BF2S Forums Hard Rain

Lucien wrote:

Looks great

This, unfortunately. Looks like what L4D should have been in the first place. Not so sure I want to buy it.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Every L4D2 interview/preview makes me and . Especially when its has so many original and awesome ideas in it like Hard Rain does.

Yep. It's like L4D should have been just a beta, and L4D2 should be L4D release client.

[another idea i'd be fine with is if valve gave us L4D2 for half off if you own L4D, or make it an expansion..., or incorporate some L4D2 stuff into free updates]

Well as always, it comes back to this. And I will not just forget about that and happily buy a sequel, because I believe what they did is flat out wrong.

My question to you yoda is how much time have you spent playing l4d?

Personally i'm creeping toward 150 hours which i would say was worth the $25 i spent on it. Sure Valve said they would do all sorts of things with it but at the end of the day the game has paid for itself in my eyes.

Peter wrote:

I still don't see how enough has changed that it couldn't have been added to L4D.

Enough has changed. Otherwised it wouldn't be fucking censored in this shithole that i live in.

According to my stats page i've played for 118 hours. But I feel that's irrelevant, partly because I didn't enjoy a massive chunk of those hours due to mountains of balance problems, bugs and the complete lack of competition in-game, partly because i've spent a large amount of that time on the menu trying to play, and mostly because I didn't get what I payed for.

I don't buy games that have 1 year lifespans. That's what console players do, not fans of Valve's games. Or so I thought. When I bought L4D, I was under the impression I was making a long term investment. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought it. Simple as that.

Now yes, i've had some good times with this game. Some great times even. But these times are far far outweighed by the sheer frustration of the rest of it, due to the lack of support or care from the L4D team.

Flecco wrote:

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

According to my stats page i've played for 118 hours. But I feel that's irrelevant, partly because I didn't enjoy a massive chunk of those hours due to mountains of balance problems, bugs and the complete lack of competition in-game, partly because i've spent a large amount of that time on the menu trying to play, and mostly because I didn't get what I payed for.

I don't buy games that have 1 year lifespans. That's what console players do, not fans of Valve's games. Or so I thought. When I bought L4D, I was under the impression I was making a long term investment. Otherwise I wouldn't have bought it. Simple as that.

Now yes, i've had some good times with this game. Some great times even. But these times are far far outweighed by the sheer frustration of the rest of it, due to the lack of support or care from the L4D team.

Turtle Rock are evil.

It amazes me that Turtle Rock were taken in by Valve but Gearbox never were.

thank fuck somebody else gets this. The massive amount of people whining about Valve never fucking shit up like this have no idea that it's not the same valve that's done everything right.

Spidery_Yoda wrote:

Whenever I complain about L4D, I specifically complain about the L4D team. I'm well aware that it's Turtle Rock that have been screwing us all over. They've really hurt Valve's image.

no doubt.

I love how this is one of the most hated maps in L4D2 now, while generic, old Dead Center's become the No Mercy of the game.

I love it too. The ending also gives zombies one of the best chances to sweep careless survivors to their doom.