BF2S Forums Australian politics thread.

AussieReaper wrote:

NSW has been piss poor for awhile, imo because the Liberal opposition has been even worse.

Apart from Barry O'Farrell, and maybe the opposition minister for health, you never hear or see any opposition spokesmen. They just don't get enough attention, or are not active enough in the media to debate policy in front of the public.

In this case publicity may be a curse, not a blessing.

Rarrrrr, have to vote on Saturday!!!

Zoo Weekly has approached “chk chk boom girl” Clare Werbeloff to promote its wares by having her run as a candidate.

DrunkFace wrote:

Rarrrrr, have to vote on Saturday!!!

Zoo Weekly has approached “chk chk boom girl” Clare Werbeloff to promote its wares by having her run as a candidate.

She's got my vote.
What does her manifesto say about computer games?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-12-04 17:43:19)

You did the next best thing and voted for the Sex Party?

The Greens are polling higher than Labor did last election

Burwhale wrote:

True , but those seats are so Liberal that they would look to the Greens before voting Labor. That wouldnt suprise me I guess. Dont get me wrong, I am happy to see a greater Greens contingent in both houses.

Given that Green are further left than labor (who are centre-right nowadays) I doubt that...

Abbot strikes me as the typical moronic blokish sort of jerk politics in this country already has far too many of.
I've yet to hear anything sensible and not laced with political smart-arsery come out of his mouth.
And he's Catholic apparently.

Spark wrote:

Burwhale wrote:

Yep, the states are doing a piss poor job at the moment. And I hate to say it, but Labor is largely at fault here. Of the 3 levels of govt we have in Australia, we could probably do with out the State govts. That way the Feds collect revenue and pass it to local govts. I doubt any Fed govt would be brave enough to try it though. Constitutionally taking significant power away from the states would be a minefield.

Rudd floated it a while back... well, actually, it was in one of those televised "Q&A" type shows (not the actual Q&A) where someone asked if we could just get rid of state govts. Rudd basically gave "we're considering it, we would like to get rid of waste and duplication (by which he means state govts".

Bur: I couldn't imagine the political turmoil if the Fed gov't here in the US told the states they could no longer directly collect tax.
Spark: I don't suppose the fed would offer to give up some of their power to reduce waste and duplication.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Spark: I don't suppose the fed would offer to give up some of their power to reduce waste and duplication.

Good god I wouldn't trust the State Governments with anything else. They already fail enough as it is..

Flecco wrote:

Mad Monk challenged Rudd to a televised debate on climate change.


His policy on climate change is... *ahem*... Pretty much smoke and mirrors. All wishy washy theory on new building codes and shit, nothing solid.


He reminds my father of Keating.

Yeah I think it will be a bit one sided . Abbot  doesnt really have anyting with respect to GW, and Rudd knows it. Abbot is pretty smart though, so it wount be a total walk over. I am starting to see news articles saying that even without a carbon tax/Carbon trading system, his system will cost. It remains to be seen how he will pay for it though.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Spark wrote:

Burwhale wrote:

Yep, the states are doing a piss poor job at the moment. And I hate to say it, but Labor is largely at fault here. Of the 3 levels of govt we have in Australia, we could probably do with out the State govts. That way the Feds collect revenue and pass it to local govts. I doubt any Fed govt would be brave enough to try it though. Constitutionally taking significant power away from the states would be a minefield.

Rudd floated it a while back... well, actually, it was in one of those televised "Q&A" type shows (not the actual Q&A) where someone asked if we could just get rid of state govts. Rudd basically gave "we're considering it, we would like to get rid of waste and duplication (by which he means state govts".

Bur: I couldn't imagine the political turmoil if the Fed gov't here in the US told the states they could no longer directly collect tax.
Spark: I don't suppose the fed would offer to give up some of their power to reduce waste and duplication.

To the states? Fuck no, that would be a disaster of the highest magnitude. Federal government is the only level of government that seems mildly competent right now.

Seriously, there's a lot of talk about scrapping - or at the least seriously working - federalism and getting rid of the states. I mean, people are literally begging the Federal government to take over the hospital system. The Catholic hospitals have even offered to use their hospitals as "test subjects".

Burwhale wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Mad Monk challenged Rudd to a televised debate on climate change.


His policy on climate change is... *ahem*... Pretty much smoke and mirrors. All wishy washy theory on new building codes and shit, nothing solid.


He reminds my father of Keating.

Yeah I think it will be a bit one sided . Abbot  doesnt really have anyting with respect to GW, and Rudd knows it. Abbot is pretty smart though, so it wount be a total walk over. I am starting to see news articles saying that even without a carbon tax/Carbon trading system, his system will cost. It remains to be seen how he will pay for it though.

Of course it'll cost, if it was free/easy it would have been done already.

Last edited by Spark (2009-12-05 18:12:41)

AussieReaper wrote:

Wait till Rudd returns from Copenhagen. All he has to do is say "the rest of the world is doing thus" and Abbott will have to follow suite.

Assuming anything happens, that is.

Kmarion wrote:

^^We need a good Copenhagen thread. A break down of positions and goals. China and India have already refused oversight right?

I'm wary of starting a Copenhagen thread because I have a strong suspicion it will quickly be derailed into more climategate crap.