhance people's lives, curing ills, addressing traumas -- in short, they are being acknowledged as safe chemicals that can be turned to medicine. that will unequivocally, again, never be the case for alcohol: alcohol has no possible medicinal benefits at all, because of its host of aforementioned negative qualities and pharmacological harms, which have been well-documented and acknowledged at length. all medical advice leans towards rhetoric of 'consume less', 'cut out alcohol completely' or 'enjoy a glass or two if you must with a meal'. no medical professional will ever prescribe or recommend taking up alcohol. that's because it's patently bad for you.
nobody has said that the above drugs, taken in extremes, are perfectly safe and fine. that's not how drugs work. i have said, pretty much consistently for years on this forum, that everyone runs a risk:benefit analysis when doing drugs. MDMA is statistically safer than riding a horse or firing a gun. you make your own informed choices, understanding that every drug has consequences. the fact is that alcohol is a much worse idea than MDMA. there is no such thing as alcohol consumption without short- and long-term consequences. even 1 or 2 drinks a night can have disruptive effects on your brain's sleep activity and sleep-cycle. you seem to view it as a drug that can be taken without any drawbacks ... because you consume it. it's easy to scarify research that discusses the effects of MDMA, but then you'll shrug off a hangover. what do you think is happening to your body and brain chemistry there, exactly?
the picture seems pretty clear to me. you're arguing against the expert opinion of several federal drug authorities, in the US, UK, australia, etc, who are all approving and trialling psychedelics for clinical use. i would suggest they know whether something can be safely made into a medicine or not. it's pretty amusing watching you accuse them all of 'being high on their own supply'. really? some of the top medical institutions and research universities in the world? the FDA?
i hope one day you take a trip, maaaan, and enjoy an afternoon with yourself and your own evidently flickering shadows. you might figure some things out and come out a less bitter and fearful person.
Last edited by uziq (2019-08-20 05:46:14)
