ATG wrote:
Okay.
Are patients in the UK not denied kidney transplants if they have a history of
boozing? Are breast cancer victims not being
denied treatment? Is Canadas health care system not on the verge of
collapse?Is Obama not resurrecting
The Death Book?I say to my fellow Americans; you go right a head and bring those weapons to the town hall meetings, just act within the law.
I say to politicians and supporters of a socialized medicine;
GO FUCK YOURSELF
* edit;
more of an editorial than a thread tbh
I think I'm goin to have to hit the "Oh for fuck sakes" button on this one. Did you read these stories with an analytical eye or with a set of Fox news driven hysteria glasses? Well allow me to provide you with a Hysterectomy.
1. from the first story a 22 yr old alcoholic whose already killed his liver and needs a kidney transplant? the story says "The alcoholic, from Dagenham, Essex, had admitted binge drinking since he was 13 but was only taken to hospital for the first time with liver problems 10 weeks ago."
He comes into the hospital for the
first time with severe liver disease and needs a kidney. For the first time... He wasn't interested in taking care of himself or in getting cured, its sounds like the consequences of his actions caught up with his and then he got scared. I'm sure that he would have been put on dialysis and if that didn't help him then he was probably finished anyway. dead at 22 from alcoholism now that's really hard core he must have been drinking a one or two 40's of vodka a day for a while to do that to himself. This story is a sad use of a mother pain to make a politcal point that really doesn't show anything except 11 year old children shouldn't be given booze. This story is Just trying to scare those jim beam drink'n red necks.
2. second story. Breast cancer studies, or any cancer study looks at age and survival rates, the story says at a certain age treating with drugs is as effective on survival. They do the same thing with prostate cancer, you're 75 yrs old got prostate cancer that will kill in 10 years, chances are you're not going to live that long so why bother cutting out your prostate either. In fact the risks of surgeries on the elderly can outweigh the potential benefits. This story is just trying to scare women on this one.
3. third story. And the last people you want to talk to in Canada about Canadian Medicare is the Canadian Medical Assocation, talk about vested interests and a group that wants to make bundles of cash like their American cousins. If Canada's system is to be faulted for anything its that they have fee for service instead of paying all doctors a salary like in europe. In fact, the lump sum payment the Association is complaining about looks like a move towards putting doctors on salary.
4. fourth story. Lastly, the death
boards Books.... Well what can you say about trying to force people to tell other people what their wishes would be if they were to become medically incapacitated.... There is nothing wrong with that, its one of those things that everyone should do, and if you are one of those poeple who would want the plug pulled, then that person would be doing their family a favor if that person would put down the bottle of jim beam and write out their wishes so that their family wouldnt have to be tormented by being the ones to make the decision for the lazy sob. /my rant. Anyway advance directives are a far cry from euthanasia.
So people get old and die, people get sick and die, people drink or drug or get fat and ruin their health and die, people do stupid stuff get hurt and die. PErsonally I would rather not have a privateer insruance company, a greedy doctor and a morally bankrupt hospital jolly rogering my ass into the grave so that when I die my family can be put into the poor house. Good economic health care reform and a public option make good economic sense, just like the regulation of wall street and those crooks makes good ecoomic sense, calling that socialism is just red bating bullshit.
SO "I say to politicians and supporters who are for profiteering off of sick people, pushing sick people into bankruptcy, denying sick people health care, denying the poor health care and just plain mean and greedy big insurance centered medicine;"
GO FUCK YOURSELF
Anyway I would put these little stories right up there with "Obama death camps" "Obama hitler signs" and "false pleas to our free market economy" which doesn't really exist, and far fringe nut kobs showing up at town halls (with or without guns.) They make for face palm news stories. You just have to hope that no one is going to take these garbage stories too seriously and start shooting... but as you know there is always a small percentage that ruins it for the rest.
But I think I will follow your advice an go fuck myself.... time to turn on the porn, at least its more realistic than the news lately.