BF2S Forums I play World of Warcraft.

It was a pretty fun game but I realized how much it took away from other games once I took a break. My subscription ran up and I told my guild I was going to take a week break from WoW. During that week I played all the other games I used to play and realized that I hardly ever have time for those games while playing WoW and forgot how fun they were. I did another month subscription to WoW since I was really good friends with most of the guild and knew several of them in real life so I played again anyway. The guild ended up breaking up during finals time for spring semester and the back ups sucked so a lot of people just gave up on the guild. When that happened, I just stopped playing. I haven't bought WotLK and a couple of my friends agreed to level and pay the monthly subscription for the game if I bought WotLK but I still decided not to. Games are great to kill time with, but you kill too much time with WoW.

Fat_Swinub wrote:

Same thing happens for regular games. If the game fails you lose money on it. With MMOs because the majority of them are subscription based (or like guild wars have about 3 expansions) they see a good chunk of money from that unlike most games which is a one-time purchase.

You aren't paying attention to the customer end.

I can buy Jonny Shooter from Bubba Games today and they discontinue support after two years, chances are I'll still be able to play Jonny Shooter into 2020 and beyond. If I buy Billy MMO from Bubba Games and invest 1000 hours into a character over the course of a year and the company drops it, the only people left to handle the servers will be the publisher (for as long as they're willing). But ultimately, there'd go my server-side characters, hours spent equipping them and extra deposits per month to continue playing. A third party could take up the mantle, but you'd have to start from scratch.

Case: Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.

The company failed, but it kept getting patched by a third party and is still playable today.

Kptk92 wrote:

Personally, I am put off by the hating from many people of the game. I haven't actually tried it.

I'm put off by the fact that if I started now, I'd have to learn all the arcane acronyms and nicknames for stuff and endure the condescending tones of people half my age when I ask a question. Thus, I'd only play it with friends.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2009-01-07 08:54:46)

wow is definately a great game, always has been. However for the past 6-7 months I just haven't had time for it. It requires too much time to really get the good stuff out of it. Might get WOTLK in like 6 months.

Fat_Swinub wrote:

WoW is pretty much the worse thing to happen to PC gaming ever and I hope the whole MMO genre dies like point and clicks.

Sigh.

The MMO genre is most of the PC gaming industry.

Every other genre is being shipped off, downscaled and prettily-packaged for console kiddies. Every FPS series that were birthed and found success on the PC (e.g. Call of Duty) have long ago shed off their birth parent and now stomp around on Xbox Live entertaining hordes of 13 year olds the world over. RTS games are slowly being made into a novelty gimmick on consoles also... Halo Wars being an upcoming and hugely hyped example. The wide-ranging and deep RPG game has been effectively diluted down into an FPS game with stats and collectible items, ala Fallout 3. Consoles and every other genre are the only things I see suffering or becoming 'worse' about PC gaming. How are MMO's the "worst thing to happen"? By being outrageously successful and making huge amounts of money, drawing tons of publicity and funding into the industry, as well as stimulating lots more consumer spending and clone-game developments? Sheesh, terrible. You're right Swinub, we need more shitty Command & Conquer abortions and a few more reskinned mods of Call of Duty!

I played WoW since release, and although my drive to play the game has slowly dissipated with each expansion pack (in my opinion it has been getting easier and easier for the casual scrub-nub ever since day one, and this is a bad concept in ANY MMO) and I will still defend the game in every thread it is pathetically ragged on. I get called a WoW geek here and get accused of playing World of Warcraft here all the time simply because I'm probably the only wiseass in most of the threads that has actually played both WoW and other FPS games such as BF2 for more than 100 hours each. Opinions are fine, informed opinions are better. As Morgan very wisely said, WoW is a brilliant game despite the kiddish 'anti-WoW' bandwagon, and is more gratifying and entertaining than playing Karkand for 500 hours in certain senses. As he rightfully pointed out, people that accuse WoW of being repetitive when it has a game-world that takes literally hours and hours to travel across with a plethora of variation and challenge should look at their BF2 stats... what was that? 500 hours spent playing infantry only Karkand using an AK47, rinse and repeat? Hmm.

Vilham, I'm actually going to give you some advice: Try WoTLK. If 'too much time devotion' is your main gripe with WoW, WotLK will soothe your pains. Any casual gamer can now get half-decent epic gear and complete all the end-game raiding. It's a sad thing for many of the 'oldschool' players that used to like the challenge and dedication required for such a feat... but they're a miniature minority nowadays. Enjoi!

Last edited by Uzique (2009-01-07 09:42:27)

Hack and slash in an MMO just wouldn't work... the combat is extremely fluid though, complex and intuitive. There's a free trial, that's probably the best way to try the early and basic stages of the game with a 'limit' and finite amount of time before you actually have to commit to paying any money. What do you lose or gain in a week of play? Meh.

Sounds like 7 Dragons sucks, then.

Oh wait, "free MMO". Ding ding ding.

What's that got to do with Warcraft? I dare you to humour people that have actually experienced WoW with a comparison/relation.

Zimmer wrote:

I was wondering whether I should try it or not. I love games like Fable, Oblivion and the such, but I thought I would give WoW a miss because I have the feeling I would get addicted. I don't want that to happen, even if it is an incredible game which is worth me spending 5 hours locked up playing it. I don't want to find that out.

The only thing that I disliked about the whole WoW thing was the fact that there was no "hack and slash" style combat. That is why I adore Fable and WoW never really got me. I understand why people find it so great, and I have played it, but I think it would be better to stay away from it.

Rogues are pretty close to hack and slash. I have 2 70s, shamen from the very start and a rogue i made last time i had a stint on the game. The rogue is awesome to play.

phishman420 wrote:

I tried it 2 different times; I lasted less than 5 minutes each time. Most boring, retarded, gay game I've ever played. I see how some people could enjoy it, but I would rather do nothing than play that shit.

You played a game for 5 minutes. That'll surely give you a good look at the game...
That's like only getting to the loading screen in BF2 and basing your opinions on the music.

Last edited by Gawwad (2009-01-07 10:45:52)

I played the 10-day demo of WoW and I have to say, my opinion of it changed. 

Like most people, I disliked WoW simply because of what it does to people.  Then I thought of something.  Don't hate the game, hate the people who are obsessed instead.  It's like the old saying that guns don't kill people; people kill people.  So like I said, I gave it a try.  I got to level 16 in 7 days and had to stop due to a vacation.

I didn't have any friends to play it with, but when I was able to find a party (which is easier said than done on the trial account because trial players can't start parties), the game was exponentially more fun.  If I could get a group of friends to play the game, I would undoubtedly go back to try it.  You really shouldn't knock the game until you've at least tried it.

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Yeah, I used to be one of the people who made fun of the game.  I used to be one of the ones who pretty much only played FPS games or, sporadically, RTS.  I play consoles, which aren't as conducive to RPGs as PCs are.

But I digress.

Anyway, I gave WoW a try a few months ago and I thought it was the most boring thing ever.  I killed boars for about four hours and then quit.

A couple weeks ago a friend wanted me to try again because she was looking for someone to play with.  So I did.  And I actually played the game instead of just sitting outside of a house killing some defenseless animal.  And now I'm addicted.

While WoW is repetitive (yeah, basically all it is is point and click), the storyline is actually quite good.  The quests are all pretty entertaining and they give you reasons to explore the world, meet up with other people, and kill everything from cute little level one rabbits to whatever the hell the monsters are that kill me when I look at them.

But really, it's not any worse than a game like BF2.  I spent over 1000 hours playing BF2.  I can't count how many times I played Karkand and rushed the hotel just to die.  That was just as repetitive, if not moreso, than WoW.  Or playing as a medic.  Or hell, even flying in a helicopter.  And basically, all that is is point and click also.  But I loved BF2.

So while I'm somewhat embarrassed to be all "yeah, I play WoW", it actually is an incredibly entertaining game.  While there were times in BF2 when I'd get annoyed because I thought someone was hacking...or because I kept getting killed by the same guy in a jet...in WoW there isn't anything like that.  If you can't get past a part, go do something else, level up, come back, and destroy whatever was holding you back before.

It's an incredibly gratifying game.

Hey I started playing because of my friends also, its better when you have someone you know playing I think.

TMo status goes from "rock bottom" to "wowfag"

Never thought I'd see the day.... this is one to tell the grand kids

My game is better than your game.
Oh yeah? But my dad has a bigger car.

ffs. What are we, 10?