Poll

What should the US do about the Iran situation?

Continue pressing for UN Security Council Sanctions17%17% - 21
Use Backchannel diplomacy through Russia9%9% - 12
Launch a conventional Invasion8%8% - 10
Let Israel handle it13%13% - 16
Nuke them into the Stone Age27%27% - 33
Nothing24%24% - 30
Total: 122
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:

I suppose I should have expected that from someone named anzus.  Please tell both your name and statement are sarcastic?
No & NO.

Johnny does want to be President, no make that dictator of australia.
Little weasel couldnt lie straight in bed even if he had a fat chicks lying on him... He already has plans to change our national anthem to god bless G Dubbya Bush.
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|6993|Dallas

Bubbalo wrote:

Well president of what, then?  Autralian elections will likely happen late 2007, and we have no president.
I really hope you die in an explosion of some sort in the near future.........

Last edited by Cougar (2006-05-26 05:48:06)

anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:

Well president of what, then?  Autralian elections will likely happen late 2007, and we have no president.
this guys got no sense of humour!

Matie laugh a little it wont hurt...
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6797|Oxford
email him?

[email protected]

It's his real address....anyone want Bush's?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790
I'm sorry if I refuse to laugh at pathetic attempts at humour made by a bigot who usually can't prove his points, and so resorts to name calling.  Really, I am.

And I never said little Johnny didn't have aspirations, but you seriously think we should go into Iran to get ourselves in good w/ the US?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6880|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Iran and its govt. is not a responsible govt. According to your, logic, why shouldn't Hamas have nukes, the US has them? There is no way you believe all of the bullshit you post on here Bubbalo. You have to try and reach so far down into the barrel to pull out an arguement that it is almost comical. As a matter of fact, it IS comical.
You know what I love about you lowing?  Your ability to cut straight through the majority of what I say and respond to the least important point.  It's like you just can't see that which you can't say is wrong, and just ignore it.  It's like a four-year old.  How cute!

Now, to responde:

lowing wrote:

Iran and its govt. is not a responsible govt.
How do you figure they aren't responsible?

lowing wrote:

According to your, logic, why shouldn't Hamas have nukes, the US has them?
Other than the fact that Hamas is a terrorist organisation?  Your logic is flawed.  If you were to say that G.W. Bush has his own personal stash of nukes, then this would become an issue.

As to why Palestine shouldn't:  Given that Israel has nukes, I don't see why they shouldn't.  If Israel were to disarm, that might be a different story.

Iran has no ongoing hostilities with any nation, and is one of the most stable governments in the Middle East.

anzus wrote:

you left out one option, send in the Aussies! well sort em out!
I say again:  numbers.  We don't have them.  We could maybe go in under cover of night to place a few bombs.  But then, I don't see why we should.
Iran: Since the president of Iran is an ex-hostage taker from 1979, AND he openly and publicly calls for the destruction of Israel, their govt, isn't a responsible govt.

Hamas: NOT ONLY are they a terrorist organization, they are ALSO the legally ELECTED govt. for the Palistinians. Based on this, and your logic, they SHOULD be allowed to have NUKES., "because the US has them".

Last edited by lowing (2006-05-26 15:22:06)

BN
smells like wee wee
+159|6997

Bubbalo wrote:

but you seriously think we should go into Iran to get ourselves in good w/ the US?
Fuck that, The USA is on its last legs. Bye bye petro dollar, $9 trillion debt ceiling, war costs,  lunatic at the helm.

Let’s align ourselves with China. They are going to be the world’s next super power. Get in quick I reckon.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

lowing wrote:

Iran: Since the president of Iran is an ex-hostage taker from 1979, AND he openly and publicly calls for the destruction of Israel, their govt, isn't a responsible govt.
Actually, the Iranian president has never taken hostages.  Students have.  And besides, it could be *very* easily argued that every citizen in Iran led Pahlavi as a hostage.  Regardless, is it irresponisble for a government to ake all necessary measures to bring criminals to justice?

lowing wrote:

Hamas: NOT ONLY are they a terrorist organization, they are ALSO the legally ELECTED govt. for the Palistinians. Based on this, and your logic, they SHOULD be allowed to have NUKES., "because the US has them".
No, by my logic Palestine should be allowed nukes.  I feel I should remind the Israel is the aggressor.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6880|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

Iran: Since the president of Iran is an ex-hostage taker from 1979, AND he openly and publicly calls for the destruction of Israel, their govt, isn't a responsible govt.
Actually, the Iranian president has never taken hostages.  Students have.  And besides, it could be *very* easily argued that every citizen in Iran led Pahlavi as a hostage.  Regardless, is it irresponisble for a government to ake all necessary measures to bring criminals to justice?

lowing wrote:

Hamas: NOT ONLY are they a terrorist organization, they are ALSO the legally ELECTED govt. for the Palistinians. Based on this, and your logic, they SHOULD be allowed to have NUKES., "because the US has them".
No, by my logic Palestine should be allowed nukes.  I feel I should remind the Israel is the aggressor.
No Bubbalo, in 1979 the Iranian president WAS one of the hostage takers. It is a fact. Sorry

If you think Nukes should be in the hands of Hamas then you are warped beyond all reason and I am done discussing this with ya.

Last edited by lowing (2006-05-26 22:53:23)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790
No, it was later proven that he was aware of what the students were planning.  I still fail to see how taking hostages makes them irresponsible.

When have I ever said that Hamas should have nukes?  I have said the *if* Israel have nukes, Palestine should, but I feel Israel shouldn't.  I thought I made all this pretty clear.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA

BornToKill67 wrote:

andy12 wrote:

Nuke them.I'd like them to get nuked nothing interesting happening in the news nowadyas.
Then it starts into a huge nuclear world war and everyone dies because of all the radiation.
but that would be interesting no?
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

kr@cker wrote:

BornToKill67 wrote:

andy12 wrote:

Nuke them.I'd like them to get nuked nothing interesting happening in the news nowadyas.
Then it starts into a huge nuclear world war and everyone dies because of all the radiation.
but that would be interesting no?
What would be more interesting is seeing which idiot news reporter would get there first just to get the story and soon realize shit I'm dying from radiation. CNN for the win!
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA
Take the leash of the Israeli war dogs, they are playing by the rules, only reacting when a bus full of shoppers gets bombed, and catching hell for it. How did the 7 days war go? One israeli infantry division holding off all egypts armour? Someone help me I'm a little fuzzy and cant find a quick reference, God all my books on these things are in the attic.


Damn you anzus, I REALLY want to click on the bad one just to see.
)ONS(Geordo
Member
+12|6786|whitehorse, yukon
why hasn't anyone suggested 'duck and cover'?  in respects to the code seven battlefield vid
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

kr@cker wrote:

Take the leash of the Israeli war dogs, they are playing by the rules, only reacting when a bus full of shoppers gets bombed, and catching hell for it. How did the 7 days war go? One israeli infantry division holding off all egypts armour? Someone help me I'm a little fuzzy and cant find a quick reference, God all my books on these things are in the attic.


Damn you anzus, I REALLY want to click on the bad one just to see.
Go on just click it, I KNOW you want to!

ANd yes let Israel throw the first punch then the US can go in for the glory.
Cold Fussion
72% alcohol
+63|6896|Sydney, Australia

ShreksEsel wrote:

@Cold Fussion:
I didn't know Germany had nuclear weapons... Since when? I'm leaving the country since our constitution doesn't seem to have any weight anymore...

@Americans in this Forum:
What is it about Europe, that most Americans in this forum have a problem with? Just interested...
I don't know if they do, hence the question mark I would think they do though.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6911|Canada
In case you didn't know various armies including US/UK ARE and HAVE BEEN using nuclear weapons for the last 15 years.  Somehow, quite surprisingly, this never makes the news in the light of the 'crisis' that is Iran attempting to enter the latter half of the 20th century.  This is nothing more than a case of jock itch.  Basically, the west is allowed to shit all over people in the middle east on the grounds of using weapons the US/UK  (edit) already use anyway.  How ridiculous.  Do nothing.  It surprises me that so many of you can justify using nukes because a country might think about developing them.  You must be planning on invading Canada, Australia, Brazil, France, The Ukraine (Chernobyl was obviously a terrorist attack), or any other developed nation enriching uranium.  In addition, let's not forget who were the USA's buddies back in the afghan war.  Iranians hate Russia btw *just to remind you* they hate all nations that threaten them and act upon them based on allegations placed against a 'handful of twats'  - well put btw.  You could scream bloody mary at the moon until your fucking face goes red, but that won't change how hypocritical this situation really is. 

I urge you, before you say anything about Iranian nukes, to ask where the pics are coming from, to make sure it isn't from some fucking hack's basement. 
Also read about the process by which nuclear power is developed.  You will find they are following a conservative strategy less threatening than the vast productions that were missile and warhead development used by the USA. 

Imagine some kid holding a rock in a playground.  Imagine another kid sitting on a pile of similar rocks.  The 1st kid looks like he might throw a rock, so the second kid throws all of his at the other kid's head screaming "you aren't allowed to have rocks".  Never mind whether that kid was throwing it he was only holding it.  Oh and the second kid has spent all lunch hour throwing rocks at all the other kids and teachers.  I'd hate to say it but it reminds me of some ppl I play bf2 against, punishing tking etc.  I'd hate to draw parallels to the world scene by comparing it to a schoolyard but that might be the only way half the people on here might even approach understanding it.

Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-05-27 00:19:16)

ReDmAn_ThE_uNiQuE
oh hai :D
+156|6880|The Netherlands
Let iran have the bom... howmany do you have... so why can't iran have 1...
every country next to iran got the boms they are feeling attacked so they make one.. we would do the same.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6911|Canada
let me tell you about a legal concept called 'precedent'.
This is a word used to describe history.  As soon as a judge deems judgement on a case, it becomes precedent.  If something was legal yesterday, and nothing has changed, the situations are the same, then that thing must also be legal today.  The Bush government is slowly setting precedent that cannot be undone.  Some of the cornerstones of 'freedom' have been rewritten, and some ignored.  This is a new precedent.  It may now be fair and legal, in the USA, to react with violently destructive force.  As a citizen of the USA, you may be losing your ability to change the government.  Therefore that government is slowly falling down that ideological slider toward totalitarianism.  It is now legal to use nukes unjustified.  What is more shocking however, is how readily some people take to the stupid answer to this poll.

Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-05-27 00:28:28)

kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6778|Southeastern USA

Spumantiii wrote:

.  What is more shocking however, is how readily some people take to the stupid answer to this poll.
I know, a whopping 17% for the UN? All the Viagra in the world couldn't get that bunch of cluster fornicating narcoleptic primates to get any action.
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

kr@cker wrote:

Spumantiii wrote:

.  What is more shocking however, is how readily some people take to the stupid answer to this poll.
I know, a whopping 17% for the UN? All the Viagra in the world couldn't get that bunch of cluster fornicating narcoleptic primates to get any action.
ROFL so true its funny
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

kr@cker wrote:

Take the leash of the Israeli war dogs, they are playing by the rules, only reacting when a bus full of shoppers gets bombed, and catching hell for it. How did the 7 days war go? One israeli infantry division holding off all egypts armour? Someone help me I'm a little fuzzy and cant find a quick reference, God all my books on these things are in the attic.


Damn you anzus, I REALLY want to click on the bad one just to see.
Oh yes, blowing up civilian sports stadiums.  *Way* within the rules.
anzus
Wheres the trigger?
+34|6872|Wangaratta, Australia

Bubbalo wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

Take the leash of the Israeli war dogs, they are playing by the rules, only reacting when a bus full of shoppers gets bombed, and catching hell for it. How did the 7 days war go? One israeli infantry division holding off all egypts armour? Someone help me I'm a little fuzzy and cant find a quick reference, God all my books on these things are in the attic.


Damn you anzus, I REALLY want to click on the bad one just to see.
Oh yes, blowing up civilian sports stadiums.  *Way* within the rules.
you really have no clues in life do you!
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790
So you're saying that attacking civilian complex with military helicopts is OK?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

_j5689_ wrote:

Nuke 'em, we have too many other things to worry about and it's so much more simple when you don't have to deal with them anymore.........ever.
You ever though maybe people like this are the reason Iran doesn't trust America.

That and the whole supporting dictatorships thing.

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