Spidery_Yoda
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Novint are running a competition at the TF2 forums where if you beat their guy at TF2 you win a Falcon, providing you pay for shipping costs. Sounds pretty awesome as far as i'm concerned .

It's 1v1 matches in Arena, with (this is the part I don't like) a random class chosen at the start of each round for you both to be. If you beat him 2 out of 3 then you win a Falcon, simple as that .

Here's the thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s … p?t=907790

Be sure to read it all. I'm not entirely sure how to properly enter etc yet but more details will be given over time.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6870
They'd better have a ton of them saved up then

Sure it's probably nice to use, but practical it's not.

First off, the control for the Falcon is basically the same as the control with a mouse. It is direct position control - you move right-left, the cross hair moves right-left in a one-to-one fashion. You move up-down, the cross hair moves up-down. With the mouse, when you get to the edge of your workspace you have to pick it up and move it. With the Falcon, when you get to the edge of your workspace, you just push against a virtual spring, and you keep moving. That's a big advantage when you learn how to use it. It's almost like having a reactive rubber band surrounding your mousepad. Also, you feel things in the game that you don't get with a mouse. When you're shot, for example, you feel exactly what direction it precisely came from, and you can react quicker. I've lived in TF2 when a pyro blasted me using a Falcon where I would have died with a mouse. You learn to react from the feel of it, and you can instantly turn to where you feel the attack coming from, knowing where your opponent is exactly before you start moving, rather than knowing generally where your opponent is, and then needing to find him visually. Forces help your brain to react better. You feel a subtle forces when you uncloak as a spy or when as your sticky bombs are becoming ready to fire, letting you feel more precisely when you can strike. It's a small incremental bonus, but you get used to it, and all of the added feedback and understanding makes you better. The control itself has advantages too. Ultimately, given the outer workspace usage of the Falcon, where you are pushing against virtual springs, you can spin faster than even a movement on a 4000 dpi mouse. If you really crank up the spin rate, and practice a lot, you'll be able to be faster and better.

I think, ironically, that the debate will shift in the future to whether the Falcon should be allowed in professional competitions given the advantages it gives.
Comedy gold right there. Here's a tl;dr version:
The falcon is superior because:
-you can't run out of desk space.
-you can tell where things are coming from.
-it can have a high sensitivity.

Last edited by Lucien (2009-06-29 07:49:08)

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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6755|Long Island, New York
I'll stick with my mouse..
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6688
They're shit.
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Spidery_Yoda
Member
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Yeah to be honest I don't see how it could possibly beat a mouse in competition. It looks slightly awkward etc.

However i'd love to have one for singleplayer games. All those previews talking about how it enhanced HL2 can't all be wrong.
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6844|UK
Win one and sell it.
Shadow893
lel
+75|6910|England
Running out of desk space? How can you do that if you have even the smallest of skill of using a mouse lol. I never run out of room. Why not just turn the sensitivity up in game? It's what i do for CSS and BF2
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6619|dm_maidenhead
I want one
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6373|Vancouver | Canada
I'd love to see that if they both get Sniper.
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6609|Southern California
The whole advantage of a mouse is that it always moves in direct relation to you hand.

Sure you have to lift it sometimes, but at least your not stuck with a limited range of movement like a console controller. That is the whole reason we use a mouse.

It looks like it could be cool for 3d modeling, but I would much rather have a mouse if I was trying to be competitive.
TopHat01
Limitless
+117|6122|CA

liquidat0r wrote:

Win one and sell it.
I'm glad someone has the same idea...
Jestar
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Shadow893 wrote:

Running out of desk space? How can you do that if you have even the smallest of skill of using a mouse lol. I never run out of room. Why not just turn the sensitivity up in game? It's what i do for CSS and BF2
That's why you're shit.
Peter
Super Awesome Member
+494|6619|dm_maidenhead

Peter wrote:

I want one
I won one tonight in a 6v6 against the falcon team.
Pretty good considering the falcon team are winning 6-2 overall vs mouse.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6487
You are the best TF2 player in the world.
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6608

Tell us how it is.  I was thinking of ordering one until they ran out of stock.
Spidery_Yoda
Member
+399|6487
But don't tell us how it is before putting a lot of time into it. According to the Falcon guys it takes ~30 hours (or maybe it was less than that because that's a looong time) to really get the hang of it and before then you'll probably have trouble and prefer the mouse.

Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2009-11-15 18:47:02)

NooBesT
Pizzahitler
+873|6686

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

But don't tell us how it is before putting a lot of time into it. According to the Falcon guys it takes ~30 hours (or maybe it was less than that because that's a looong time) to really get the hang of it and before then you'll probably have trouble and prefer the mouse.
Well of course.
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