BF2S Forums [Rumor] Next GTA to hit this winter?

Miggle wrote:

jord wrote:

bennisboy wrote:

Well thats all well and good jord. But there's this thing called "storage space" and on a dvd it is considerably smaller than on a BD, thet said they filled up the DVD for the 360 with GTA:IV, so how are they gonna add all that with no more room? Some of it maybe, not all of it

They are billion dollar companies, I'm sure they'll find a way...

Jesus Christ, some people are just fucking retarded.

This has to be the lamest excuse in history and yet I see it every day here. "They're rich so they can make this happen"

"Microsoft needs halo wars to be good, so it will be"

"Rockstar is rich so they can make DVDs as big as BDs"

"Sony's success depends on little big planet, so they can't fuck it up."

Jord, If they made GTAV for BDs, you would need 10 DVDs to play on xbox. Xbox is far more successful than PS3, not to mention Microsoft is throwing money at any developer making a game for the 360. We would prefer that it be a PS3 exclusive because they could fit more content in, but we know it's not going to happen.

Why make a better game when you'll make more money with a worse one? It's depressing, but that's the way gaming is going, it feels sort of like the Producers.

No you absolute tool I'm not retarded. You lack common sense or something? Would you prefer it in bold?

There are people far better at designing products, marketing them, finding ways around problems,etc than you will ever be. Especially when the company they work for has unlimited resources at their disposal. That is why you won't get your lame exclusive on the PS3. That is why you're fucking stupid and that is why you can GTFO back to PS3 forums. I don't give a shit about blu ray, I am confident Microsoft will do what is best and make the changing or whatever is needed as painless as possible.

Hopefully you read the bold, if not, re read.

Miggle wrote:

jord wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Jesus Christ, some people are just fucking retarded.

This has to be the lamest excuse in history and yet I see it every day here. "They're rich so they can make this happen"

"Microsoft needs halo wars to be good, so it will be"

"Rockstar is rich so they can make DVDs as big as BDs"

"Sony's success depends on little big planet, so they can't fuck it up."

Jord, If they made GTAV for BDs, you would need 10 DVDs to play on xbox. Xbox is far more successful than PS3, not to mention Microsoft is throwing money at any developer making a game for the 360. We would prefer that it be a PS3 exclusive because they could fit more content in, but we know it's not going to happen.

Why make a better game when you'll make more money with a worse one? It's depressing, but that's the way gaming is going, it feels sort of like the Producers.

No you absolute tool I'm not retarded. You lack common sense or something? Would you prefer it in bold?

There are people far better at designing products, marketing them, finding ways around problems,etc than you will ever be. Especially when the company they work for has unlimited resources at their disposal. That is why you won't get your lame exclusive on the PS3. That is why you're fucking stupid and that is why you can GTFO back to PS3 forums. I don't give a shit about blu ray, I am confident Microsoft will do what is best and make the changing or whatever is needed as painless as possible.

Hopefully you read the bold, if not, re read.

There are not people who can fit a 50gb game onto a DVD.

And I'm not serge, I don't post on PS3 forums. I want GTAV to be PS3 exclusive, not because it would be bad for the 360, but because it would allow it to be a truly better game.

No there are people that can think around things. People with common sense. There will be numerous board meetings on the subject since any decision could make or lose millions of dollars in game sales. People will not put a new disc in every 5 seconds and Microsoft as well as Rockstar know this.

jord wrote:

Miggle wrote:

jord wrote:

No you absolute tool I'm not retarded. You lack common sense or something? Would you prefer it in bold?

There are people far better at designing products, marketing them, finding ways around problems,etc than you will ever be. Especially when the company they work for has unlimited resources at their disposal. That is why you won't get your lame exclusive on the PS3. That is why you're fucking stupid and that is why you can GTFO back to PS3 forums. I don't give a shit about blu ray, I am confident Microsoft will do what is best and make the changing or whatever is needed as painless as possible.

Hopefully you read the bold, if not, re read.

There are not people who can fit a 50gb game onto a DVD.

And I'm not serge, I don't post on PS3 forums. I want GTAV to be PS3 exclusive, not because it would be bad for the 360, but because it would allow it to be a truly better game.

No there are people that can think around things. People with common sense. There will be numerous board meetings on the subject since any decision could make or lose millions of dollars in game sales. People will not put a new disc in every 5 seconds and Microsoft as well as Rockstar know this.

Exactly, which means they're stuck with the 4.7gb or so that a DVD has.

All the common sense in the world couldn't make a dvd 10x as big.

Last edited by Miggle (2009-01-15 14:50:40)

bennisboy wrote:

jord wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Jesus Christ, some people are just fucking retarded.

This has to be the lamest excuse in history and yet I see it every day here. "They're rich so they can make this happen"

"Microsoft needs halo wars to be good, so it will be"

"Rockstar is rich so they can make DVDs as big as BDs"

"Sony's success depends on little big planet, so they can't fuck it up."

Jord, If they made GTAV for BDs, you would need 10 DVDs to play on xbox. Xbox is far more successful than PS3, not to mention Microsoft is throwing money at any developer making a game for the 360. We would prefer that it be a PS3 exclusive because they could fit more content in, but we know it's not going to happen.

Why make a better game when you'll make more money with a worse one? It's depressing, but that's the way gaming is going, it feels sort of like the Producers.

No you absolute tool I'm not retarded. You lack common sense or something? Would you prefer it in bold?

There are people far better at designing products, marketing them, finding ways around problems,etc than you will ever be. Especially when the company they work for has unlimited resources at their disposal. That is why you won't get your lame exclusive on the PS3. That is why you're fucking stupid and that is why you can GTFO back to PS3 forums. I don't give a shit about blu ray, I am confident Microsoft will do what is best and make the changing or whatever is needed as painless as possible.

Hopefully you read the bold, if not, re read.

Jord you penis, maybe you should re-read what we've all said. We have said there will be no PS3 exclusive, and guess what... we dont care. We get to play the damn game whether or not its exclusive! We've just been pointing out that there is no way to put all that stuff you wanted on one DVD, and that disc swapping in a free roam game wont work, so it wont happen.

Now stop being a tool and accusing us of fanboyism, where nowhere have we bashed the 360, or said the ps3 is better, we've jus said it would be impossible to add all that on a dvd!

Re read what I said before you start getting in a fit. I said various times multi billion dollar companies will find a way to put this game on the 360 and make it as enjoyable as possible. You people don't seem to understand that. I can't take someone seriously who thinks Microsoft will bring out a game that you will have to change discs if you want to change island.

Miggle wrote:

jord wrote:

bennisboy wrote:

Jord you penis, maybe you should re-read what we've all said. We have said there will be no PS3 exclusive, and guess what... we dont care. We get to play the damn game whether or not its exclusive! We've just been pointing out that there is no way to put all that stuff you wanted on one DVD, and that disc swapping in a free roam game wont work, so it wont happen.

Now stop being a tool and accusing us of fanboyism, where nowhere have we bashed the 360, or said the ps3 is better, we've jus said it would be impossible to add all that on a dvd!

Re read what I said before you start getting in a fit. I said various times multi billion dollar companies will find a way to put this game on the 360 and make it as enjoyable as possible. You people don't seem to understand that. I can't take someone seriously who thinks Microsoft will bring out a game that you will have to change discs if you want to change island.

Nobody but you is saying that.

We're saying that won't happen, but it would if they made the game for BDs rather than DVDs. Therefore, they're going to make a game with hardly any content, like GTAIV.

You're the one being a fanboy. You're the one getting upset because some people said BDs are better than DVDs. It's a fact that a BD can hold a lot more than a DVD, and that means that you could have a lot bigger game on a BD than a DVD. That's why we want PS3 exclusivity, because it would allow them to make a much bigger game.

No Bennis said it, fucking read.

And actually I'm not getting upset about Blu ray, I don't give a shit. You wanted to bring name calling into it so I'll bite back, prick.

Blu ray is better, fact.

Xbox 360 generates massive income for Rockstar, fact.

Zimmer wrote:

Ladies, please. Keep it down.

Lets keep id at this:  The game will not be PS3 exclusive but Blu Ray is better.

Agree to disagree and move the fuck on.

We've been saying that the whole time.

and yes, the 360 is a massive income for rockstar, moreso than the PS3, so even though a PS3 exclusive has the ability to be a better game, it won't make as much money, and that's the only thing that matters.

I said that last page.

Basically I can't think of any solution that would make changing disks acceptable and if we want more content for the next GTA then they will HAVE to use multiple disks. What I see happening is: you will get the basic plain game i.e. GTAIV, then will have to pay for downloadable content.

They can't have a forced install, not all XBox's have HD's.
They can't realistically have a disk change between Islands as that would be balls.
They can't realistically have a disk change between indoor areas and an outside open world as that would be balls.
They can't release it on Blu Ray as XBox's don't have it.
They can't release it as a PS3 exclusive because they would lose so much money and have already taken Microsoft's money.

I can really only see DLC as a solution, and tbh that takes the fucking piss.

Alternatively they might have to go back on the whole point behind GTAIV, making a more realistic experience by reducing poly counts, sound quality and texture resolution.

Last edited by Vilham (2009-01-15 15:30:35)

Vilham wrote:

Basically I can't think of any solution that would make changing disks acceptable and if we want more content for the next GTA then they will HAVE to use multiple disks. What I see happening is: you will get the basic plain game i.e. GTAIV, then will have to pay for downloadable content.

They can't have a forced install, not all XBox's have HD's.
They can't realistically have a disk change between Islands as that would be balls.
They can't realistically have a disk change between indoor areas and an outside open world as that would be balls.
They can't release it on Blu Ray as XBox's don't have it.
They can't release it as a PS3 exclusive because they would lose so much money and have already taken Microsoft's money.

I can really only see DLC as a solution, and tbh that takes the fucking piss.

Alternatively they might have to go back on the whole point behind GTAIV, making a more realistic experience by reducing poly counts, sound quality and texture resolution.

They'll never exchange graphics for gameplay.

ever.

Miggle wrote:

Zimmer wrote:

Ladies, please. Keep it down.

Lets keep id at this:  The game will not be PS3 exclusive but Blu Ray is better.

Agree to disagree and move the fuck on.

We've been saying that the whole time.

and yes, the 360 is a massive income for rockstar, moreso than the PS3, so even though a PS3 exclusive has the ability to be a better game, it won't make as much money, and that's the only thing that matters.

I said that last page.

Now that´s just bullshit. C´mon, just because the storage space on the disk is bigger the game might improve? Bollocks. They most likely use sloppy programming ("cause we gots the space anyways") or just put more or extended movies on it.

There will be most likely several DVD´s to intall the game, and one to keep in drive to play it. As for XBoxes without (enough) HDD, they most likely find a way around it.

Vilham wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Miggle wrote:

We've been saying that the whole time.

and yes, the 360 is a massive income for rockstar, moreso than the PS3, so even though a PS3 exclusive has the ability to be a better game, it won't make as much money, and that's the only thing that matters.

I said that last page.

Now that´s just bullshit. C´mon, just because the storage space on the disk is bigger the game might improve? Bollocks. They most likely use sloppy programming ("cause we gots the space anyways") or just put more or extended movies on it.

There will be most likely several DVD´s to intall the game, and one to keep in drive to play it. As for XBoxes without (enough) HDD, they most likely find a way around it.

Firstly lol at programming taking up lots of disk space.

Secondly lol at thinking there will be any kind of install required to play.

Firstly, sloppy programming can require more disk space simply due to more code lines needed.
Secondly, a required (partly) install might be a possible way of fewer or no disc change.
Thirdly, lol

Last edited by Sisco10 (2009-01-16 06:49:12)

Sisco10 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Sisco10 wrote:

Now that´s just bullshit. C´mon, just because the storage space on the disk is bigger the game might improve? Bollocks. They most likely use sloppy programming ("cause we gots the space anyways") or just put more or extended movies on it.

There will be most likely several DVD´s to intall the game, and one to keep in drive to play it. As for XBoxes without (enough) HDD, they most likely find a way around it.

Firstly lol at programming taking up lots of disk space.

Secondly lol at thinking there will be any kind of install required to play.

Firstly, sloppy programming can require more disk space simply due to more code lines needed.
Secondly, a required (partly) install might be a possible way of fewer or no disc change.
Thirdly, lol

Im sorry but are you claiming a TEXT file is going to fill up any kind of considerable disk space. Seriously quit your arguement before you have dug your self any deeper.

Microsoft have already stated there will be no forced installs on their console. Rockstar and Microsoft are not going to make a game that changes quite fundamentally the experience depending on the user having a harddrive; im pretty damn certain most of the xbox's sold are arcade although the individual figures have never been released that's alot of customer to piss off.

Exactly. Rockstar is a business, they are there to make money, if they can sell the next GTA game as well as GTAIV without adding new content they will. Stop thinking the executives at Rockstar care. Im sure the designers want to do loads of things, but it will all come down to the bosses as to whether it will happen.