ah, so guy's a sociopath. okay, that's nothing unusual indeed, as are the facts that his students aren't really fond of him and his books on history are pulled from the curriculum.SuperJail Warden wrote:
Igor Dolutsky finds nothing unusual in disagreeing with everyone around him.
right.http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/3c8495d0-c0ba-11e3-a74d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2z5p00ON7
what a lovely sounding place to live. more western propaganda
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They're either state owned or they follow the status quo. Nobody really wants to get shot in an elevator.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
It's actually media propaganda by definition, isn't it? I mean, if that isn't a clear example of propaganda, what is? Are you saying the individual media outlets were bamboozled by the guy they interviewed? Aren't at least two of the news sources Russian state-owned media?
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let me make this quite clear for you: i totally agree that russia does propaganda - in state controlled media, in non-state controlled media, all information manipulation tools and resources are engaged. and sometimes they do fuckup - hilariously in some cases, as you rightly pointed out.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
It's actually media propaganda by definition, isn't it? I mean, if that isn't a clear example of propaganda, what is?
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yeah we know, it's just you dismiss every single western news source as "biased western propaganda." We know their purpose but at least they don't have guys on the ground making shit up as they go.Shahter wrote:
er it is they have for heads, that everybody uses those information manipulation tools, including so called "enlightened west". in fact, the west is a lot more experienced, technologically advanced, and thus more effective at it than anybody else.
but that's what they are - biased western propaganda. like every other media, they report what they are paid (or otherwise made) to report. add 2 and 2 already.Cybargs wrote:
yeah we know, it's just you dismiss every single western news source as "biased western propaganda."Shahter wrote:
er it is they have for heads, that everybody uses those information manipulation tools, including so called "enlightened west". in fact, the west is a lot more experienced, technologically advanced, and thus more effective at it than anybody else.
they do.they don't have guys on the ground making shit up as they go.
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Yeah show me where the west has backed "local militias" with new anti tank weapons and APCs with brand new uniforms. you should really read stopfake.org, but then again youd think its western propaganda.Shahter wrote:
but that's what they are - biased western propaganda. like every other media, they report what they are paid (or otherwise made) to report. add 2 and 2 already.Cybargs wrote:
yeah we know, it's just you dismiss every single western news source as "biased western propaganda."Shahter wrote:
er it is they have for heads, that everybody uses those information manipulation tools, including so called "enlightened west". in fact, the west is a lot more experienced, technologically advanced, and thus more effective at it than anybody else.they do.they don't have guys on the ground making shit up as they go.
this is not even funny. the west have been backing anybody and everybody who they thought could be useful to them, with weapons and everything, for, like, forever.Cybargs wrote:
Yeah show me where the west has backed "local militias" with new anti tank weapons and APCs with brand new uniforms.
no, thanks, kiddie, i have a head of my own, and make good use of it. you should try using yours some time.you should really read stopfake.org
so youre admitting theyre russian soldiers and not local militia?Shahter wrote:
this is not even funny. the west have been backing anybody and everybody who they thought could be useful to them, with weapons and everything, for, like, forever.Cybargs wrote:
Yeah show me where the west has backed "local militias" with new anti tank weapons and APCs with brand new uniforms.
who am i - or who are you for that matter - to be admitting anything here? you don't know squat about what's happening in ukraine, plain and simple. i know a bit more, because i personally know a lot of people who live in there, but that's not enough to be "admitting" anything.Cybargs wrote:
so youre admitting theyre russian soldiers and not local militia?
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lawl nazis performing a coup in ukraine. thats pretty rich.Shahter wrote:
is russia backing up those who try to resist nazies who performed a coup in ukraine?
i dont see al qaeda roaming freely in libya and egypt and have fun being a radical islamist under the military control in egypt. the west has not supplied any weapons to the rebels in syria. sure the UK has sent food and kevlar but nothing major as sending goddamn spetznaz on the ground and prop up secessionist movements.Shahter wrote:
uh-huh. "enlightened west" backing al-qaeda in in lybia, egypt and syria - and now backing nazies in ukraine. who would've thought?
spetznaz on the ground my ass.Cybargs wrote:
i dont see al qaeda roaming freely in libya and egypt and have fun being a radical islamist under the military control in egypt. the west has not supplied any weapons to the rebels in syria. sure the UK has sent food and kevlar but nothing major as sending goddamn spetznaz on the ground and prop up secessionist movements.
yeah because russia would send in regular conventional soldiers to stir up unrest in ukraine right?Shahter wrote:
spetznaz on the ground my ass.Cybargs wrote:
i dont see al qaeda roaming freely in libya and egypt and have fun being a radical islamist under the military control in egypt. the west has not supplied any weapons to the rebels in syria. sure the UK has sent food and kevlar but nothing major as sending goddamn spetznaz on the ground and prop up secessionist movements.
keep chewing on the line of crap fed to you by your "free press".
yeah because random people have access to latest russian uniforms right.Shahter wrote:
that's not even funny. gloves, masks, uniforms and... beards are now "evidence"? k.
