Jay
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Typical leftist spin.  Oh the big mean repugs don't care about the lil guy, get sick and die right?.  That's such tired bullshit -and you know it.  Socialized health care is mass fail that leads to rationed care and death panels.  Obcare was fail from the get go.  Personal responsibility ftw.
You're using hyperbole as well.
No, that is the truth.  End of life care is death panels and it's back.  Look to other nations with State run healthcare.  It gets rationed.
We don't have a NHS even with Obamacare in place. You can still go out and get a "Cadillac" plan that covers everything including the most expensive treatments. Hell, even Medicare provides a ton more services than it probably should. If you're worried about your own end of life health care then save up your money and pay for it when you retire.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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JohnG@lt wrote:

We don't have a NHS even with Obamacare in place. You can still go out and get a "Cadillac" plan that covers everything including the most expensive treatments. Hell, even Medicare provides a ton more services than it probably should. If you're worried about your own end of life health care then save up your money and pay for it when you retire.
Yet.  This plan was step one to funnel people into the state care system.  If this was such a good plan, then why all the exemptions?

Yea, I know you can still go out and get a badass policy.  I've go me and the fam enrolled in CHP (#2 or #4 in the nation -woot).  I also pay dearly for it.

Death panel is back, backdoored in.  Sneaky fuckers. 
http://theweek.com/article/index/210635 … ath-panels

I've long said that I don't want to rely on the government to take care of me in my later years, and am actively taking steps to insure I won't need em' too.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

We don't have a NHS even with Obamacare in place. You can still go out and get a "Cadillac" plan that covers everything including the most expensive treatments. Hell, even Medicare provides a ton more services than it probably should. If you're worried about your own end of life health care then save up your money and pay for it when you retire.
Yet.  This plan was step one to funnel people into the state care system.  If this was such a good plan, then why all the exemptions?

Yea, I know you can still go out and get a badass policy.  I've go me and the fam enrolled in CHP (#2 or #4 in the nation -woot).  I also pay dearly for it.

Death panel is back, backdoored in.  Sneaky fuckers. 
http://theweek.com/article/index/210635 … ath-panels

I've long said that I don't want to rely on the government to take care of me in my later years, and am actively taking steps to insure I won't need em' too.
Then why on earth would this bother you? I dislike Obamacare immensely, I just don't understand all the hyperbole surrounding it. It's a shit plan, yes, but they aren't going to line people up against a wall and shoot them. If someone lived their life so poorly that they are dependent on the government in their retirement years then they get what they deserve.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Then why on earth would this bother you? I dislike Obamacare immensely, I just don't understand all the hyperbole surrounding it. It's a shit plan, yes, but they aren't going to line people up against a wall and shoot them. If someone lived their life so poorly that they are dependent on the government in their retirement years then they get what they deserve.
hehe.. Yea I know, but..

I'mWe're still paying for it.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Then why on earth would this bother you? I dislike Obamacare immensely, I just don't understand all the hyperbole surrounding it. It's a shit plan, yes, but they aren't going to line people up against a wall and shoot them. If someone lived their life so poorly that they are dependent on the government in their retirement years then they get what they deserve.
hehe.. Yea I know, but..

I'mWe're still paying for it.
Then you should be delighted by the very concept of death panels if you're worried about money.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
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JohnG@lt wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Then why on earth would this bother you? I dislike Obamacare immensely, I just don't understand all the hyperbole surrounding it. It's a shit plan, yes, but they aren't going to line people up against a wall and shoot them. If someone lived their life so poorly that they are dependent on the government in their retirement years then they get what they deserve.
hehe.. Yea I know, but..

I'mWe're still paying for it.
Then you should be delighted by the very concept of death panels if you're worried about money.
hahahahaha..... I'm not that cold blooded.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Typical leftist spin.  Oh the big mean repugs don't care about the lil guy, get sick and die right?.  That's such tired bullshit -and you know it.  Socialized health care is mass fail that leads to rationed care and death panels.  Obcare was fail from the get go.  Personal responsibility ftw.
Healthcare is already rationed by insurance companies, and by people's ability to pay.
And there will be no law preventing people buying additional cover either.
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I think we have established that state controlled healthcare is a terrible thing that kills babies and rapes women and children.
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

I think we have established that state controlled healthcare is a terrible thing that kills babies and rapes women and children.
You're wrong, state controlled healthcare causes people to hijack aeroplanes and blow up federal buildings.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

I think we have established that state controlled healthcare is a terrible thing that kills babies and rapes women and children.
You're wrong, state controlled healthcare causes people to hijack aeroplanes and blow up federal buildings.
It's true, that shit happens to sweden all the time.
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
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UnkleRukus wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

I think we have established that state controlled healthcare is a terrible thing that kills babies and rapes women and children.
You're wrong, state controlled healthcare causes people to hijack aeroplanes and blow up federal buildings.
It's true, that shit happens to sweden all the time.
I thought in Sweden socialised medicine was the cause of the high suicide rate and hatred of success.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:


You're wrong, state controlled healthcare causes people to hijack aeroplanes and blow up federal buildings.
It's true, that shit happens to sweden all the time.
I thought in Sweden socialised medicine was the cause of the high suicide rate and hatred of success.
Sweden doesn't have to play world's policeman either.
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Sweden doesn't have to play world's policeman either.
No one has to.
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I wish I could find a larger copy of this image but I can't. It's from a recent TIME magazine article.
https://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2011/1101/wgun_0124.jpg
Anyway, according to the stats TIME had 31,000 people die every year from gun violence. 12,000 are murdered. 17,000 commit suicide. The rest are accidents, self defense, and police intervention.

Going by the stats if you own a gun you are more likely to kill yourself than someone else.
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Haven't pointed a gun at anything that would cause devastating tragedy if shot. I'd say I'm pretty unlikely to kill myself with one.
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Macbeth wrote:

I wish I could find a larger copy of this image but I can't. It's from a recent TIME magazine article.
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2011/ … n_0124.jpg
Anyway, according to the stats TIME had 31,000 people die every year from gun violence. 12,000 are murdered. 17,000 commit suicide. The rest are accidents, self defense, and police intervention.

Going by the stats if you own a gun you are more likely to kill yourself than someone else.
I'm not their statistic. TIME can suck my balls.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Sweden doesn't have to play world's policeman either.
No one has to.
Until something goes wrong.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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hmmm so i got a job offer in san fran.  its good money but its not good enough to live in burlingame.  so that means either living across the bridge in hayward or commuting from at least an hour out....and i hate living far away from work.  i have never been to hayward but its south of oakland so i dont have a good feeling about that.  anyone from that area with some advice would be appreciated.

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11 Bravo wrote:

hmmm so i got a job offer in san fran.  its good money but its not good enough to live in burlingame.  so that means either living across the bridge in hayward or commuting from at least an hour out....and i hate living far away from work.  i have never been to hayward but its south of oakland so i dont have a good feeling about that.  anyone from that area with some advice would be appreciated.
inb4 http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 … lp-cartman
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thanks...
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Congrats on the job offer. Good luck making your decision.
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tuckergustav wrote:

Congrats on the job offer. Good luck making your decision.
Oh Hell yea! That too.

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Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2011-01-21 20:39:21)

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An example of the bs litigious nature of our society.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/20/twitte … hnologies/

A company called VS Technologies is suing Twitter, alleging that it infringes on a patent of theirs, entitled “Method and system for creating an interactive virtual community of famous people”.
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