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2006-05-28 16:21:19

#101

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6880|USA

Bubbalo wrote:
Upsetting someone doesn't, causing a stampede *does*. And apparently your average human is not, in fact, any smarter than you average bear .

And if speeding doesn't harm anyone, why is there a law preventing it?

Well it is illegal to pass a note to the bank teller demanding all the money in the safe as a joke.....No one is harmed and there isn't a stampede. Why shouldn't we be free to do that??

LMAO....You see, this is the non-sense that you pull.......You go round and round until you think you have manuvered someone into stepping into your point.......and it is a pretty annoying way of debating an issue.

2006-05-28 18:10:16

#102

specops10-4: Member; +108|6972|In the hills

bubbalo and mikkel, you just dont get it do you?

Why cant people find a way to disagree with America another way, if you hate America so much that you burn the flag you have no right to live here. Burn pictures of Bush or stupid celebs, I wouldnt give a shit but it is a dis to the whole country and doing such should revoke your freedom.

Do anything to get your message across but this ONE way, there is no one forcing you to do it, so just write "America should burn in hell" instead, we can say that but it is not a violent action.

P.S.-people would probly do it in a city on the streets, which is illegal to do (i think)

2006-05-28 20:28:34

#103

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6790

lowing wrote:
Well it is illegal to pass a note to the bank teller demanding all the money in the safe as a joke.....No one is harmed and there isn't a stampede. Why shouldn't we be free to do that??

The Bank Teller could have a heart attack/stroke, or in future not take an actual threat seriously and end up shot.

lowing wrote:
LMAO....You see, this is the non-sense that you pull.......You go round and round until you think you have manuvered someone into stepping into your point.......and it is a pretty annoying way of debating an issue.

I make my point through reason and logic, then use reason and logic to prove the other wrong. What's so bad about that?

2006-05-28 20:32:59

#104

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6880|USA

Bubbalo wrote:
lowing wrote:
Well it is illegal to pass a note to the bank teller demanding all the money in the safe as a joke.....No one is harmed and there isn't a stampede. Why shouldn't we be free to do that??
The Bank Teller could have a heart attack/stroke, or in future not take an actual threat seriously and end up shot.

lowing wrote:
LMAO....You see, this is the non-sense that you pull.......You go round and round until you think you have manuvered someone into stepping into your point.......and it is a pretty annoying way of debating an issue.
I make my point through reason and logic, then use reason and logic to prove the other wrong. What's so bad about that?

Well then someone could have a heart attack and die at the sight of their flag being burned, so you are agreeing with me that it should be illegal..thx i win. good night. lol.........same manuvering as you try and use.

Last edited by lowing (2006-05-28 20:33:31)

2006-05-28 23:25:24

#105

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6790

Ah! But the difference is that telling a bank teller you are robbing the bank is misleading and threatening. Which is why waving a burning flag in someones face is illegal.

2006-05-28 23:33:33

#106

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6918|Tampa Bay Florida

Flag burning should be legal.

2006-05-28 23:38:35

#107

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

LOL. Wow. Burning a flag be illegal? If a protestor wishes to burn the flag, so be it. It's a dictatorial to force anything when it doesn't have a potential for illegality. Going above the speed limit because, in doing so, you raise the risk of a vehicle accident. Giving a teller a note threatening to rob the bank is ILLEGAL - making threats of kind about aggressive, harassing criminal conduct is illegal. Just because it poses some sentimental value to you doesn't mean someone shouldn't be able to do whatever with it that they wish (unless of course, it actually belongs to you). Could you call the cops and claim they are being threatening because they are burning a flag in front of your shop/house? Sure, but it still doesn't remove the fact that flag burning is an ability appropriatly accessible in such a free community.

2006-05-28 23:38:38

#108

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6790

Spearhead wrote:
Flag burning should be legal.

Brilliantly persuasive. It's not like you could, y'know, give a reason. We've had a five page discussion, and that's all you can say?

Edit: Including quote.

Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-05-29 00:25:16)

2006-05-29 00:20:18

#109

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

Bubbalo meant to quote Spearhead.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-05-29 00:27:09)

2006-05-29 00:24:37

#110

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6790

No, I meant Spearhead. Not you, though.

2006-05-29 00:25:30

#111

Jenspm: penis; +1,716|6961|St. Andrews / Oslo

uhmm, i don't see no question...

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2006-05-29 00:28:19

#112

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

The question was whether or not European society is superior than American society. The thread creator may be doin' somethin' funky...O_O

2006-05-29 00:41:38

#113

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6790

No, this is flag burning. America v Europe is down the hall, third left.

2006-05-29 02:16:27

#114

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

Yeah, whoops...kinda'...oblivious for a second >_< ..lmao

2006-05-29 03:02:03

#115

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6784

Flag burning is preferable to burning people. They're only expressing their dismay, disgruntlement, whatever. It shouldn't matter a toss to anyone and if you get upset by something so infantile then you're equally as infantile.

2006-05-29 03:07:20

#116

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

I don't really think that igniting incendiary materials is really fit for a description of infantilism. I don't really think getting upset over someone burning the US' flag is really comparable to infantilism either. This act is often just a showcase for a moral lacking.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-05-29 03:08:16)

2006-05-29 03:10:25

#117

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6784

I don't see the burning of flags as a morality issue. It's a piece of fabric with a design on it. That's it.

2006-05-29 03:32:28

#118

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

The flag of a country is always a symbol of the hardships it's endured through conception and formation, and to burn a flag, you spit on everything associated with that country.

2006-05-29 03:58:32

#119

anzus: Wheres the trigger?; +34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

If theres any austrlains saying it is ok to burn the flag I dare you to walk down to your local RSL club and burn the flag at the steps, all I can say is may god have mercy on your soul. No matter what your protesting against there will be blood.

2006-05-29 05:03:16

#120

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6790

I highly doubt it. Y'see, most Australian soldiers realise that violence isn't the answer, and have the sense to walk away from a fight.

2006-05-29 05:14:28

#121

anzus: Wheres the trigger?; +34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:
I highly doubt it. Y'see, most Australian soldiers realise that violence isn't the answer, and have the sense to walk away from a fight.

Ok I dare you. Please make sure channel 7 is there so I can watch.

2006-05-29 05:15:18

#122

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6784

Xietsu wrote:
The flag of a country is always a symbol of the hardships it's endured through conception and formation, and to burn a flag, you spit on everything associated with that country.

The symbol of the hardships endured by a coutnry should be enshrined in the freedom of any of its citizens to burn the flag of that country, if they so choose.

2006-05-29 05:17:35

#123

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

LOL. Dude...I'm talking about how burning a flag is immoral. Way to be irrelevant. Kind of ironic, seeing as, by all means, it's clearly decipherable that my post was in response to your,s claiming that such an action is one without attributes of immorality.

Last edited by Xietsu (2006-05-29 05:19:35)

2006-05-29 05:20:08

#124

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6784

I just simply don't think it's a morality issue. It's a difference of opinions that can't be bridged. I wouldn't give a toss if someone burned the Irish flag, even though I am a staunch nationalist/republican.

2006-05-29 05:34:09

#125

Xietsu: Banned; +50|6785

It has nothing to do with what beliefs you hold -- it has everything to do with the respect that you have for the hardships that the Irish have gone through throughout the entirety of their nation's course. By burning a flag, it's just like saying "I hold no respect for everything that is Irish". Unless you used it for warmth in a time of chilling need, then really, the fact of the matter is unavoidable. A flag stands for all that makes a country that country.

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