To both SMSgtDoc and Flavius Aetius.
Now why couldn't you have both answered as intelligently the first time around as you did the second time around? Why did I have to resort to pissing you off before a thought out rebuttle and answer could be produced?
Now that I know I'm actually debating here with both of you I'll stop with the inflamtory comments on my part and I'll do something unprecedented on these forums, I'll appologize to both of you for my crude and hasty remarks.
SMSgtDoc wrote:
Well actually I don't follow any particular party, I use my brain and vote for officials that match my same opinions. I'm actually quite pissed off at the current administration since they want to increase medical fees for retired military personnel. For us enlisted guys they want to increase it from $460/year to over $900/year and add 10% a year after that. It is even higher for retired officers.
But I do want to thank you for filing me away in a box somewhere based on my comments. I really appreciate that, and don't worry, I will go on blindly fighting for your freedom and if necessary I will die to ensure that you have the right to stereotype me.
That being said, please give me one specific example of an american citizen that has had their constitutional rights violated, please do it if you can. If a president making mistakes was a crime, every former president would be serving time, they are human beings, not GOD, they make mistakes.
It is nice to hear that there is noone in the Democratic party that has done any campaign fund violations, I was totally unaware of that. But thanks for setting me straight.
Oh and by the way, you get impeached for breaking the law, not making bad decisions....but thanks for taking the time to answer...noob
Heh noob. Touche. First let me say that I am glad that you actually use your brain when making decisions on whom to support and whom to not support. So many people do not use even an ounce of their brains when deciding something as important as a Presidential election and many just blindly follow in the footsteps of their families, peers or social groups. The cost of many thing is going up including the medical fees for retired military. My father is a retired Air Force Captain and most certainly will feel the pinch on his next routine hospital visit. When a grand majority of the funds that are funneled through the military are being used to fund a war such misc. costs are expected to rise and many other things will rise as well. I will not be surprised if the PX or Commissary start charging more normal department/grocery store prices although I don't see them putting a tax on it anytime soon. However that would be an interesting addition a military tax on items bought on base. So where is this money going? Is it truely all being used to fund the war in Iraq? How much are government contractors getting in rebuilding the infrastructure of Iraq (Halliburton)? There is no secret in how bloated government spending is and with Congress no longer keeping a budget in check I don't see this country bouncing back anytime soon.
As for the impeachment issue, the Center for Constitutional Rights has presented a charge against the president for illegal wiretapping without a Federal Court order. As it stands wiretapping can go without a warrent for 15 days. After which an order must be gotten and approved. There is a special court that rules in the cases where public knowledge would endanger the act and betray the action of wiretapping to those being wiretapped. Even though Bush and his administration could have easily gone through the proper channels they choose to believe that they had the right to supercede the laws of this land because of the country is in a state of war in Iraq. The war on Terrorism is not a "war" in the terms of Congress approving a declaration of war on another country. Hence we do not have a "War on Terror" regardless of how they want to word it. We did have a War in Iraq but that ended as soon as Suddam was found and brought to trial. We are now in a peace keeping mission if anything and no longer in a war. So no matter how Bush, being the front man to his administration, wants to word it, they still broke the law. When a citizen of this country breaks the law they are either fined or serve service or jail time. Is the president above the laws of the land? If charges are to be pressed and if he is found guilty then there is only two things that should be done. Either he should be impeached or he should resign. The movement for Censure will not do anything and will certainly not make this administration remove the illegal wiretapping. All a Censure will do is force the president to admit to a wrongdoing. After which if he continues to do so then that is a blatant slap in the face of Congress which would then promote an immediate impeachment process one would hope.
As for the Democrats, I mention nothing about them being above the law. Many of them have been involved in scandals in the past and the present. I dislike the Democrats almost as much as the Republicans at this point. I think neither party really has the honesty nor virtues that they once possessed. I myself am a Centrist and I would love nothing more for an established 3rd party to appear. I'm actually looking at John McCain as a presidental hopeful in 2008. As of now he has my vote if he because a presidential candidate.
Flavius Aetius wrote:
I am in the reserves. I don't know what you're watching, but the economy is on the rebound. My thoughts are the thoughts of all of those who care about the security of their country dearly.
How much do you personally know about military doctrine? Why would we need land forces in Iran? It's not a changing of the government, or a hunt for anything else. It would just be a simple 'lets blast the hell out of the facilities'mission. I do know what tuna is. Do you want to put forth a productive argument? You have a lack of experience in military matters as stands now with what you have put forward.
And with the dollar... its still the most widely accepted form of currency anywhere
Being in the reserves you have a very personal outlook on it's funding, training and treatment. How would you say your training has been in comparison to standing military troops. Has the training been increased since the war started? Do you believe that the Reserve Troops being sent to Iraq are adequately trained and equiped to do the job as standard military troops are?
As for the economy the 8 Trillion dollar debt is the biggest stamp of disapproval for it's future. The proven trend of other major countries cashing in their dollar reserves for precious metals or transfering them to Euro's which unfortunately aren't doing as well as they hoped. Which is why the Chinese are attempting to insert their own currency into the money markets and hope to compete with the Yen. The trend that the price of Gold is directly inversely proportional to the value of the dollor in history. That we the US no longer have a Gold store that our money is based upon, Fort Knox has been empty for years. Essentially the dollar is based upon credit and our countries credit rating is falling very quickly with other countries. The only saving grace is that our economy is huge so anything bad that happens to it directly effects the world's economy. Hence every country that is able is trying very hard to support our economy because they know if we fall they fall. We are proped up, we are being lent money and we are printing new money even more. The new quarters, the new nickles, new printing of bills. How do you think we keep approving more money to spend on the war when we already have an 8 Trillion dollar deficit? We are grinding ourselves into a hole that is just short of a bankrupt nation. The Yen is at an all time high compared to the dollar and the Euro is worth more than the Dollar is currently. Certainly the Dollar has been the representative currecy to all money in the world but that's because we are the largest economy in the world. We drive the world market. And if we fall.. the world falls with us.
Should I even go on about the price of oil/barrel the price of gasoline being at an all time high? That next winter will be even more expensive than this winter? That we are going into an energy crisis? Not to mention that all weather predicitions show that this hurricane and tornado season will be quite bad which means even more destruction and disaster relief. Insurance being paid out which makes premiums higher. Which we have to pay more of on a dollar that is worth less to the world that it was 6 years ago.
To us the normal citizen we may not see the warning lights but to economists that aren't being bribed to say false statements... the economy is alarming.
Thank you both on your rebuttle.
