BF2S Forums MMA Chatter Thread

Silva just went full Overeem

big fights this weekend

UFC 100.  But yes, it was a good card.

pathetic fight card this past weekend.

Ivan Kara wrote:

has anyone watched any of the glory cards on spike yet? I keep missing them but i heard they good.


kickboxing is the shit after all

I've seen a few of them.  They are hit or miss. I like Duke Roufus' commentary though

Machida vs. Mousasi on 2/15! I'll be on a plane though

Gegard is a pretty solid fighter though.  I've seen him absolutely woop on people, and his main weakness has been his wrestling - something Lyoto won't even fuck with.  I'm looking forward to this fight a lot.  Two counter punchers usually means a lot of feinting and pawing but I think they will both find some openings.  Plus I really like watching Gegard fight.

Flying to Taiwan this saturday, then to Hong Kong, then to Thailand for the weekend.  Just a quick business trip then stopping by Thailand to see my dad for a few days.

never paid for pussy and don't plan on starting

I am really sick of the hate people have for Jon Jones. I wonder what it is about Jones that people have to find every reason to criticize him.


Legal and very smart move. I have never seen someone use that in a match before.

There are a lot more cocky fighters than Jones. He doesn't taunt in the ring like Silva, Werdum, Nick, Nate, and a bunch of others. He is all business. He is on the road to being considered the greatest fighter of all time. Of course he has reason to confident. I understand the knee can be damaged by that kick but a person can be killed by head kick. It is bizarre to think hurting a knee is any worse than brain damage.


Speaking of Werdum, I totally was expecting Browne to knock him out. He did so well in that fight that I think he has a very solid chance at beating Cain. Then again, I'm very bias in his favor. He is my mancrush.

Chael failed a random drug test leading up to UFC 175.  That card is a shit show.  He's probably never fighting in the UFC again

Disagree.  Pride put on bad and good fights, it's just that the good fights were REALLY good.  There were plenty of freak show matches and FIXED fights(!!!!) in Pride.

Pride rules that were good and need to be adopted by the international MMA community:
no elbows on the ground
yellow cards/purse fines for inaction
Judging based on the entirety of the fight as opposed to round by round

Pride rules that were terrible:
No drug testing
freak shows across multiple weight classes
soccer kicks on the ground

etc etc.  I'm sure I missed a bunch but that's just off the top of my head.

PED/substance abuse cheating is wrong and there should be an effort to eradicate it as much as possible.  Your mindset is akin to the approach of many stupid American so-called neoliberals.  It's a very short-sighted approach to something that should be addressed as part of a long-term sustainability.  I usually hate to mix sports and politics or economics but I think the comparison is apt.

By the way, Chael retired today.

SuperJail Warden wrote:

You aren't a fan of soccer kicks? Most fights were stopped after a second or third kick anyway. Do you at least think knees to the head of ground opponents are fair? I can live with no soccer kicks if knees were allowed. I also think up kicks on grounded opponents should be allowed. Both of those changes would go a long way to stopping lay and pray. I love Damien Maia but it really pissed me off that he could shoot for 20 takedowns and not worry about getting knocked out for screwing one up. He was in the perfect position for a few in his fight with Rory.

The judging rules and yellow cards go back to the problem with commissions. The NSAC has too much power. Other promotions in the U.S. can't tinker with their rules unless NSAC decides it's a time to look at modifying the unified rule set. I think the heavyweight class should be openweight. I also liked the one night tournaments. How do you feel about both of those?

All things considered, if you had the choice between the UFC using its current rule set or going full Pride, would you really stick with the unified rule set? Drug testing and fixed fights obviously aside.

I'm fine with that. I never liked him as a person or fighter.

no, soccer kicks are super dangerous and shouldn't be in the game.  Same with knees to the head of downed opponents.  You're just asking for head/neck trauma and potential paralyzation if those were allowed.

Lay and Pray can be resolved by the use of yellow cards.  There's a difference between trying to improve position and just laying on top of a guy.  There are existing rules to deal with this, the refs just need to actually enforce them.  Just recently there was a fight stopped due to timidity of one of the fighters...that's a good thing.

Open weight is good for a grappling match, bad once you start allowing strikes.  I do think they should have a super heavyweight class, but that's usually fatties like Tim Sylvia and Bob Sapp who are more freaks than athletes.

I really liked one night tournaments too.  I'd like to see those come back, but there is definitely a health risk involved in allowing people to get hit in the head a bunch in one night.  It's a tough idea to navigate through - how do you appease the fans, promoters and fighters while still maintaining fighter safety?

The commissions are supposed to be there for fighter safety, insurance and to help make sure fighters get paid.  In addition to all the rules regarding fighting, they also regulate the promoters and handle financial arrangements (like putting the fighters' show money into escrow accounts to make sure they don't get stiffed), coordinate insurance payments and liability, etc.  I like the idea of regulation.  The NSAC has the power they do simply because of experience.  They are the de facto leader because most fights in the US happen in Las Vegas.  The NJSAC was actually the first athletic commission to adopt the unified rules, so it's not like the Nevada commission has always taken the lead.  It's actually the opposite of what you describe - there is no unified body regulating MMA in the US or the world, for that matter.  You have to get changes from the outside done on a commission by commission basis as opposed to one regulating body adopting rule changes.  People in the industry just tend to adopt rule-sets proposed by the NSAC because they have a lot of experience and therefore tend to allocate more resources into trying to better the sport.