Poll

Good or Bad?

Good47%47% - 35
Bad39%39% - 29
Undecided.12%12% - 9
Total: 73
Stimey
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Pros:
Basic Shooter
Large variety of weapons
A degree of customization (armor, emblem)
Always people online

Cons:
No one plays it for the story (I haven't either)
fanbois
Maybe too generic of a shooter
Not enough ranked game modes.

8.5/10
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Poseidon
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Stimey wrote:

Pros:
Cons:
No one plays it for the story (I haven't either)
I lol'd.

Sorry, but that's just not true at all. Maybe you didn't, but I'd say a good majority of the people did. There's a reason why the books they release are very successful.
Stimey
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Alright but the only reason I've heard people play the story is for more armorz.
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Poseidon
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Stimey wrote:

Alright but the only reason I've heard people play the story is for more armorz.
Well, I'm just saying. It's not true at all.

Plus, the Skulls/Metagame add replayability to the campaign.
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Poseidon wrote:

Stimey wrote:

Pros:
Cons:
No one plays it for the story (I haven't either)
I lol'd.

Sorry, but that's just not true at all. Maybe you didn't, but I'd say a good majority of the people did. There's a reason why the books they release are very successful.
Exactly.  My favorite part of Halo has always been the story.  I read the books a couple years ago and found them to be very good.  That is why I thought Halo 3 was awful.  To me it seemed like they spent all those years making a great multiplayer, and then at the last min. were like "shit, we still have to make a campaign," and half assed the ending of the series.  I didn't even play the mp on the first two and I like them much more than 3.

Guess it just depends on who you are
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Mint Sauce
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Poseidon wrote:

inb4baselesshalohate.

You know this thread isn't going to go down well.
Learn to accept other people's opinions.
#rekt
FatherTed
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Poseidon wrote:

Stimey wrote:

Pros:
Cons:
No one plays it for the story (I haven't either)
I lol'd.

Sorry, but that's just not true at all. Maybe you didn't, but I'd say a good majority of the people did. There's a reason why the books they release are very successful.
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Mint Sauce wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

inb4baselesshalohate.

You know this thread isn't going to go down well.
Learn to accept other people's opinions.
I accept people's opinions IF THEY HAVE BACKING. Which, frankly...most of the Halo haters don't have.

It's funny, you tell me to accept others opinions, but you don't tell anyone else. Like the people who attack Halo/360 threads for absolutely no reason.

Hmm.

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Poseidon wrote:

Mint Sauce wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

inb4baselesshalohate.

You know this thread isn't going to go down well.
Learn to accept other people's opinions.
I accept people's opinions IF THEY HAVE BACKING. Which, frankly...most of the Halo haters don't have.

It's funny, you tell me to accept others opinions, but you don't tell anyone else. Like the people who attack Halo/360 threads for absolutely no reason.

Hmm.
And your backing is?
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FatherTed
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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Mint Sauce wrote:


Learn to accept other people's opinions.
I accept people's opinions IF THEY HAVE BACKING. Which, frankly...most of the Halo haters don't have.

It's funny, you tell me to accept others opinions, but you don't tell anyone else. Like the people who attack Halo/360 threads for absolutely no reason.

Hmm.
And your backing is?
He's played the series quite intensively. Most critisisers probably haven't, and are just jumping on some e-bandwagon.
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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Mint Sauce wrote:


Learn to accept other people's opinions.
I accept people's opinions IF THEY HAVE BACKING. Which, frankly...most of the Halo haters don't have.

It's funny, you tell me to accept others opinions, but you don't tell anyone else. Like the people who attack Halo/360 threads for absolutely no reason.

Hmm.
And your backing is?
I've provided plenty of backing. You just refuse to see it.

I love the SP's story, it's got depth and is very interesting...and the MP is a lot of fun and recieves constant updates, even thoug I don't really play it. I could go on and on, but every time I do it proves pointless. Because no matter what, you and others are going to consistentely troll the Halo threads until you're banned.

So oh well.
Miggle
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FatherTed wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

I accept people's opinions IF THEY HAVE BACKING. Which, frankly...most of the Halo haters don't have.

It's funny, you tell me to accept others opinions, but you don't tell anyone else. Like the people who attack Halo/360 threads for absolutely no reason.

Hmm.
And your backing is?
He's played the series quite intensively. Most critisisers probably haven't, and are just jumping on some e-bandwagon.
I haven't played it hundreds of hours no.

I have played it pretty much every time I've ever been to a friend's house.

I have a couple friends who consider themselves pr0 g4m3rz and obsess over their 360s.

He criticizes SS2 and hasn't played it at all.

Psoeidon wrote:

I've provided plenty of backing. You just refuse to see it.
Me too.

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Poseidon
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Miggle wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Miggle wrote:


And your backing is?
He's played the series quite intensively. Most critisisers probably haven't, and are just jumping on some e-bandwagon.
I haven't played it hundreds of hours no.

I have played it pretty much every time I've ever been to a friend's house.

I have a couple friends who consider themselves pr0 g4m3rz and obsess over their 360s.

He criticizes SS2 and hasn't played it at all.
I've played the whole halo series probably a total of 40 hours. 15 or so for the first game, 10 or so for the second, 15 or so for the third.

I criticize SS2 to make a point to you, which you obviously still fail to understand.
FatherTed
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Miggle wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Miggle wrote:


And your backing is?
He's played the series quite intensively. Most critisisers probably haven't, and are just jumping on some e-bandwagon.
I haven't played it hundreds of hours no.

I have played it pretty much every time I've ever been to a friend's house.

I have a couple friends who consider themselves pr0 g4m3rz and obsess over their 360s.

He criticizes SS2 and hasn't played it at all.

Psoeidon wrote:

I've provided plenty of backing. You just refuse to see it.
Me too.
I said most.

I acknowledge you've plenty of gaming experience, so i put your dislike down to purely taste. However most anti-halo posters i doubt have ever run all the way through even one of the games.
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Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


He's played the series quite intensively. Most critisisers probably haven't, and are just jumping on some e-bandwagon.
I haven't played it hundreds of hours no.

I have played it pretty much every time I've ever been to a friend's house.

I have a couple friends who consider themselves pr0 g4m3rz and obsess over their 360s.

He criticizes SS2 and hasn't played it at all.
I've played the whole halo series probably a total of 40 hours. 15 or so for the first game, 10 or so for the second, 15 or so for the third.

I criticize SS2 to make a point to you, which you obviously still fail to understand.
Elaborate?

this point seems to be that you are willing to whine about a game simply because it is old, yet you fall for the constant overhyped shit games we have today, because they're pretty.
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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

I haven't played it hundreds of hours no.

I have played it pretty much every time I've ever been to a friend's house.

I have a couple friends who consider themselves pr0 g4m3rz and obsess over their 360s.

He criticizes SS2 and hasn't played it at all.
I've played the whole halo series probably a total of 40 hours. 15 or so for the first game, 10 or so for the second, 15 or so for the third.

I criticize SS2 to make a point to you, which you obviously still fail to understand.
Elaborate?

this point seems to be that you are willing to whine about a game simply because it is old, yet you fall for the constant overhyped shit games we have today, because they're pretty.
I figured it'd be simple enough to get. Guess not.

I wasn't whining, I was being facetious. And you still fail to get my point. Like Halo because it's PRETTY? ROFL, I was playing it on a fucking 20" 10 year old CRT TV up until April.

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Miggle
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Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I've played the whole halo series probably a total of 40 hours. 15 or so for the first game, 10 or so for the second, 15 or so for the third.

I criticize SS2 to make a point to you, which you obviously still fail to understand.
Elaborate?

this point seems to be that you are willing to whine about a game simply because it is old, yet you fall for the constant overhyped shit games we have today, because they're pretty.
I figured it'd be simple enough to get. Guess not.

I wasn't whining, I was being facetious. And you still fail to get my point. Like Halo because it's PRETTY? ROFL, I was playing it on a fucking 20" 10 year old CRT TV up until April.
So you're making fun of me by acting like a douchebag?

I criticize halo from experience.

I have plenty of reasons not to like it.

You criticize SS2 due to it's "1998 graphics oooh scary"

That's not being facetious, that's being a faggot.
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FatherTed
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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:


Elaborate?

this point seems to be that you are willing to whine about a game simply because it is old, yet you fall for the constant overhyped shit games we have today, because they're pretty.
I figured it'd be simple enough to get. Guess not.

I wasn't whining, I was being facetious. And you still fail to get my point. Like Halo because it's PRETTY? ROFL, I was playing it on a fucking 20" 10 year old CRT TV up until April.
So you're making fun of me by acting like a douchebag?

I criticize halo from experience.

I have plenty of reasons not to like it.

You criticize SS2 due to it's "1998 graphics oooh scary"

That's not being facetious, that's being a faggot.
In brief, what are your (personal) reasons for not liking Halo 1-3?
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Poseidon
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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:


Elaborate?

this point seems to be that you are willing to whine about a game simply because it is old, yet you fall for the constant overhyped shit games we have today, because they're pretty.
I figured it'd be simple enough to get. Guess not.

I wasn't whining, I was being facetious. And you still fail to get my point. Like Halo because it's PRETTY? ROFL, I was playing it on a fucking 20" 10 year old CRT TV up until April.
So you're making fun of me by acting like a douchebag?

I criticize halo from experience.

I have plenty of reasons not to like it.

You criticize SS2 due to it's "1998 graphics oooh scary"

That's not being facetious, that's being a faggot.
Yes, because it's a complete play on how ridiculous you are when it comes to games, and what a failure of an attempted troll you are when it comes to trying to be one.

Apparentely, it's working.

You can very easily not like a game and then not attack it in every thread you see fit. You don't see I or Ted attacking MGS4 threads for a reason.
Miggle
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FatherTed wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I figured it'd be simple enough to get. Guess not.

I wasn't whining, I was being facetious. And you still fail to get my point. Like Halo because it's PRETTY? ROFL, I was playing it on a fucking 20" 10 year old CRT TV up until April.
So you're making fun of me by acting like a douchebag?

I criticize halo from experience.

I have plenty of reasons not to like it.

You criticize SS2 due to it's "1998 graphics oooh scary"

That's not being facetious, that's being a faggot.
In brief, what are your (personal) reasons for not liking Halo 1-3?
Of course firstly that problem of being a console game. Console controllers are awful.

but even for that the vehicles are completely overpowered in multiplayer. I was playing Blood Gulch a while back and was completely destroying some of the "pr0s" in the ghost? banshee? idk the flying thing.

I don't like how it has changed the video game market towards largely hyped but largely shit games. Where money is spent on pre-rendered trailers and advertisement rather than on game development.

I don't like the awful rank system. I was at Arlington Cemetery on a school trip, one of the kids saw a brigadier general's grave, he was talking to my friend and he said something along the lines of "that guy was a brigadier general, like a brigadier in halo, he must have been like, in charge of the army"

I don't like the grenades. Often I'll be moving in to bash someone, he'll toss a grenade, and I'll kill him, but the grenade will kill me.

I don't think the story is very different from any other science fiction book, movie, or game.

I don't like how it is seen as one of the best FPS games ever, when it's not best at anything, Gameplay, Multiplayer, Graphics, Plot, anything.

I don't like when people consider themselves to be good at aiming when the computer does half the work for them.

I don't like the kids that it attracts, though it is sometimes fun to make fun of them on XBL.
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Fat_Swinub
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Halo was good because it has big interesting environments, vehicles and good AI which scaled well on the higher difficulties (the enemies got smarter as the game got harder, not just you having less HP). Halo 2 was ok bit disappointing. The large environments with sandbox combat was gone. The enemies instead of outsmarting you would just out-HP you and be 100% accurate with their weapons on legendary. Halo 3 brought back the big environments of Halo and toned down the aimbot using AI but they still weren't intelligent in that they'd use the environment well and they'd rally their allies.

They're all fun games but what sold Halo to me was the AI on legendary and how that was scaled instead of having dumb laser-straight accuracy drones. That never seemed to really return but at least Halo 3 brought back the huge environments.
Miggle
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Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I figured it'd be simple enough to get. Guess not.

I wasn't whining, I was being facetious. And you still fail to get my point. Like Halo because it's PRETTY? ROFL, I was playing it on a fucking 20" 10 year old CRT TV up until April.
So you're making fun of me by acting like a douchebag?

I criticize halo from experience.

I have plenty of reasons not to like it.

You criticize SS2 due to it's "1998 graphics oooh scary"

That's not being facetious, that's being a faggot.
Yes, because it's a complete play on how ridiculous you are when it comes to games, and what a failure of an attempted troll you are when it comes to trying to be one.

Apparentely, it's working.

You can very easily not like a game and then not attack it in every thread you see fit. You don't see I or Ted attacking MGS4 threads for a reason.
You don't accept other peoples opinions.

You guys could attack MGS4, I would be fine with that. I would disagree with you, and I would defend MGS4.

We could debate.

And I wouldn't call you a troll.
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FatherTed
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Miggle wrote:

Of course firstly that problem of being a console game. Console controllers are awful.
That's simple preference, and the millions of console owners worldwide would disagree

but even for that the vehicles are completely overpowered in multiplayer. I was playing Blood Gulch a while back and was completely destroying some of the "pr0s" in the ghost? banshee? idk the flying thing.
totally not true, anyone in any vehicle instantly becomes a marked target for anyone with common sense

I don't like how it has changed the video game market towards largely hyped but largely shit games. Where money is spent on pre-rendered trailers and advertisement rather than on game development.
Game devs are in the market to make money, lose the silly notion the big ones give two shits what most of us think

I don't like the awful rank system. I was at Arlington Cemetery on a school trip, one of the kids saw a brigadier general's grave, he was talking to my friend and he said something along the lines of "that guy was a brigadier general, like a brigadier in halo, he must have been like, in charge of the army"
and BF2/COD/Any ranked FPS is any better? Weak point tbh

I don't like the grenades. Often I'll be moving in to bash someone, he'll toss a grenade, and I'll kill him, but the grenade will kill me.
Waaay less nade spam in Halo - Dual wielding solves this v.well

I don't think the story is very different from any other science fiction book, movie, or game.
Just like any game out there

I don't like how it is seen as one of the best FPS games ever, when it's not best at anything, Gameplay, Multiplayer, Graphics, Plot, anything.
sheer sales + user satisfaction prove you wrong

I don't like when people consider themselves to be good at aiming when the computer does half the work for them.
sticks are a massive disadvantage, And Halo hardly has the most intrusive auto aim out there

I don't like the kids that it attracts, though it is sometimes fun to make fun of them on XBL.

this is a XBL wide problem, ever tried CoD4/PGR?
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Miggle wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Miggle wrote:


So you're making fun of me by acting like a douchebag?

I criticize halo from experience.

I have plenty of reasons not to like it.

You criticize SS2 due to it's "1998 graphics oooh scary"

That's not being facetious, that's being a faggot.
Yes, because it's a complete play on how ridiculous you are when it comes to games, and what a failure of an attempted troll you are when it comes to trying to be one.

Apparentely, it's working.

You can very easily not like a game and then not attack it in every thread you see fit. You don't see I or Ted attacking MGS4 threads for a reason.
You don't accept other peoples opinions.

You guys could attack MGS4, I would be fine with that. I would disagree with you, and I would defend MGS4.

We could debate.

And I wouldn't call you a troll.
I accept people's opinion's plenty. You just fail to see that because I don't accept yours, after your repeated trolling of threads of things you don't like. I also like Star Wars: TFU, and if someone doesn't like it (which many people didn't), that's fine. Just don't go trolling in a thread with people who DO like it, or atleast provide direct and positive criticism, not "OMG IT'Z TEH OVERRATED".

Nor I or Ted are going to attack an MGS4 thread, because we know people here enjoy it, and we're not going to "rain on their parade" as they say. Do we not like the game? Sure. But we keep it to ourselves in a thread where people are posting that they DO like it.

If we REALLY wanted to say we didn't like it, we'd do it in a correct way that doesn't insult anybody and simply positively states why we don't want/like it. Apparentely that whole concept is foreign to you, though.
Miggle
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FatherTed wrote:

Miggle wrote:

Of course firstly that problem of being a console game. Console controllers are awful.
That's simple preference, and the millions of console owners worldwide would disagree
Except they generally haven't used a mouse. Think about it, mice exist to point and click. What are you doing in an FPS?

but even for that the vehicles are completely overpowered in multiplayer. I was playing Blood Gulch a while back and was completely destroying some of the "pr0s" in the ghost? banshee? idk the flying thing.
totally not true, anyone in any vehicle instantly becomes a marked target for anyone with common sense
Hardly, the guys with the highest kill streaks generally got them in vehicles

I don't like how it has changed the video game market towards largely hyped but largely shit games. Where money is spent on pre-rendered trailers and advertisement rather than on game development.
Game devs are in the market to make money, lose the silly notion the big ones give two shits what most of us think
True, there's no real solution to this, but it's upsetting

I don't like the awful rank system. I was at Arlington Cemetery on a school trip, one of the kids saw a brigadier general's grave, he was talking to my friend and he said something along the lines of "that guy was a brigadier general, like a brigadier in halo, he must have been like, in charge of the army"
and BF2/COD/Any ranked FPS is any better? Weak point tbh
Um, yeah... They used a ranking system that was pretty close to the real one. They didn't just take the current ranks and throw them in no specific order and remove a few words

I don't like the grenades. Often I'll be moving in to bash someone, he'll toss a grenade, and I'll kill him, but the grenade will kill me.
Waaay less nade spam in Halo - Dual wielding solves this v.well
I still see a large reliance on grenades in halo 3...

I don't think the story is very different from any other science fiction book, movie, or game.
Just like any game out there
not really, but I will agree, a lot of games do have bland stories

I don't like how it is seen as one of the best FPS games ever, when it's not best at anything, Gameplay, Multiplayer, Graphics, Plot, anything.
sheer sales + user satisfaction prove you wrong
Graphics? well it's using xbox hardware so no, it's 720p so no. Gameplay? well there's not really much change from halo 1, but I can't really argue this because it's all personal preference. Multiplayer? well it's on a console for starters, XBL costs $50 a year more than my online does, it tends to be a lot more laggy than my pc games do, and it's got the huge balance problems I was talking about earlier. Plot? well there are definitely games with more engaging storylines, but if you want good storyline go read a book (preferably not a halo one)

I don't like when people consider themselves to be good at aiming when the computer does half the work for them.
sticks are a massive disadvantage, And Halo hardly has the most intrusive auto aim out there
I know, but it still has auto aim, and It's definitely noticable

I don't like the kids that it attracts, though it is sometimes fun to make fun of them on XBL.

this is a XBL wide problem, ever tried CoD4/PGR?
CoD4, yes, PGR, no. This is a problem with parenting though, the kids shouldn't be getting M games until after puberty.
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