should I sail from michigan to seattle in a sailboat?
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wheres the fun in that?Jay wrote:
Northwest Passage!
(seriously, just have it transported )
I am entirely willing to accept that excellence does not have to occur within the already acclaimed institutions. It just seems to me that based on their method for determining that excellence with the criteria of, "the excellence of the Institution’s work in the proposed discipline 1-20 points; the recognition the discipline has gained, nationally and internationally, regardless of how long it has been studied 1-20 points; and Other factors, such as the chance to mark a significant event in the history of the institution or discipline 1-4 points," that it was designed specifically to exclude ocbridge. That is, I know they wouldn't deserve to win even a majority of the awards regardless of the selection criteria, but given the criteria that were used, I would say that each chair may have well been called the "boost lesser known institutions' reputation award".Uzique The Lesser wrote:
because oxbridge have been 'the' seats of excellence since like the 15th century. although their reputations carry them to the top of world rankings, a large part of it is 'brand' factor. there are a good 20 universities in the UK that all give oxbridge a run for their money, academically, especially in specific subjects/specialities... of course, employer prospects are another thing, and are often divorced from factual reality (constituting something more of a 'social fact' or truth, i suppose). for e.g. rhul is the best in the country for the (academic) study of music. warwick is leagues ahead when it comes to maths. imperial college trumps oxbridge at engineering. manchester's physics department has just as illustrious a history - of discovery, invention, nobel prizes, etc. - as cambridge's cavendish. etc.etc. oxbridge is like harvard-yale: massive names, massive research budgets, massive funding allocation. but the giants aren't always the best. even at traditional-high subjects, like history, or english, they're not the best. york and durham in the uk are two universities that barely grace the world top100, and they are both ahead of oxbridge in english literature - something you'd perhaps find surprising, considering oxbridge's whole 'image' is the quiet peaceful quads and contemplative lit/philosophy types swanning around, etc.. it's just not that simplistic.Pochsy wrote:
Interesting. Why didn't a Cambridge or Oxford department win a single one of these chairs if they are awarded based on excellence?Uzique The Lesser wrote:
http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/news/queen-awards-prestigious-regius-professorships-twelve-universities
pretty cool m8
big up the arts and humanities posse
as much as oxbridge gets fetishised and fawned over - particularly by international students with a simplistic, tourist-eye view - they are not the be all and end all. i'm going to oxford cause it has the largest funding budget. for literature - modern literature especially - i'd possibly be better off going to york, or staying in the university of london and switching departments to the university college.
i welcome the fact that universities outside of the 'superunis', which already hoard quite enough media attention and public finance, are finally getting celebrated.
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Did you read your own article? I copy and pasted that shit. That's the method provided. Take it up with the Queen who endorsed it.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
you are stupid. why are you talking about something you know nothing about. 1-20 scales?
Solid. I think I conceded that point, so let's move on.Uzique The Lesser wrote:
oxbridge isn't the best when it comes to many subjects.
I hadn't realized each university could only hold a single chair within a single department for all of time. "You are, for all eternity, marked as the preeminent institution for X." It speaks nothing to their current status? Shit man, even Nobel Prize winners can hold more than one. We'll not let sour the chair's mark of prestige. I'm just saying if you're not even competing with the whole pool, how do you know you're the best?Uzique The Lesser wrote:
oxbridge has had a regius professorship since like, the middle-ages. it doesn't get another because a university only gets one each. the ancient universities got theirs back in, like, 1600. there have been 14 given out since then.
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>Watching 30 RockJay wrote:
Just watched the 30 Rock finale and I am not sad.
"Ice" knowing you, bear.Jay wrote:
Northwest Passage!
(seriously, just have it transported )
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