Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6850|London, England
Yeah, I try to avoid servers with instant vehicle respawn. Breaks the game.

They really fucking smacked the Jets with the nerfhammer in the recent PC patch. I guess so many people complained about Stinger/IGLA being weak, now they are back to disabling with one hit. But wait, there's more! Jets have also had flares reload time doubled, Air Radar only shows air units not even friendly air units (bug), range has been reduced. Rocket pods accuracy has been decreased. -_-

On the flipside, cannons are stronger vs helicopters and other jets. They nerfed the anti-ground capabilities of the jet. Buffed the anti-air capabilities of the ground. And buffed the anti-air capabilities of the jet. It's not really balanced in any way though.

I might try ECM Jammer more now, especially if its reload time is quicker than flares.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6882
that's a load of shit mek tbh

I played a few full rounds in a jet last night and found I was more buffed than nerfed

the missiles are still accurate, they've just changed the way aiming works. They're now much more powerful and I was disabling tanks with a single rocket barrage from over 500 height and half a map away. really really good

They've also increased the amount of damage you can take before being disabled, it's somewhere around 35 health now. I've actually switched back to flares instead of using the extinguisher

before the patch, taking down a competent AA vehicle was impossible, you simply couldn't do enough damage. now you can kill them from so far away they can't actually shoot back.

it's all pretty good so far except how unbelievably OP jets are against helicopters now
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5265|Massachusetts, USA

Lucien wrote:

that's a load of shit mek tbh

I played a few full rounds in a jet last night and found I was more buffed than nerfed

the missiles are still accurate, they've just changed the way aiming works. They're now much more powerful and I was disabling tanks with a single rocket barrage from over 500 height and half a map away. really really good

They've also increased the amount of damage you can take before being disabled, it's somewhere around 35 health now. I've actually switched back to flares instead of using the extinguisher

before the patch, taking down a competent AA vehicle was impossible, you simply couldn't do enough damage. now you can kill them from so far away they can't actually shoot back.

it's all pretty good so far except how unbelievably OP jets are against helicopters now
As it fucking should be.

Jets>Helis>Tanks>APCs/AA>Light Trucks>Inf
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
thepilot91
Member
+64|6465|Ă…land!

UnkleRukus wrote:

Lucien wrote:

that's a load of shit mek tbh

I played a few full rounds in a jet last night and found I was more buffed than nerfed

the missiles are still accurate, they've just changed the way aiming works. They're now much more powerful and I was disabling tanks with a single rocket barrage from over 500 height and half a map away. really really good

They've also increased the amount of damage you can take before being disabled, it's somewhere around 35 health now. I've actually switched back to flares instead of using the extinguisher

before the patch, taking down a competent AA vehicle was impossible, you simply couldn't do enough damage. now you can kill them from so far away they can't actually shoot back.

it's all pretty good so far except how unbelievably OP jets are against helicopters now
As it fucking should be.

Jets>Helis>Tanks>APCs/AA>Light Trucks>Inf
I dont feel like inf actually is at the bottom quite yet ( yes IT SHOULD BE!) since a team of two iglas with some coordination still take down a jet quite easily...
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5265|Massachusetts, USA
Keep in mind the average IQ of a BF3 player.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6618

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Also, air radar is a must have if you're on console since you can't look around, which is insanely retarded. We need different views, like a rear-looking camera view and an F12 type from BF2/2142.

Otherwise all those useful things like beam scanner and belt-fed are suicidal choices.
Hold the d-pad down button to look around in aircraft.
Changing the view/camera (right joystick button) is helpful in seeing more of whats going on, especially spotting other aircraft.
https://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/west-phoenix-az/BF2S/bf2s_sig_9mmbrass.jpg
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6850|London, England

Lucien wrote:

that's a load of shit mek tbh

I played a few full rounds in a jet last night and found I was more buffed than nerfed

the missiles are still accurate, they've just changed the way aiming works. They're now much more powerful and I was disabling tanks with a single rocket barrage from over 500 height and half a map away. really really good

They've also increased the amount of damage you can take before being disabled, it's somewhere around 35 health now. I've actually switched back to flares instead of using the extinguisher

before the patch, taking down a competent AA vehicle was impossible, you simply couldn't do enough damage. now you can kill them from so far away they can't actually shoot back.

it's all pretty good so far except how unbelievably OP jets are against helicopters now
You have to use the I in conjunction with the crosshair, I know. I thought they were more powerful, but I was also on a good team for that round so I didn't know if the tanks were at full health or not.

The lower disable doesn't make a difference as Stingers/IGLA disable in one hit and the jet cannons are buffed vs jets, the lowering of disable isn't balanced vs jet cannon damage, so dogfights are over pretty quickly. There was no reason to increase flare reload speed time. I just think the Jet changes were unnecessary. Dogfighting has been ruined with one missile disabling a jet, if you really don't want to use the cannons you can just lock, fire one missile, flares are gone, fire second missile, jet disabled.

Obviously you could do that before, but the difference was before one jet missile wouldn't disable a jet.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2011-12-07 08:15:29)

Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6499
Well the downside there is you end up with no anti ground weaponry (aside from the cannon obviously).

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2011-12-07 08:44:39)

Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6896

thepilot91 wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Lucien wrote:

that's a load of shit mek tbh

I played a few full rounds in a jet last night and found I was more buffed than nerfed

the missiles are still accurate, they've just changed the way aiming works. They're now much more powerful and I was disabling tanks with a single rocket barrage from over 500 height and half a map away. really really good

They've also increased the amount of damage you can take before being disabled, it's somewhere around 35 health now. I've actually switched back to flares instead of using the extinguisher

before the patch, taking down a competent AA vehicle was impossible, you simply couldn't do enough damage. now you can kill them from so far away they can't actually shoot back.

it's all pretty good so far except how unbelievably OP jets are against helicopters now
As it fucking should be.

Jets>Helis>Tanks>APCs/AA>Light Trucks>Inf
I dont feel like inf actually is at the bottom quite yet ( yes IT SHOULD BE!) since a team of two iglas with some coordination still take down a jet quite easily...
As it should be.
Lost Hope
Lurker
+20|6556|Brussels, Belgium
Did any of you get a bug with your jet points not getting recorded for the jet but to your class instead ?

Because I had that one in a round where I risked flying the A-10 and managed to get a kill and a couple disable + spotting and suppression points if not enough for the flares then not far from it.

And at the end of the round, nothing got counted for the jet
https://bf3s.com/sigs/9c9f8f6ff3579a4c711aa54bbb9e928ec0786003.png
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6883

That'd be good news for me. Maybe I can finally complete the recon class.
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6896

mtb0minime wrote:

That'd be good news for me. Maybe I can finally complete the recon class.
Why not just role with one of the universal guns when going recon?  Or find an ammo pack and go MAV spot whoring?
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6883

Yeah, I could. Could hit up some 24/7 Metro servers. If I'm even bothered to play the game to begin with (which is the main overarching issue here )
Sisco
grandmaster league revivalist
+493|6572
Stingers are a bit op now tbh. They shoot you out of the cockpit half the time, leaving the jet intact and they seem to be harder to dodge than regular AA missiles from Jets/Mobile AA. What the fuck.
https://www.abload.de/img/bf3-bf2ssig0250wvn.jpg
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6883

Regarding getting shot out of the cockpit, they said they fixed that.

Oh wait, it's DICE.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5702|Ventura, California

mtb0minime wrote:

Yeah, I could. Could hit up some 24/7 Metro servers. If I'm even bothered to play the game to begin with (which is the main overarching issue here )
Wish I could find a 24/7 metro server on console. Except every and all servers don't seem to be "servers", they all have full map rotation, WTH? Is there not a single 24/7 server for xbox 360? I even searched "24/7" and different map names but there are none.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5265|Massachusetts, USA
Welcome to the shitbox360.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6938|England. Stoke

-Sh1fty- wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Yeah, I could. Could hit up some 24/7 Metro servers. If I'm even bothered to play the game to begin with (which is the main overarching issue here )
Wish I could find a 24/7 metro server on console. Except every and all servers don't seem to be "servers", they all have full map rotation, WTH? Is there not a single 24/7 server for xbox 360? I even searched "24/7" and different map names but there are none.
Because unlike the PC the servers aren't paid for and run by clans etc. who can setup the servers with their own configs, they are all standard setups.
jord
Member
+2,382|6907|The North, beyond the wall.
I was in quite a few difficult dogfights yesterday against someone who was half decent but I kept getting interupted by some javelin mong. It kills in 1 hit now so even if you manage to cleanse the sky of jets/helis by the time you have some retard AT guy has insta locked and killed you anyway.


Pointless
jord
Member
+2,382|6907|The North, beyond the wall.

coke wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

mtb0minime wrote:

Yeah, I could. Could hit up some 24/7 Metro servers. If I'm even bothered to play the game to begin with (which is the main overarching issue here )
Wish I could find a 24/7 metro server on console. Except every and all servers don't seem to be "servers", they all have full map rotation, WTH? Is there not a single 24/7 server for xbox 360? I even searched "24/7" and different map names but there are none.
Because unlike the PC the servers aren't paid for and run by clans etc. who can setup the servers with their own configs, they are all standard setups.
Plus metro is fucking wank so it's probably a good thing
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5702|Ventura, California

jord wrote:

coke wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:


Wish I could find a 24/7 metro server on console. Except every and all servers don't seem to be "servers", they all have full map rotation, WTH? Is there not a single 24/7 server for xbox 360? I even searched "24/7" and different map names but there are none.
Because unlike the PC the servers aren't paid for and run by clans etc. who can setup the servers with their own configs, they are all standard setups.
Plus metro is fucking wank so it's probably a good thing
Good for point farming
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
jord
Member
+2,382|6907|The North, beyond the wall.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

jord wrote:

coke wrote:


Because unlike the PC the servers aren't paid for and run by clans etc. who can setup the servers with their own configs, they are all standard setups.
Plus metro is fucking wank so it's probably a good thing
Good for point farming
Don't really feel the need to...
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5265|Massachusetts, USA
As if it isnt easy enough to rack up points in this game.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5702|Ventura, California
I've got a SPM of ~400 so I don't really need it but I do enjoy helping me team out with ammo and revives/heals more than shooting, cause I suck at shooting so point farming via teamwork is the next best thing.

Have the revive medal and the resupply medal, only recently got my first AR usage medal
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6850|London, England

-Sh1fty- wrote:

I've got a SPM of ~400 so I don't really need it but I do enjoy helping me team out with ammo and revives/heals more than shooting, cause I suck at shooting so point farming via teamwork is the next best thing.

Have the revive medal and the resupply medal, only recently got my first AR usage medal
It really isn't the next best thing, Metro is fucking shit, I don't know why so many of you people are constantly playing on meatgrinder servers.

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