Poll

European society is superior to US society. Do you agree?

Yes, what a stupid question!56%56% - 94
No, keep widening that gap between rich and poor!43%43% - 73
Total: 167
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6784
Europe rewards hard work but makes sure the vast majority of its citizens don't get left behind. In Europe we generally work to live, not live to work.
In USA you can go from successful to destitute in the bat of an eyelid. In USA the bottom line is the dollar - life can take a back seat.

Which system do you prefer?
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6964|California
I would justify this with an answer, but it is 10000% biased from the get go.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6826|Seattle

Eat poo.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Lib-Sl@yer
Member
+32|6942|Wherever the F**k i feel like
This is wrong because its not a sociological thing its a choice of economic sytems. Basiclly you are trying to say that capitalism is worse than communism. As in capitalism the gap between the rich and the poor grows. But i have one question have u ever heard of the U.S. welfare system created in the 30's?
chittydog
less busy
+586|7064|Kubra, Damn it!

Erkut.hv wrote:

I would justify this with an answer, but it is 10000% biased from the get go.
Good call.
remo
Member
+20|6805
Um, both sides practice capitalism?

Greed is the difference here.  Individual greed, corporate greed, etc.  Not all Americans are in it for the money.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6784

Lib-Sl@yer wrote:

This is wrong because its not a sociological thing its a choice of economic sytems. Basiclly you are trying to say that capitalism is worse than communism. As in capitalism the gap between the rich and the poor grows. But i have one question have u ever heard of the U.S. welfare system created in the 30's?
Are you suggesting the EU is a communist regime!? I assume not.

The gap exists in europe sure but is neither as massive or as obvious as it is in the US (as was made transparently obvious after the New Orleans disaster). Our taxes are paying for a nicer society in which to live, with fewer social ills.
skywalker107
Member
+2|6808
Dude, That is a loaded Question but as being an American I have to say they both have positives and negatives.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790
Erkut has a point.  You initial assumptions lead respondents to an answer.  Your states truths make the choice obvious, and as such leave no room for debate.  You need to learn to make nuetral questions.
Pinto
Member
+13|6808

CameronPoe wrote:

Lib-Sl@yer wrote:

This is wrong because its not a sociological thing its a choice of economic sytems. Basiclly you are trying to say that capitalism is worse than communism. As in capitalism the gap between the rich and the poor grows. But i have one question have u ever heard of the U.S. welfare system created in the 30's?
Are you suggesting the EU is a communist regime!? I assume not.

The gap exists in europe sure but is neither as massive or as obvious as it is in the US (as was made transparently obvious after the New Orleans disaster). Our taxes are paying for a nicer society in which to live, with fewer social ills.
EU is not communist, however is more socialist than the US.  Communism=political while Socialism=economical, which the poster probably got those mixed up.

(Note--I'm not saying the EU is socialist, just more socialist than the US.)

Last edited by Pinto (2006-05-26 09:35:54)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7000|PNW

Bubbalo wrote:

Erkut has a point.  You initial assumptions lead respondents to an answer.  Your states truths make the choice obvious, and as such leave no room for debate.  You need to learn to make nuetral questions.
Seconded. Statements made after poll choices leave very little option for reasonable votes.
d3v1ldr1v3r13
Satan's disciple on Earth.
+160|6914|Hell's prison
Basic breakdown of the poll question, "Na-na-na-na-naaa, Our economic system and way of life are better than yours, pfffffffftttt!!!"

Its really an unfair question, just makes it sound like what is commonly known as a European stereotype, (from what i hear) that Europeans are snot nosed stuck ups, and in the hundreds of Europeans over the years ive met, maybe 5 or 6 of them actually think America in this way.  The point is, this is how we choose to live, I choose to serve in the military, its my choice, no one signed the paper but me.  And I know once I become a civilian, ill have to fight my way to the top and trample the weak to get there.  A cold assumption, but in business its survival of the fittest.  So please I ask that you NOT make yourself sound like an ass, and just at least you could have made it a fair and neutral question.  Sorry if I was a little brutal, but i hate when people think they are better than other people, we are all human with different lifestyles, get over it.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6945
not on poor ppls side, no. if there werent riots in france, then i would say maybe its better, but american society is pretty good. just except for some idiots.
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mikkel
Member
+383|6830
There's really no such thing as "European society". Society is different in all European countries. Personally, I'm from Denmark, and I'm completely sick of Danish society, Danish culture and Danish taxes. I'm moving to the US to live with my fiancée when I'm done with college, however if I had the money, and the language barrier wasn't a problem, we'd move to Italy instead.
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6964|California
Some fugga -1'd me for pointing out the obvious?
sheggalism
Member
+16|6971|France
i was wandering around the net and found that picture :

https://www.economysizegeek.com/wp-photos/461.jpg The main difference between Europe and US

Is European Society superior to US society ? that's a dumb question, how could say that a society is "superior" to another one ? they all have drawbacks and advantages, mix them up and create the perfect utopia...

as for "riots" in France, it's nothing, let alone comparable to 1992 Los Angeles or 60's Detroit ones....just overmediatised events...
HeavyMetalDave
Metal Godz
+107|6886|California
Guess you never saw TEAM AMERICA!
What a dumb question.

If Europe is sooo great, America never would have been found.

So stick to your crooked teeth, crumpets and tea.

What has Europe done for the world in the last 50 years?

I can only think of 3 things that you gave us, Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing (Two of them ended up in Star Wars)

Money isnt everything, most of us live for Justice, Freedom and the pursuit of Happiness.

Guess you really cant understand unless you live here, its quite the Utopian Society.

AMERICA  FUCK YEAH!
^*AlphA*^
F*ckers
+3,135|6967|The Hague, Netherlands

HeavyMetalDave wrote:

Guess you never saw TEAM AMERICA!
What a dumb question.

If Europe is sooo great, America never would have been found.

So stick to your crooked teeth, crumpets and tea.

What has Europe done for the world in the last 50 years?

I can only think of 3 things that you gave us, Vincent Price, Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing (Two of them ended up in Star Wars)

Money isnt everything, most of us live for Justice, Freedom and the pursuit of Happiness.

Guess you really cant understand unless you live here, its quite the Utopian Society.

AMERICA  FUCK YEAH!
hahaha yeah suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure m8. why only look at 50 years
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BruceNighttrain
Member
+12|6873|Denver/CO
America....FUCK YEAH..here to save the mutha fuckin day yeaa!

Last edited by BruceNighttrain (2006-05-26 10:13:33)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6790

Pinto wrote:

EU is not communist, however is more socialist than the US.  Communism=political while Socialism=economical, which the poster probably got those mixed up.

(Note--I'm not saying the EU is socialist, just more socialist than the US.)
No, communism is economic.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6872
whatever.  thats why im over here and your over there, get over it.
yuck7777
Member
+12|7003|USA
If it wasn't for America you all would be speaking German or Russian. How soon you all forget over there. So quick to bash the county that saved your asses. Our society's both have there faults. But if European society was superior I would think that we wouldn't have to keep giving billions of dollar to keep your superior society afloat.
And before you think that I don't like Europeans let me just say that my family came to America from Germany right after Hitler took power because they didn't want to be part of what he wanted. And they also helped liberate Europe by joining the American army and fought against there own people.
I've never been to Europe ,but someday would love to visit.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6826|Seattle

yuck7777 wrote:

If it wasn't for America you all would be speaking German or Russian. How soon you all forget over there. So quick to bash the county that saved your asses. Our society's both have there faults. But if European society was superior I would think that we wouldn't have to keep giving billions of dollar to keep your superior society afloat.
And before you think that I don't like Europeans let me just say that my family came to America from Germany right after Hitler took power because they didn't want to be part of what he wanted. And they also helped liberate Europe by joining the American army and fought against there own people.
I've never been to Europe ,but someday would love to visit.
Well put.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7066
He seems to think Europe is one big country.
Itchy_nuts
Member
+11|6775
Your ass crack must be wider than your mouth or the same with the BS that’s coming out of  it Just cause you got a Queen Don’t Make you Cool you Fucking Faggot

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