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2006-04-14 17:25:01

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6830|132 and Bush

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad issued a typically inflammatory statement only hours before Mr ElBaradei arrived in Tehran. "Our answer to those who are angry about Iran obtaining the full nuclear cycle is one phrase, we say: Be angry and die of this anger," he said.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/mid … 357645.ece

Even Russia and China, urged Iran to resume its uranium enrichment freeze.

PS:I am aware of the other topic "Iran getting closer now" however I do think this topic should focus more on the attitude of Iran rather than the progress of their Nuclear program. If an admin sees this as needing to be in the other topic feel free to move, I just think these are two different discussions.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-04-14 17:28:28)

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-04-14 18:26:25

BVC: Member; +325|6924

Its Irans way of saying "cry my a fucking river" I guess...

2006-04-14 19:47:34

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6830|132 and Bush

Getting ugly faster and faster.

TEHRAN, Iran - The president of
Iran again lashed out at
Israel on Friday and said it was "heading toward annihilation," just days after Tehran raised fears about its nuclear activities by saying it successfully enriched uranium for the first time.

"The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&a … _israel_10

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-04-14 20:50:53

Flavius Aetius: Member; +3|6898|Stalking Chuck Norris

...just asking for it...

2006-04-14 20:55:00

Vampira_NB: Trying is the first step to failing; +76|6903|Canada Eh?

An all out nuclear was between the US and Iran is unlikely, Iran doesn't have the capabilities to detonate one in the US, if they would, their country would be turned to nothing. But Iran blowing up other countries in the middle east is definetely a possibility.

2006-04-14 21:12:54

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6903|Canberra, AUS

The Iranian President is an imbecile who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker.

Thankyou.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2006-04-14 21:21:09

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6922

God n stuff help us.

2006-04-14 22:13:28

dannofarrell: Member; +0|6816

Iran... the country we shoudl've[/1] invaded all along...

They've been making imflammatory comments for so long now, and have all but asked for a confrontation.

Their nuclear capability is completely non-existent at the moment, though, and even in the number of years that it takes to develop it (they say 5 - 10) they won't be building ICBM's. Of course, if they did, we would most certainly be invading. It is true, however, that they could launch a strike against Israel, but it's more likely that Israel will deliver the first blow, independent of any of our actions.

I think it's inevitable at some point we will be forced to go to war with Iran. They say one of the fears is that Iranian-linked Hezbollah will start large-scale terrorist attacks in the Middle East and around the world. I say... no way. If we punched Iran so hard that it couldn't fund, much less communicate with Hezbollah, it would be like pulling the carpet out from underneath them. You want to see a terrorist organization run scared? Kick the crap out of its host country... just look what happened with Afghanistan and Al Qaeda.

The real problem isn't that other organizations or countries would rally against us militarily... because no matter what, no one in their right minds wants to pick a fight with the US (meaning Iran [i]is crazy)

The real problem is that we are currently, plainly, just spread too thin. We're in two theaters of battle with the bulk of our reserve deployed. We are still stationed around the world in case other issues become problems (like Korea)... so where's the big rolling horde of US Troops going to come from? Naive planners say only a massive bombing campaign will be all that's necessary to destabilize the regime enough to be overthrown... but that's bs.

And the worst part... for the first time since 1945 talk of the use of nukes is being heard... it's said that if Iran is running Uranium-enriching centrifuges 75 ft. underground in reinforced concrete bunkers, then the only way to get that deep and destroy the centrifuges are by using bunker-busting bombs... nuclear bunker-busting bombs.

my $.02 USD? I think it's really frigging scary. We are going to war...

2006-04-14 23:30:00

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6903|Canberra, AUS

Damn, not so much italics!

Personally I think we shouldn't even think of doing anything forcible until they can enrich uranium to double-figures.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2006-04-14 23:36:55

Capt. Foley: Member; +155|6817|Allentown, PA, USA

i saw on the point of existence forums about a new bunkerbusting bomb that is going to be tested in may
20,000 pounds of explosives and it will be the largests mushroom cloud scince a detination of a nuclear bomb

put a few of those on some B 52s
to bad its not ready or i think a few would already be around germany turkey or isreal just waiting for iran to make the next dumbass step

2006-04-15 01:59:51

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6945

Capt. Foley wrote:
i saw on the point of existence forums about a new bunkerbusting bomb that is going to be tested in may
20,000 pounds of explosives and it will be the largests mushroom cloud scince a detination of a nuclear bomb

put a few of those on some B 52s
to bad its not ready or i think a few would already be around germany turkey or isreal just waiting for iran to make the next dumbass step

bunkerbusting nuclear bombs wont work, since if a bunker is 1000ft underground, the bomb would only be under ground only 50ft if its lucky, and the radiation will spread to as far as india. india will not like that will it? the best way is to use presicion guided bombs and hit all the entrances in the tunnel so no one can get in or out

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2006-04-15 04:47:33

Rosse_modest: Member; +76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

Spark wrote:
The Iranian President is an imbecile who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker.

Thankyou.

There are lots of presidents out there who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker

2006-04-15 04:49:46

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6945

Rosse_modest wrote:
Spark wrote:
The Iranian President is an imbecile who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker.

Thankyou.
There are lots of presidents out there who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker

there was one that was for sure

2006-04-15 10:14:25

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7001|PNW

Pubic wrote:
Its Irans way of saying "cry my a fucking river" I guess...

"Be angry and die of this anger," isn't as fundamentally cool as CMAFR.

2006-04-15 11:24:40

Major_Spittle: Banned; +276|6884|United States of America

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Rosse_modest wrote:
Spark wrote:
The Iranian President is an imbecile who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker.

Thankyou.
There are lots of presidents out there who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker
there was one that was for sure

I am becoming quite fond of you Europeons in the same way a person could become found of their strange little cousin at the family reunion that wears his underwear on the outside of his pants because he ran a high fever when a toddler. Sure it is fun to watch his antics and you feel sorry for him, but you just can't seem to forget that time he took a shit on Aunt Beas lap and ruined the wedding.

So here's to you; you socialists in Spain, you indignant Frenchmen, you Nazis in Germany, you pacifist in Belguim, and you pot heads in Austria.

And here's to enjoying your antics until the next time you shit on Aunt Beas lap.

2006-04-15 11:45:04

dannofarrell: Member; +0|6816

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
bunkerbusting nuclear bombs wont work, since if a bunker is 1000ft underground, the bomb would only be under ground only 50ft if its lucky, and the radiation will spread to as far as india. india will not like that will it? the best way is to use presicion guided bombs and hit all the entrances in the tunnel so no one can get in or out

I respectfully disagree... most of the nuclear testing we conducted was... underground, and not far outside civilian populations... and when underground, the radiation doesn't spread that far, definitely not to India.

Here's a quote from the New Yorker article by Seymour Hersh that blew the lid on the White House planning-
"One of the military’s initial option plans, as presented to the White House by the Pentagon this winter, calls for the use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, against underground nuclear sites."

Here's the article link-
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060417fa_fact

But that's really what's going to cause the problem... because it's 'small' it'll be justified, to some anyways.

2006-04-15 12:32:02

Rosse_modest: Member; +76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

Major_Spittle wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Rosse_modest wrote:
There are lots of presidents out there who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker
there was one that was for sure
I am becoming quite fond of you Europeons in the same way a person could become found of their strange little cousin at the family reunion that wears his underwear on the outside of his pants because he ran a high fever when a toddler. Sure it is fun to watch his antics and you feel sorry for him, but you just can't seem to forget that time he took a shit on Aunt Beas lap and ruined the wedding.

So here's to you; you socialists in Spain, you indignant Frenchmen, you Nazis in Germany, you pacifist in Belguim, and you pot heads in Austria.

And here's to enjoying your antics until the next time you shit on Aunt Beas lap.

Really?
That's AMAZING!!!
And to what do I owe being the subject of your fondness?

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2006-04-15 12:38:26

Rosse_modest: Member; +76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

dannofarrell wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
bunkerbusting nuclear bombs wont work, since if a bunker is 1000ft underground, the bomb would only be under ground only 50ft if its lucky, and the radiation will spread to as far as india. india will not like that will it? the best way is to use presicion guided bombs and hit all the entrances in the tunnel so no one can get in or out
I respectfully disagree... most of the nuclear testing we conducted was... underground, and not far outside civilian populations... and when underground, the radiation doesn't spread that far, definitely not to India.

Here's a quote from the New Yorker article by Seymour Hersh that blew the lid on the White House planning-
"One of the military’s initial option plans, as presented to the White House by the Pentagon this winter, calls for the use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, against underground nuclear sites."

Here's the article link-
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/a … 417fa_fact

But that's really what's going to cause the problem... because it's 'small' it'll be justified, to some anyways.

I believe the first guy to mention bunkerbuster bombs said something about mushroom clouds, implying the explosion and thus ensuing radiation is not contained underground. He also said "biggest mushroom clouds since nukes", thereby implying he is not talking about bunkerbuster nukes.

2006-04-15 12:39:58

chitlin: Banned; +36|6991

anyone got some specific responses from isreal ? dude makes some crazy bold statements and id tottaly support isreal kickin the shit out of iran

2006-04-15 17:30:09

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6903|Canberra, AUS

Major_Spittle wrote:
cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Rosse_modest wrote:

There are lots of presidents out there who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker
there was one that was for sure
I am becoming quite fond of you Europeons in the same way a person could become found of their strange little cousin at the family reunion that wears his underwear on the outside of his pants because he ran a high fever when a toddler. Sure it is fun to watch his antics and you feel sorry for him, but you just can't seem to forget that time he took a shit on Aunt Beas lap and ruined the wedding.

So here's to you; you socialists in Spain, you indignant Frenchmen, you Nazis in Germany, you pacifist in Belguim, and you pot heads in Austria.

And here's to enjoying your antics until the next time you shit on Aunt Beas lap.

Clearly you've never been outside the US.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2006-04-15 17:33:30

Capt. Foley: Member; +155|6817|Allentown, PA, USA

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Capt. Foley wrote:
i saw on the point of existence forums about a new bunkerbusting bomb that is going to be tested in may
20,000 pounds of explosives and it will be the largests mushroom cloud scince a detination of a nuclear bomb

put a few of those on some B 52s
to bad its not ready or i think a few would already be around germany turkey or isreal just waiting for iran to make the next dumbass step
bunkerbusting nuclear bombs wont work, since if a bunker is 1000ft underground, the bomb would only be under ground only 50ft if its lucky, and the radiation will spread to as far as india. india will not like that will it? the best way is to use presicion guided bombs and hit all the entrances in the tunnel so no one can get in or out

no
it is explosive
nothing is radio active about it
its kinda like a 500lb bomb times 40 that will hit the ground and go boom
no radation is emmited
only problem is it is still a proto type

but they also have a 747 that is carrying a onboard lazer that can be used to shoot down ICBMs
the only problem is the first 1 isnt supposed to be delivered to the military until 2008 i think
it might be soon enough to help with North Korea if they are so stupid as to acctualy try something but sadly not soon enough to help Isreal probably

Last edited by Capt. Foley (2006-04-15 17:38:00)

2006-04-15 17:40:01

dankassasin42o: Member; +68|6908|Reefersyde, CA

Spark wrote:
The Iranian President is an imbecile who should be removed from office and placed in a sealed bunker.

Thankyou.

along with bush, cant leave 1 tyrannt and kill another. no take them all

2006-04-15 17:44:09

Nakryak: Member; +0|6830|France

Capt. Foley wrote:
no
it is explosive
nothing is radio active about it
its kinda like a 500lb bomb times 40 that will hit the ground and go boom
no radation is emmited
only problem is it is still a proto type

Wrong.

In order to be fully contained, nuclear explosions at the Nevada Test Site must be buried at a depth of 650 feet for a 5 kiloton explosive — 1300 feet for a 100-kiloton explosive.2 Even then, there are many documented cases where carefully sealed shafts ruptured and released radioactivity to the local environment.

Therefore, even if an earth penetrating missile were somehow able to drill hundreds of feet into the ground and then detonate, the explosion would likely shower the surrounding region with highly radioactive dust and gas.

Proponents of building a new generation of small nuclear weapons have seldom been specific about situations where nuclear devices would be able to perform a unique mission. The one clear scenario is using these warheads as a substitute for conventional weapons to attack deeply buried facilities. Based on the analysis here, however, this mission does not appear possible without causing massive radioactive contamination.

http://www.fas.org/faspir/2001/v54n1/weapons.htm

2006-04-15 17:44:36

Capt. Foley: Member; +155|6817|Allentown, PA, USA

i like bush
im not saying hes the best pres ever but hes better then clinton or kerry would of been

2006-04-15 18:15:23

blademaster: I'm moving to Brazil; +2,075|6874

looks like WORLD WAR 3 will erupt soon

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