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Mekstizzle wrote:

Messi is close to already being the greatest player ever. But, and it's a big but, he needs to perform on the international stage still. Plenty of time left in his career to do that, but a shitty Argentine squad will probably let him down. Imagine if this guy was Spanish.

Problem is, Maradona is a cunt. Plan and simple. He can't manage to save his life.

fair enough

Zimmer wrote:

Toilet Sex wrote:

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Nothing to with the game i know but i'm curious

Scotland

???

Born in Tarragona, Spain. Lived there most of my life.

Why the fuck are you living in Scotland now then

Get back to Spain

I'm seriously going to titty-slap the next person who says Rooney's the best player in the world right now.

As always when it comes to these lame "best player in the world arguments" there is never a definitive answer because it's impossible to compare different leagues and teams.

Messi is the best to watch yes, and is without doubt joint best in the world.

But remember this, Messi is surrounded by class players with unbelievable skill and the ability to intimidate any team. Rooney on the other hand has pretty much carried the entire manchester utd team this season, he has been a leader ad well as their best player by a million miles, united's midfield and other forwards isn't even in the same league as barcelonas....you can not say Messi is "better" than him, well not IMO anyway.

Perhaps if you moved both of them into the italian/german league into the same team, then and only then could you compare.

Hopefully united will meet them in the final, another good way to compare would be to see who influences the outcome of that match.

Martin Tyler did some of his stats wizardry on his blog earlier on in the season.

A fan asked who's goals have been the most important for their team.

Drogba topped the list, without his goals Chelsea would be 15 points worse off
Without Rooney's United would be 8 points worse off.

Ah here it is

It was an interesting read, as it proves, Rooney has not been carrying United, and to suggest that before saying Drogba has is frankly stupid.

Last edited by The Sheriff (2010-04-06 17:17:12)

justice wrote:

As always when it comes to these lame "best player in the world arguments" there is never a definitive answer because it's impossible to compare different leagues and teams.

Messi is the best to watch yes, and is without doubt joint best in the world.

But remember this, Messi is surrounded by class players with unbelievable skill and the ability to intimidate any team. Rooney on the other hand has pretty much carried the entire manchester utd team this season, he has been a leader ad well as their best player by a million miles, united's midfield and other forwards isn't even in the same league as barcelonas....you can not say Messi is "better" than him, well not IMO anyway.

Perhaps if you moved both of them into the italian/german league into the same team, then and only then could you compare.

Hopefully united will meet them in the final, another good way to compare would be to see who influences the outcome of that match.

Wow. That's pretty much bollocks. Even commentators were saying that Rooney and Messi were close.... like 2 weeks ago. Now everyone accepts Messi is the greatest and he is miles ahead of any player.

I'm sorry, but Rooney is in no way on par with Messi in any way. He's fantastic, and definitely one of the worlds best, but not anywhere close to Messi. As shown by his performance last night.

Messi can rape any team he wants, without needing the support of his team. Rooney, on the other hand, cannot. Rooney requires a solid midfield to give him the opportunities he has at goal, whereas Messi can produce out of nothing. Sure, Messi has a great team surrounding him, but as shown from last night, his goals were pretty much crafted out of nothing. Rooney cannot do that, he needs players like Giggs, Park and Valencia to feed him for him to produce.

The Sheriff wrote:

Martin Tyler did some of his stats wizardry on his blog earlier on in the season.

A fan asked who's goals have been the most important for their team.

Drogba topped the list, without his goals Chelsea would be 15 points worse off
Without Rooney's United would be 8 points worse off.

Ah here it is

It was an interesting read, as it proves, Rooney has not been carrying United, and to suggest that before saying Drogba has is frankly stupid.

Chelsea have played 14 matches this season without Drogba starting, resulting in 13 wins and a draw.

Malouda has been more important that Drogba this year, imo (wow, if you'd have told me that a year and a half ago...)

Before the Chelsea game, United had won 10 out of their last 11 without Rooney, drawing the other one too, some of those were from last year though. I'm not sure how many have been this season, we miss him when he's not playing, but don't rely on him.

Rooney to start

I think it's a bad idea.

cannot recall the last time i enjoyed watching football this much.

I'm nervous as fuck right now, moreso than the 07/08 final