SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6889|The darkside of Denver
Good chest day tonight
belldawg
Serial Jay-Walker
+52|6213|Perth, indian ocean
any good excercises for calf and thigh muscles?
baggs
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belldawg wrote:

any good excercises for calf and thigh muscles?
squats and deadlifts.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6995|UK
and calf extensions.

My legs have now increased in diameter by like 2-3 inches from just squating, started deadlifting last week because my back is really starting to struggle with how much im squating, even though that isn't all that much.
baggs
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Vilham wrote:

and calf extensions.

My legs have now increased in diameter by like 2-3 inches from just squating, started deadlifting last week because my back is really starting to struggle with how much im squating, even though that isn't all that much.
deadlifts are awesome, are you doing tradtional deadlifts?
Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

SonderKommando wrote:

baggs wrote:

I really enjoy leg days, odd.

Zim wrote:

Same.
Lrn2comprehendmuch?  I said I like training legs, but hate the days afterward.. I hate the days leading up to leg day because i hurt so bad afterwards.  But nothing beats strapping a couple hundred pounds to your back and powering it up from the ground.
I love the feeling of fucked legs the next day.
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6420|Roma
Is there any advantage of doing Chest & Biceps on the same day as opposed to Chest and Triceps?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
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Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

PrivateVendetta wrote:

Is there any advantage of doing Chest & Biceps on the same day as opposed to Chest and Triceps?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
Are you crazy? You NEVER EVER EVER do Chest and Triceps on the same day....

You're working the same muscle set and you basically fuck up your chest workout if you do triceps on the same day, and vice versa if you start with chest and end with triceps.

Who told you to do that? That's probably the worst combination workout you can have in a day.

Chest and Biceps is fine, though.
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
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Right. That's what someone told me when I started earlier this year, then I really started working out (the correct way) when I joined the gym at the airport here with a program.
It was never triceps then chest, always bigger muscle groups first
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Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

It's just a very very bad combination, as it tires out the same muscle group yet you're trying to work out different ones.

There should be at least a day break between triceps and chest.
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
+704|6420|Roma
Is there any benefit in doing extra exercises on a different muscle group after a day on another program? Just doing the extra ones till you are tired rather than to a program?
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Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

PrivateVendetta wrote:

Is there any benefit in doing extra exercises on a different muscle group after a day on another program? Just doing the extra ones till you are tired rather than to a program?
That's very bad as well, simply because your muscles only grow when you rest them.

Keep to your exact program and don't try and add in 30 minutes of biceps in the evening if you think you can, it's not gonna work.
PrivateVendetta
I DEMAND XMAS THEME
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Okie dokie.
Off to do Legs and Shoulders now i think. laters
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HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5713|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Zimmer wrote:

PrivateVendetta wrote:

Is there any advantage of doing Chest & Biceps on the same day as opposed to Chest and Triceps?
I thought you had to do opposite muscle groups, but then the program my gym made me has me doing Chest & Biceps.
I can see the advantage of either way, does it matter that much?
Are you crazy? You NEVER EVER EVER do Chest and Triceps on the same day....

You're working the same muscle set and you basically fuck up your chest workout if you do triceps on the same day, and vice versa if you start with chest and end with triceps.

Who told you to do that? That's probably the worst combination workout you can have in a day.

Chest and Biceps is fine, though.
jesus, its not that bad.

honestly, you dont know what youre talking about.  i do Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps usually at the end of my workout cycle.  its all about changing up the routine and keeping your muscles guessing.

edit: also, if you're going to respond, respond with a reputable source please.  because i doubt you know everything

Last edited by HaiBai (2010-05-01 08:21:38)

Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

HaiBai wrote:

jesus, its not that bad.

honestly, you dont know what youre talking about.  i do Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps usually at the end of my workout cycle.  its all about changing up the routine and keeping your muscles guessing.

edit: also, if you're going to respond, respond with a reputable source please.  because i doubt you know everything
Oh, and you do? lol. Please, if you're going to come back with a stupid comment like that, then at least have reason to.

People say different things, people workout differently, but I've never done that combination simply because your triceps/chest are fried after doing a chest/triceps workout beforehand. It helps mixing it up, of course it does, but when your muscles are utterly destroyed from a good chest workout, the best thing you can do is let them rest, not try and work out your triceps more.

You're right, mixing up your exercise cycle is very important, but that doesn't mean you have to exhaust your muscles on one workout.

I can't remember my source for it, and honestly, what other guy in this thread has posted sources? I can confidently say that my advice is pretty damn spot on, and people can back me up on that on these forums.

Don't get all itchy about a comment I made.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5713|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Zimmer wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

jesus, its not that bad.

honestly, you dont know what youre talking about.  i do Chest, Shoulders, & Triceps usually at the end of my workout cycle.  its all about changing up the routine and keeping your muscles guessing.

edit: also, if you're going to respond, respond with a reputable source please.  because i doubt you know everything
Oh, and you do? lol. Please, if you're going to come back with a stupid comment like that, then at least have reason to.

People say different things, people workout differently, but I've never done that combination simply because your triceps/chest are fried after doing a chest/triceps workout beforehand. It helps mixing it up, of course it does, but when your muscles are utterly destroyed from a good chest workout, the best thing you can do is let them rest, not try and work out your triceps more.

You're right, mixing up your exercise cycle is very important, but that doesn't mean you have to exhaust your muscles on one workout.

I can't remember my source for it, and honestly, what other guy in this thread has posted sources? I can confidently say that my advice is pretty damn spot on, and people can back me up on that on these forums.

Don't get all itchy about a comment I made.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source … 7b1c79523e

it seems like its recommended.  hmm

edit: also, what do you mean i should have a reason?  you stated that working out chest and triceps on the same day is bad for like it was a fact, not an opinion.  my reason is that you're wrong.  if its your opinion, say that.  you should reread what you posted:

Zimmerman wrote:

Are you crazy? You NEVER EVER EVER do Chest and Triceps on the same day....

You're working the same muscle set and you basically fuck up your chest workout if you do triceps on the same day, and vice versa if you start with chest and end with triceps.

Who told you to do that? That's probably the worst combination workout you can have in a day.

Last edited by HaiBai (2010-05-01 10:45:23)

SonderKommando
Eat, Lift, Grow, Repeat....
+564|6889|The darkside of Denver
side with Zim especially when you're training heavy. It pays dividends to have fresh tri's for heavy benching.
baggs
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I agree with Zim and Sonder, if you are lifting for results, you never do chest and triceps on the same day.

If you are more 'recreational' then do what ever the fuck you want.
Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

^

@HaiBai
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6385|Vancouver | Canada
So...how effective is a resistance band as a substitute for a pullup bar?

I'm too financially fucked right now to afford a bar.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5713|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Zimmer wrote:

^

@HaiBai
Click on the link that I posted. facepalm\
baggs
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+732|6433

HaiBai wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

^

@HaiBai
Click on the link that I posted. facepalm\
wow you googled, i can see you have spent many an hour in the gym.

i wonder what people did at the gym before google came along, i imagine they just stared at the weights wondering what to do.
Zimmer
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+1,688|6985|Scotland

DefCon-17 wrote:

So...how effective is a resistance band as a substitute for a pullup bar?

I'm too financially fucked right now to afford a bar.
Iron Gym from JML should do the trick and is dirt cheap. Find that.

Resistance band is very good as well.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5713|Bolingbrook, Illinois

baggs wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

^

@HaiBai
Click on the link that I posted. facepalm\
wow you googled, i can see you have spent many an hour in the gym.

i wonder what people did at the gym before google came along, i imagine they just stared at the weights wondering what to do.
its not like any of you guys are pro bodybuilders, you obviously don't know what you're talking about if almost everyone on a bodybuilding forum says working them out on the same day is good...

It is very ok! Doing push and pull exercises on the same day will limit injuries and joint overtraining in the long run. A added bebefit is that the nutrient and oxygen filled blood that you send to your muscles when training stays in the upper arm region for a added pump and performance. You can even try to do shoulders first then biceps and than triceps for a super pump. Arnorld did his training like this for years and i have bean doing so for 8 years now- injury free. Also try to to chest and back together for your one of your other split days for a total upper body pump! Start with chest and then go to your back training. Do legs only on your third split day.

Always to your exercises slow and controlled and never use momentum! Eat BIG rest BIG lift BIG and you will gain!

By the way- all that nonsense of working triceps on your chest day because triceps are involved will only limit your performance with triceps training. You can activate more fibres with fresh triceps and heavier weights with strict form than with somewhat tired triceps after chest training with lighter weights and sloppier form. Don't worry about overtraining your triceps if you bench one day and then train triceps the next day it won't happen- After all the purpose of chest training is traing your chest not your triceps.Don't trian for more than five days a week- then you'll over train.

Good luck and work hard

I have been doing natural bodybuilding for 8 years with huge gains because of proper training- you can trust my answer!
Jebus
Looking for my Scooper
+218|5993|Belgium
Leg Day, stoked to improve my ATG squat

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