democracy...SuperJail Warden wrote:
She is an elected official. There is no one to report her to.
well, okay then. still could have simply gone to another "elected official".
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
Poll
Do you agree with the gay marriage approval in California?
| Yes | 67% | 67% - 112 | ||||
| No | 27% | 27% - 45 | ||||
| I don't know | 0% | 0% - 0 | ||||
| Plead the fifth | 3% | 3% - 5 | ||||
| Other? (Please State) | 1% | 1% - 3 | ||||
| Total: 165 | ||||||
well, okay then. still could have simply gone to another "elected official".
They (both the gay and straight couples being denied) could, but the law makes them all legally able to go anywhere in the US if they meet the requirements. That said, they shouldn't have to go anywhere else. This lady cannot inject her personal religious beliefs into her role as a government official
I have come round to the view that in modern politics the left-wing are just as bigoted, superior and anti-democratic as the right wing, certainly in America, probably Australia and its crept into the UK also now.Jay wrote:
The same people pushing for gay rights are the same people pushing for gun control, limits to free speech, punitive taxation on the wealthy and mass incarceration of the mentally ill. They're only coming around now on police reform, drug reform, prison reform, immigration reform etc.
We're left with dysfunctional bipolar politics and media divided along party party lines howling down anyone who says a word which doesn't fit with 'the agenda'.
The Australian education system is so stuffed with lefties and lesbians that we're now raising an entire generation of men who have been brainwashed and psychologically castrated, and no-one is allowed to speak about it.
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Or the Police, or the courts - elected officials aren't above the law - this isn't RussiaShahter wrote:
democracy...SuperJail Warden wrote:
She is an elected official. There is no one to report her to.
well, okay then. still could have simply gone to another "elected official".
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really? so gay rights and feminism have resulted in the castration of males? what a shame they can't exercise their unqualified superiority anymore. the crisis of modern masculinity!Dilbert_X wrote:
I have come round to the view that in modern politics the left-wing are just as bigoted, superior and anti-democratic as the right wing, certainly in America, probably Australia and its crept into the UK also now.Jay wrote:
The same people pushing for gay rights are the same people pushing for gun control, limits to free speech, punitive taxation on the wealthy and mass incarceration of the mentally ill. They're only coming around now on police reform, drug reform, prison reform, immigration reform etc.
We're left with dysfunctional bipolar politics and media divided along party party lines howling down anyone who says a word which doesn't fit with 'the agenda'.
The Australian education system is so stuffed with lefties and lesbians that we're now raising an entire generation of men who have been brainwashed and psychologically castrated, and no-one is allowed to speak about it.
That's not even true, Dil. I know plenty of chauvinistic, asshole dudes. You must be looking in the wrong place.
omg pretty much every single house of lords case pre-1960s.uziq wrote:
I don't know why that stuff annoys you. people bring frivolous lawsuits all the time. it's their democratic freedom to do so. if it goes thrown out of court and junked, that's the process rendering justice.
fucking supreme court cases over car park tickets wtf.
I didn't imply any cause or effect, its perfectly possible to have gay and feminist rights and equality in a functioning democracy.uziq wrote:
really? so gay rights and feminism have resulted in the castration of males? what a shame they can't exercise their unqualified superiority anymore. the crisis of modern masculinity!
What we have now is that the left are so hate-filled when is comes to normal heterosexual white men - see your post about 'ranting Neolithic whining whites' that they are trying to swing the pendulum so far beyond the centre that normal boys are being utterly marginalised in the educational system now.
Boys aren't doing welding, playing football, letting off fireworks - this is all bad and symbolic of the satanic paternal system which has afflicted the earth too long.
No, boys must do sewing, cooking and write essays on what it feels like to be an oppressed gay muslim illegal immigrant who is having his rights trampled on by stupid white men.
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stop trolling dilbs
first of all, i'm talking about liberalism here, the classical first principles of any democracy. you're ranting about 'the left', which is slightly shifting the goal-posts somewhat, as not only is no one discussing leftist politics/theory/ideology, realistically there are no left-wing western democracies currently in practice. so this whole rant about the left ruining society doesn't strike me as all that reasonable or measured. what left?! leftist politics is critical of liberalism and centrism; socialist and communist theory is anti-liberal. you're ranting about the erosion of (your) social values into a relativist and apologetic liberal middle-ground. this is fundamentally non-left in every way.Dilbert_X wrote:
I didn't imply any cause or effect, its perfectly possible to have gay and feminist rights and equality in a functioning democracy.uziq wrote:
really? so gay rights and feminism have resulted in the castration of males? what a shame they can't exercise their unqualified superiority anymore. the crisis of modern masculinity!
What we have now is that the left are so hate-filled when is comes to normal heterosexual white men - see your post about 'ranting Neolithic whining whites' that they are trying to swing the pendulum so far beyond the centre that normal boys are being utterly marginalised in the educational system now.
Boys aren't doing welding, playing football, letting off fireworks - this is all bad and symbolic of the satanic paternal system which has afflicted the earth too long.
No, boys must do sewing, cooking and write essays on what it feels like to be an oppressed gay muslim illegal immigrant who is having his rights trampled on by stupid white men.
so with that said, my own remarks were aimed at you being a Neolithic crybaby, not all white males (remarks not exactly made from a left-wing position, again). that's because you started ranting about 'liberal orthodoxy' (where's the left again?) silencing anyone over drug laws and 'slut deserved it' type rape cases. that sounds a little unhinged and ranty to me. especially when you start wielding your rhetorical shibboleth – the mystic buzzword thrown around by all self-serving bigots – 'rational debate'. you even started going on about how the 'hipster left' are changing the attitudes to drugs whilst foreclosing any rational debate. err the only advances that drug legalisation are making in any western democracy right now are on purely medical/scientific grounds: how can you get any more rational? it turns out it's not 'your' brand of 'rational', which again frankly makes you seem like a bit of a crackpot.
and now in this post you start going on about "boys don't do welding anymore they do sewing". again: what in the name of sweet fried fuck are you talking about? you sound like a hysterical daily mail reader from the 1950's. really dilbert? are THE LEFT imposing a socialist gender experiment where boys can't use power-tools anymore? this is absolutely inane. no, it's insane. and what does it have to do with gay rights and the struggle for LIBERAL REFORM, again? there is no left programme towards gender – Marxian theory doesn't recognise any stratification that isn't economic – and there are no left wing governments implementing any such scheme. in the UK the conservatives (those aren't the left wing guys fyi) are currently pushing apprenticeships and non-university paths way above anything else, as an alternative to their frankly suicidal university funding system, which is tanking and becoming a toxic debt burden (just like everyone said it would). that is, they're encouraging plenty of proles to pick up their hammers and sickles again and learn a trade. it's a political programme, of a sort... but it's not a left wing one. it's a profoundly right wing one. people from poor backgrounds should learn a manual trade, 'know their place', and drop any hope of attaining one of those expensive (effeminate?) university educations. that's just one example. I have no idea where you get these barmy ideas that 'men aren't men' anymore. I know about 5 people personally who have emigrated to Australia to do roofing and construction work. then again, they do all wear fake nails and heels...
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orly? and i've been told there's no one to report issues like that to in 'murika.Dilbert_X wrote:
Or the Police, or the courts - elected officials aren't above the law - this isn't RussiaShahter wrote:
democracy...SuperJail Warden wrote:
She is an elected official. There is no one to report her to.
well, okay then. still could have simply gone to another "elected official".
very well then.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
I mean, I know boys still can play football and light off fireworks so those points are moot, but I must ask, why welding?
It's infinitely less useful than both sewing and cooking unless we get into some sort of Mad Max situation (and even then, it's still not as essential).
It's infinitely less useful than both sewing and cooking unless we get into some sort of Mad Max situation (and even then, it's still not as essential).
dilbert shoots guns at target practice every weekend. he's the paranoiac australian version of those survivalists who stockpile AR-15's in montana because they're convinced the government are coming to take their tax, freedom, and testicles.
No I'm not, I know numerous teachers in the Australian education system and this is exactly what they say - the sisterhood has so thoroughly taken over education here that the next generation of men is going to be one of crying wimps who can't do anything at all without checking with a woman first that 'its OK'.
The bit about guns is true though.
The bit about guns is true though.
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DesertFox- wrote:
I mean, I know boys still can play football and light off fireworks so those points are moot, but I must ask, why welding?
It's infinitely less useful than both sewing and cooking unless we get into some sort of Mad Max situation (and even then, it's still not as essential).
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right...
This is our current state premier, who was previously education minister
http://www.premier.sa.gov.au/index.php/ … weatherill
I'm sorry but I can't take seriously a man who 'dated' an openly gay lesbian.
http://www.premier.sa.gov.au/index.php/ … weatherill
I'm sorry but I can't take seriously a man who 'dated' an openly gay lesbian.
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france is probably one of the best examples of a classic liberal democracy and they don't give two shits about their politicians' personal lives. even when they lead seemingly embarrassing ones or get caught cheating. ask a french citizen in the street and they'll say "why should i care?" why do you care about a man's private life? does it interest you so much? where do you find the time for all this specious concern. the whole focus on the private lives of the great and the good is a prurient media phenomenon. weren't you just rallying against the bullying and thuggish tendencies of the mass media earlier in this thread?
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I don't care about one bit about peoples personal lives unless it affects society or me.
On the one hand you're going off because a single clerk has abused her authority - and been punished accordingly, on the other you can't see why I'm annoyed that lesbians and feminazis have a death-grip on the education system and are using it to further their radical agenda - with serious effects on society as a whole.
You're saying in the same breath that its wrong and its A-OK - depending on which agenda is being furthered.
On the one hand you're going off because a single clerk has abused her authority - and been punished accordingly, on the other you can't see why I'm annoyed that lesbians and feminazis have a death-grip on the education system and are using it to further their radical agenda - with serious effects on society as a whole.
You're saying in the same breath that its wrong and its A-OK - depending on which agenda is being furthered.
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no, i said the clerk is welcome to her religious views as long as they don't affect her job or civic role. which they clearly did. your aussie MP is welcome to his sexual and private life so long as they don't affect his job or civic role. which they don't. how is this complicated?
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I have no idea what that is trying to insinuate, but I appreciate that it references the temporomandibular joints, though I highly doubt people who say things like "MAN CARD REVOKED" are aware of what it is.Dilbert_X wrote:
DesertFox- wrote:
I mean, I know boys still can play football and light off fireworks so those points are moot, but I must ask, why welding?
It's infinitely less useful than both sewing and cooking unless we get into some sort of Mad Max situation (and even then, it's still not as essential).
dilbert went to the UK's equivalent of MIT and is an engineer, but from the way he talks you'd think he passed out of west point or sandhurst or something. why is it that the 'men's rights' crowd tend to be fedora wearing reddit warriors, whose only muscle development is in their forearms from all the keyboard warring and jacking off?
If he's presiding over an education system dominated by bull-dyke lesbians who are using their position of authority to punish the world in general and mankind in particular for them not being borne with a dick then I'd say its affecting his civic role.uziq wrote:
no, i said the clerk is welcome to her religious views as long as they don't affect her job or civic role. which they clearly did. your aussie MP is welcome to his sexual and private life so long as they don't affect his job or civic role. which they don't. how is this complicated?
Wait a minute, I thought people's backgrounds and lifestyles weren't supposed to matter?dilbert went to the UK's equivalent of MIT and is an engineer, but from the way he talks you'd think he passed out of west point or sandhurst or something. why is it that the 'men's rights' crowd tend to be fedora wearing reddit warriors, whose only muscle development is in their forearms from all the keyboard warring and jacking off?
It seems you're confused and conflicted.
Basically it has now come down to 'four legs good, two legs bad' has become 'ethnic minority LGBT social justice warrior good, white male bad', and any means used to ram this down peoples throats are fine - but no-one else is allowed to use them.
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Some apt examples from the BBC front page.
Oh thank god, those poor people, they must have suffered terribly, thank god the perpetrator has been brought to justice.
Well that's just unacceptable, if there are two things we can't tolerate in the modern age its boys being boys or members of the military being lightly injured.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34155775'Holdout' Kentucky county issues gay marriage licences
Oh thank god, those poor people, they must have suffered terribly, thank god the perpetrator has been brought to justice.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34162336US cadets injured in pillow fight at prestigious academy
No disciplinary action has been taken against the cadets and there are no plans to end the yearly pillow fight which has taken place since at least 1897.
Well that's just unacceptable, if there are two things we can't tolerate in the modern age its boys being boys or members of the military being lightly injured.
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My curiousity gets the better of me and I would like to know just what this man or this alledged cadre of superlesbians have done to get your blood up so much.