BF2S Forums The sportiness of chess

S3v3N wrote:

If you think about it.... doesn't all sports have some sort of risk for injury..

Hockey? getting beaten to death by a pissed of Canadian with a stick
Football?  Being tackled by a coke machine with arms and legs
Basketball? twising your ankle.
Tennis? Twisting yor ankle.
Ping Pong? Straining your wrist.
MotoX? Severe Head Injury from a long fall.
Soccer? getting kicked in the tenders

Chess?.. getting a rook throw at you, I don't think that counts.

Golf?
Billiards?
Darts?

Last edited by Ilocano (2009-06-22 17:13:36)

SamBo:D wrote:

Still, sports don't have to be physically demanding.

A game that is played competitively and abides by a set set of rules and is often played in tournaments or leagues.

Chess fits the description and is unfortunately considered a sport.

Nope.

google wrote:

Definitions of  sport on the Web:

an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition

thefreedictionary wrote:

1. a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
2.  An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
3. An active pastime; recreation.

dictionary.reference wrote:

1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

merriam-webster wrote:

(1): physical activity engaged in for pleasure
(2): a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in

dictionary.cambridge.org wrote:

1 [C] a game, competition or activity needing physical effort and skill that is played or done according to rules, for enjoyment and/or as a job:
2 [u] UK all types of physical activity which people do to keep healthy or for enjoyment:

encarta.msn.com wrote:

1. competitive physical activity: an individual or group competitive activity involving physical exertion or skill, governed by rules, and sometimes engaged in professionally

2. pastime: an active pastime participated in for pleasure or exercise

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_sp … zed_sports

http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/recogn … dex_uk.asp

What we used to do in Statute Law and is the standard practice for determining the meaning of a word is sentence association. You say a sentence with the word in question in it, (in this case "sport",) to determine whether something can be considered under this word.

For example, and this is taken directly from the paper I did two or three years ago, to determine whether a fish could be considered an animal under an act, (something about animal cruelty, I forget,) you can do this - the word in this case being "animal" you use sentences like:
"I went to the park and saw an animal."
"The animal swam across the pond."
"I was scared by the animal."

Some of these can be seen as biased, (i.e.e you don't see fish at a park and fish aren't all that scary,) but with the second one you can even put the word "animal" in a scenario where it's swimming and in the water and the fact that the animal is a fish still doesn't cross your mind. Therefore for the purposes in the act a fish is not an animal. In this case the people being charged with cruelty to an animal, (they ate someone's goldfish,) got off the charge.

When doing the same with "sport" you'll find that chess simply doesn't fit into the definition. This is in a legal sense of couse and any statute governing sports would probably include a definition of sport to include things like chess but an interesting excersie nonetheless, (or a pointless waste of time, whatever.)

Wow I haven't gone law school nerd in a while. So glad I don't do that any more.

S.Lythberg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

I love chess, but no, it is not a competition of physical skill, and not a sport

I wouldn't call it athletic. But it is certainly played for sport.

peak of fitness, right?

http://www.paulzarouii.com/crap/chess%20master.jpg

It is a game, but, lack of physical prowess keeps it from being a sport.  Personally, I only consider physical activities with active defense to be true sports, bowling, curling, golf, and the like aren't really sports.

(or maybe I'm just mad that i lost in the final round of the chess championship and got the slightly smaller trophy )

I hate to have to do this to you but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

A sport does not necessarily mean athletic competition. I would never suggest that it required physical fitness.

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned but the IOC considers it to be a sport also.

Kmarion wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I wouldn't call it athletic. But it is certainly played for sport.

peak of fitness, right?

http://www.paulzarouii.com/crap/chess%20master.jpg

It is a game, but, lack of physical prowess keeps it from being a sport.  Personally, I only consider physical activities with active defense to be true sports, bowling, curling, golf, and the like aren't really sports.

(or maybe I'm just mad that i lost in the final round of the chess championship and got the slightly smaller trophy )

I hate to have to do this to you but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

A sport does not necessarily mean athletic competition. I would never suggest that it required physical fitness.

I wouldn't blindly trust a wikipedia definition. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. … ;dict=CALD

dictionary.com wrote:

Sport
Pronunciation [spawrt, spohrt]
–noun
1.     An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Chess does not require physical prowess nor is it an athletic activity, thus, by definition, it is not a sport.  I win, you can close the thread now

Kmarion wrote:

-=]NS[=-Eagle wrote:

dictionary.com wrote:

Sport
Pronunciation [spawrt, spohrt]
–noun
1.     An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

Chess does not require physical prowess nor is it an athletic activity, thus, by definition, it is not a sport.  I win, you can close the thread now

Athletic just refers to a playing sport..lol. You must have missed the word "or". Chess certainly requires skill.

You win this round sir... (-_-)

Kmarion wrote:

mikkel wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

I hate to have to do this to you but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport

A sport does not necessarily mean athletic competition. I would never suggest that it required physical fitness.

I wouldn't blindly trust a wikipedia definition. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define. … ;dict=CALD

But you'll blindly trust a lesser explanation.

That's quite the assumption. I'm not blindly trusting, or asserting anything other than the fact that other, more credible sources offer more specific definitions. Ease up.

S3v3N wrote:

Ilocano wrote:

S3v3N wrote:

If you think about it.... doesn't all sports have some sort of risk for injury..

Hockey? getting beaten to death by a pissed of Canadian with a stick
Football?  Being tackled by a coke machine with arms and legs
Basketball? twising your ankle.
Tennis? Twisting yor ankle.
Ping Pong? Straining your wrist.
MotoX? Severe Head Injury from a long fall.
Soccer? getting kicked in the tenders

Chess?.. getting a rook throw at you, I don't think that counts.

Golf?
Billiards?
Darts?

Golf? Cart accident, getting hit in the noggin by a fly away ball.
Biliards?  Bubba beats the shit out of you with a pool cue
Darts?  Get your eye poked out.

That's just stupid, I could say

Chess? Your opponent smashing you around the face with the board

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

NOW ITS A SPORT CUS THERES RISK OF INJURY LOL

Either that or because it is a recognised sport;

SamBo:D wrote:

http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/recognized/index_uk.asp

There are physical sports: soccer, football, etc. Mental sports: chess, etc. Motor sports: F1, DTM, etc.

Obviously the physical sports are physically demanding.