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Peter wrote:

Playing in scrims doesn't automatically make people better players. Sure, most of the time it means they have had more practice and are more skilled. But I am sure there are many players who just play pubs and can't be bothered with the competitive scene, yet are better than the 'pro' players.

You make it sound like as soon as someone touches a scrim they become a god.

No, I am just saying that if you have never scrimmed, you don't understand the game.

I scrimmed source for a summer with friends, and I scrimmed 1.6 for a summer with friends. We were absolute shit. Like amagad we finally won a scrim, advertising for "cal-o/ogl GARBAGE". It's really different, really complex, and really fun.

Have you scrimmed 1.6?

No, but I'm still waiting for you to explain how a gun is suddenly better when you're scrimming. That has been my question this whole time.

A one body shot kill gun is absurd in the hands of learned player with fast reactions and good game sense. In a pub, you're right a lot of times you can just rush an awper and you have something like a 50/50 chance of getting him depending on how good you are and how good he is. In competition, an awp closes down lanes completely. If you try to rush an awper, the first person will die 99% of the time. Then if your team is good and the people behind him actually keep running and don't fucking block, then hopefully they will get him immediately after. It is not uncommon for 2+ people to die to one awper if the whole team rushes him.

Awps force different strategies completely. If your team rushes long but they have an awp already on the fifth round, you have to seriously consider what you're going to do next. If your team sucks and you don't have any smokes, you aren't going to make it to the bombsite with more than two people. Try to back up and go short quickly, they probably have another awper from mid there since you weren't picking, he can take 1-2 down pretty easy. 'Course if you stick around long too long, the rest of their team is already rotating to gank you from behind.

Same is true for a lot of other maps. A decent awper can lock down banana on inferno, unless you have another awp.

The fact is you are going to get laughed at and cut if you try to engage an awper in a scrim with an AK across any reasonable distance. In pubs people suck so you can get away with it, but if you don't at the very least chuck a smoke in a scrim you are just wasting a 3k gun.

Oh. my. god. go scrim. There are no "strategy guides" to read. You pick it up from experienced players. One guy who kinda led us had CAL-M experience, we picked up everything from him.

You don't understand how often the awper will win. If an awp jumps in pit and you're standing on bombsite watching long, you better get the hell towards cat.

No, they don't have a good chance of pegging you through the smoke. They have a chance, but they if you use it effectively and jump across gaps they are probably going to get at most one of you.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to keep arguing. You can take my word, someone who has actually scrimmed, about what a scrim is like and how it is/isn't like pubbing, or you can continue to believe your pub star status translates to scrims.