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You guys are brainwashed.. BF2 sucks, i haven't played it in some time.

SNAP wrote:

I brought Oblivion the other day, played it for a few hours and thought, this just aint battlefield, and consigned it to my games shelf forever until the next carboot sale.

You bought a 60 dollar game and played it for a few hours??  You should have tried it first.  I'm guessing you're not really into the RPG stuff if you don't like Oblivion?  That's fine with me and all.  I love Oblivion, it's all I've been playing since it came out, but it's a serious time hog, which is also fine with me.

As for Ghost Recon AW I have played a good bit of it for Xbox 360 and was impressed (moreso for the 360, seeing as 99% of their 'massive library' of games is nothing but garbage, and no better than xbox or ps2 anyway).  I don't have too much trouble getting around the commands and such in GR, but I understand what you're saying about the movement.  It's pretty sluggish in response time but I attributed that to realism I suppose...i.e. if you're running you're generally not going to stop on a dime sort of idea....

dan500 wrote:

mjw wrote:

the game is good, but the graphics suck ass on PC.
Both me and one of my clanmates tried it and we both have very high spec PC's and the game looks awful.
Apparently the coders were so stupid that they hardcoded HDR lighting into the game and you can't turn it off and this consequently means that you can't turn on Anti-Aliasing so there are loads of Jaggy's everywhere.
Thing is the HDR looks terrible anyway sort of like how it looks awful on that new version of de_dust on CS:Source.
They could have included support for ATI cards that let you have both HDR and AA turned on but they didn't so in my opinion they don't deserve my money or anyone else's.
Yet one more game that has had so much time developing the console version and then as a result the PC version ends up being far less superior.

I have a friend who owns this on 360 and he says it looks fckin awesome on that, so buy yourself a 360 and get it on that instead. (if you have the dosh)

Looks great on my 7900GTX

no it doesn't, not unless your blind. I myself have an 1900XT from ATI which is the equilavent to your card. Take a screenshot and prove me wrong if you like, but i know for a fact you can't get Anti-Aliasing to work. The Ubisoft guys even told me this when they replied to my e-mail.
Their exact words were " we felt that the game looked better with HDR than Anti-Aliasing, so we decided to remove the AA from the game. we express our apolgies if this made the game worse for you."
Now, WTF!! remove Anti-Aliasing!! are they fckin stupid or what, how can you play games when all you can see is jagged edges everywhere, its a load of bullshite.

I will say it again DO NOT buy this game, unless you have dan500's 7900GTX which is obviously a special edition one off card that allows him to do everything that nobody else can do.
(GOD DAMN FANBOYS)

I've played the demo and did not like it. Gameplay is random and slow. Movement has elements of disability. Ummm, yea, if you want to have fun you should have a good system.

Last edited by Dr.Battlefield (2006-05-05 08:40:16)

the jagged edges are there dan500 its just you that cant see them. as for what snap said about anistropic filtering, do u know what your talking about?
Anistropic filtering has absolutley nothing to do with anti aliasing.
Anistropic Filtering- Makes textures at a distance look sharper instead of looking blurred
Anti Aliasing- Smoothes of jagged edges on objects such as buildings, weapon models etc....

The two are not linked.

As for the remark about quad-sli, this is also incorrect. You could have a FX60, with quad-sli, 16gb RAM, superfast hard-drives and DVD drives and a nice spangly case, that would cost you >£3000 and this game would still look shit, because IT DOES NOT SUPPORT ANTI-ALIASING!!!!!!!!
Nothing you do in graphic settings can make this different, the game engine doesn't support it so please,please dont say that you can get it to work, because you're basically saying you know more than the guys that coded it.

I love Oblivion, it's all I've been playing since it came out, but it's a serious time hog, which is also fine with me.

Last edited by spacepelle (2006-05-05 10:04:17)

It rocks on the Xbox 360. You are in third person view also instead of first. The Graphics look a lot better on the 360 also.

Last edited by Miller (2006-05-05 10:22:41)

dan500, i don't sit here and inspect every little thing, but when the game looks this bad it puts me right off.
The PC version looks very blurry aswell as though there is something like a film over the picture thats blurring it.

The main reason i dont like this game is the fact that i cant choose whether or not i want it to look bad or not, its the principle. There are more and more shoddy coded games coming out these days (just like bf2 was originally) and people keep buying them and paying the developers money they don't deserve as they have not done their job properly.

A good example of a Quality product is Half Life 2 and the source engine. The graphics look superb even on medium range sysytems and the FPS you get is phenomenal. Now in Advanced Warfighter, the max FPS your ever gonna get is probably around 30-40 because its full of uneccesary shaders in places where you will never notice them, that suck up performance from the game when they really shouldn't do.

If you want to keep buying half-finished products that will need atleast 3 or more patches before it is even playable at a high standard then feel free, but please dont lie to other people and say it is amazing when it quite clearly isn't.

Oh i forgot, i did mention in my first post that the gameplay is very impressive but its still no excuse to release unfinished titles.

SNAP wrote:

dont all games come out unfinished these days anyway? patching just seems to be the way things are.
I cant remember the last time I brought a game that didnt need patching almost immediatley!

You just bought oblivion, that doesn't require patching

Seriously though, I'm with you on the arrow keys.  I'll never understand why most game-makers map the movement to wsad keys, as most people I know prefer arrow keys (although I've seen more bf2 players liking wsad).

I'm running oblv with an ATI Connect3d x800 GTO, AMD 64 3700+ San Diego 2.2 cpu, 3G ram (7.1 surround to boot, although good luck finding a game using 7.1) and I find the shadowing in the game almost unaffected by the aa settings.  On character faces they look kind of screwed up regardless of which AA set you pick.  It's noticable on backgrounds, however.
My bro just picked up a 512mb ATI card and says it looks quite a bit better.

I had no problems installing, cranking the effects, modding and playing it so I never thought to look into other peoples' problems.  And yeah, I refuse to touch the difficulty bar because it's cheesy.  They should have made a difficulty option when starting the game (which keeps your current game on that difficulty).   I fast travel all the time now, i ran around the province on a horse marking as much as I could on my map at first.  Ah well, to each their own!  I'll have to get back into BF2 soon...

Rygar wrote:

Miller wrote:

It rocks on the Xbox 360. You are in third person view also instead of first. The Graphics look a lot better on the 360 also.

You can change between 3rd and 1st person views on the 360, can't you? For some reason I think you can for single player, but not multi-player....

I haven't tried yet, I will now then. I'll update you on it soon.

I downloaded the demo and installed it. Unfortunately, it required me to unstall Ageia's PhysX drivers, even though I didn't have the card. Unfortunately, that installation failed to complete, as it could not install itself on Windows XP 64. How near-sighted.