Bevo
Nah
+718|6737|Austin, Texas

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

My current Myrm setup is:

High:
x2 250 mm Compressed Coil Guns
x3 Dual 150 mm Prototype Gauss Guns
Medium:
10 mn Afterburner
Medium Fr-X Prototype Cap Booster
Faint Warp Prohibitor
Medium Shield Extender
Low:
N-Type Kinetic Hardener
N-Type Explosive Hardener
Medium Armor Repair
Damage Control II
x2 800 mm Rolled Tungsten Plates

x10 Hammerheads
Okay.... try something like this

[Myrmidon, Missions]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Thermic Hardener I
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners

200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

5x Hammerhead IIs

Remember to switch hardeners and drones for each mission - this one is setup for guristas, serpentis, and EOM. It all permaruns with my skills and tanks 500 DPS  - plenty for any level 3 out there. It's tank is even enough for level 4s if you had rigs/enough DPS (you won't ). With decent cap skills you should be able to tap the AB when needed and permarun the reps/perma shoot.

Medium armor repairer IIs don't take long to train, so get on it . Neither do the cap recharger/relay II skills. T2 drones are soooo worth it, and they don't require much training either. I assume you already have drones 5, so it's only scout drone operation 5 (a little under a week) to get the tech 2 drones, plus a level or two in each racial skill.
Bernadictus
Moderator
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2 hrs untill I can fly mah Raven (to my station that is).
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
Member
+13|6945|Australia

Bernadictus wrote:

2 hrs untill I can fly mah Raven (to my station that is).
Dont get it killed

Last edited by -_{MoW}_-Assasin (2008-08-06 01:09:55)

RavyGravy
Son.
+617|6622|NSW, Australia

Bernadictus wrote:

2 hrs untill I can fly mah Raven (to my station that is).
i will not consent!
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6891|Canberra, AUS

MadKatter wrote:

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

My current Myrm setup is:

High:
x2 250 mm Compressed Coil Guns
x3 Dual 150 mm Prototype Gauss Guns
Medium:
10 mn Afterburner
Medium Fr-X Prototype Cap Booster
Faint Warp Prohibitor
Medium Shield Extender
Low:
N-Type Kinetic Hardener
N-Type Explosive Hardener
Medium Armor Repair
Damage Control II
x2 800 mm Rolled Tungsten Plates

x10 Hammerheads
Okay.... try something like this

[Myrmidon, Missions]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Thermic Hardener I
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners

200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

5x Hammerhead IIs

Remember to switch hardeners and drones for each mission - this one is setup for guristas, serpentis, and EOM. It all permaruns with my skills and tanks 500 DPS  - plenty for any level 3 out there. It's tank is even enough for level 4s if you had rigs/enough DPS (you won't ). With decent cap skills you should be able to tap the AB when needed and permarun the reps/perma shoot.

Medium armor repairer IIs don't take long to train, so get on it . Neither do the cap recharger/relay II skills. T2 drones are soooo worth it, and they don't require much training either. I assume you already have drones 5, so it's only scout drone operation 5 (a little under a week) to get the tech 2 drones, plus a level or two in each racial skill.
You can ditch the CPR if you get CCC rigs. That way you can have another harderner, further pumping up the tank. And it would be a better idea to get rid of one of the guns and fit a Drone link augmentor instead.

And no, a myrmidon even with all t2 gear and rigs is not nearly good enough for lvl4's - unless you plan to spend a looooong time on each mission, and are prepared to warp in/warp out a lot.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6953

Spark wrote:

MadKatter wrote:

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

My current Myrm setup is:

High:
x2 250 mm Compressed Coil Guns
x3 Dual 150 mm Prototype Gauss Guns
Medium:
10 mn Afterburner
Medium Fr-X Prototype Cap Booster
Faint Warp Prohibitor
Medium Shield Extender
Low:
N-Type Kinetic Hardener
N-Type Explosive Hardener
Medium Armor Repair
Damage Control II
x2 800 mm Rolled Tungsten Plates

x10 Hammerheads
Okay.... try something like this

[Myrmidon, Missions]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Kinetic Hardener I
N-Type Thermic Hardener I
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners

200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M
200mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge M

[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

5x Hammerhead IIs

Remember to switch hardeners and drones for each mission - this one is setup for guristas, serpentis, and EOM. It all permaruns with my skills and tanks 500 DPS  - plenty for any level 3 out there. It's tank is even enough for level 4s if you had rigs/enough DPS (you won't ). With decent cap skills you should be able to tap the AB when needed and permarun the reps/perma shoot.

Medium armor repairer IIs don't take long to train, so get on it . Neither do the cap recharger/relay II skills. T2 drones are soooo worth it, and they don't require much training either. I assume you already have drones 5, so it's only scout drone operation 5 (a little under a week) to get the tech 2 drones, plus a level or two in each racial skill.
You can ditch the CPR if you get CCC rigs. That way you can have another harderner, further pumping up the tank. And it would be a better idea to get rid of one of the guns and fit a Drone link augmentor instead.

And no, a myrmidon even with all t2 gear and rigs is not nearly good enough for lvl4's - unless you plan to spend a looooong time on each mission, and are prepared to warp in/warp out a lot.
\

And a fully t2 fitted Drake?
Bevo
Nah
+718|6737|Austin, Texas

Spark wrote:

You can ditch the CPR if you get CCC rigs. That way you can have another harderner, further pumping up the tank. And it would be a better idea to get rid of one of the guns and fit a Drone link augmentor instead.
Yup. All of the above.

And no, a myrmidon even with all t2 gear and rigs is not nearly good enough for lvl4's
The tank would be

- unless you plan to spend a looooong time on each mission, and are prepared to warp in/warp out a lot.
Yeah, the DPS sucks.


And bern, no it would take freakin' stupidly long in a drake too.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6953

MadKatter wrote:

Spark wrote:

You can ditch the CPR if you get CCC rigs. That way you can have another harderner, further pumping up the tank. And it would be a better idea to get rid of one of the guns and fit a Drone link augmentor instead.
Yup. All of the above.

And no, a myrmidon even with all t2 gear and rigs is not nearly good enough for lvl4's
The tank would be

- unless you plan to spend a looooong time on each mission, and are prepared to warp in/warp out a lot.
Yeah, the DPS sucks.


And bern, no it would take freakin' stupidly long in a drake too.
Haha, ok. I calculated that my new Raven will be ready for flight in about a month or 2/3 (skill wise).

Can someone advice me the skills that I will definably need to proper pwn lvl 4's.

Shield Operation/Management V, Weapon Upgrades V, Advanced Weapon Upgrade IV, Cruise Missile IV (No need for V, I'm using Arbalests), Jury Rigging IV, Shield Rigging IV, Energy Grid V.

- add please.
Thorax
Banned
+77|6020
Trying to do LvL4's in Battlecruisers is like trying to slam your head through a brick wall to see whats on the other side.  Pointless. 

In the time it would take you to do one you could have done three in a properly fitted battleship.  Under productive and maleficent.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6891|Canberra, AUS
Indeed. And, considering a domi is only 15-20 mill more than a myrm...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6953

Thorax wrote:

Trying to do LvL4's in Battlecruisers is like trying to slam your head through a brick wall to see whats on the other side.  Pointless. 

In the time it would take you to do one you could have done three in a properly fitted battleship.  Under productive and maleficent.
Yes. I was pointed out that it be useless. Thanks for pointing that out yet again. I would have loved to get some proper skills to train, but me guesses you lost focus after reading more than 2 words: "Haha, ok."

Bernadictus wrote:

Can someone advice me the skills that I will definably need to proper pwn lvl 4's.

Shield Operation/Management V, Weapon Upgrades V, Advanced Weapon Upgrade IV, Cruise Missile IV (No need for V, I'm using Arbalests), Jury Rigging IV, Shield Rigging IV, Energy Grid V.

- add please.
So instead of pointing me out to the facts that are known, name me some skills + levels I would definably need to ob/t(r)ain.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6891|Canberra, AUS

MadKatter wrote:

Spark wrote:

You can ditch the CPR if you get CCC rigs. That way you can have another harderner, further pumping up the tank. And it would be a better idea to get rid of one of the guns and fit a Drone link augmentor instead.
Yup. All of the above.

And no, a myrmidon even with all t2 gear and rigs is not nearly good enough for lvl4's
The tank would be

- unless you plan to spend a looooong time on each mission, and are prepared to warp in/warp out a lot.
Yeah, the DPS sucks.


And bern, no it would take freakin' stupidly long in a drake too.
I've done missions where they are doing upwards of 800dps. Fine on a domi, not so fine on a myrm.

It's not so much that you can't tank. It's that you have trouble outrepping the occasional 3rd damage type.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6716|so randum
just bumping so we're higher than bfbc
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6891|Canberra, AUS
Lawl.

@Bern: Get cap skills up. Raven uses active tank, so you want to maximize your cap.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6953

Spark wrote:

Lawl.

@Bern: Get cap skills up. Raven uses active tank, so you want to maximize your cap.
Names plox
Bevo
Nah
+718|6737|Austin, Texas

Spark wrote:

I've done missions where they are doing upwards of 800dps. Fine on a domi, not so fine on a myrm.
You underestimate my EFT skills. Im telling you the tank is NP, it's just the DPS.



It's not so much that you can't tank. It's that you have trouble outrepping the occasional 3rd damage type.
Repping? Who said anything about repping?

969 tank (I can make it about 1150 if you can feed a nos every once and a while) against angels, 410 DPS.

[Myrmidon, Regenmissions]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Power Diagnostic System II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Fusion M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Fusion M

Core Defence Field Purger I
Core Defence Field Purger I
Core Defence Field Purger I

Berserker II x2
Valkyrie II x2
Warrior II x1

Cap lasts for about an hour.

@bern

Energy Systems Operation
Energy Management
Thorax
Banned
+77|6020

Bernadictus wrote:

Thorax wrote:

Trying to do LvL4's in Battlecruisers is like trying to slam your head through a brick wall to see whats on the other side.  Pointless. 

In the time it would take you to do one you could have done three in a properly fitted battleship.  Under productive and maleficent.
Yes. I was pointed out that it be useless. Thanks for pointing that out yet again. I would have loved to get some proper skills to train, but me guesses you lost focus after reading more than 2 words: "Haha, ok."
Wow.

Go fuck yourself.  For real.
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6953

Thorax wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

Thorax wrote:

Trying to do LvL4's in Battlecruisers is like trying to slam your head through a brick wall to see whats on the other side.  Pointless. 

In the time it would take you to do one you could have done three in a properly fitted battleship.  Under productive and maleficent.
Yes. I was pointed out that it be useless. Thanks for pointing that out yet again. I would have loved to get some proper skills to train, but me guesses you lost focus after reading more than 2 words: "Haha, ok."
Wow.

Go fuck yourself.  For real.
No. Instead of pointing out the proper skills such as I asked for you choose to go down fucktard road again.

Thankfully many people CAN read.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6716|so randum
i leave you kids alone for one minute....

in other news

PC works!
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Use an umbrella
Bernadictus
Moderator
+1,055|6953

FatherTed wrote:

i leave you kids alone for one minute....

in other news

PC works!
yay for you! get online!
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6716|so randum

Bernadictus wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

i leave you kids alone for one minute....

in other news

PC works!
yay for you! get online!
yay for me!i'm d/lin the essentials!then i'm going to get blocked!then i'll come on eve!yay!
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Thorax
Banned
+77|6020

Bernadictus wrote:

Thorax wrote:

Bernadictus wrote:

Yes. I was pointed out that it be useless. Thanks for pointing that out yet again. I would have loved to get some proper skills to train, but me guesses you lost focus after reading more than 2 words: "Haha, ok."
Wow.

Go fuck yourself.  For real.
No. Instead of pointing out the proper skills such as I asked for you choose to go down fucktard road again.

Thankfully many people CAN read.
If you're such a proponent to reading maybe you, SHOULD READ THE DAMN SKILL DESCRIPTIONS LIKE THE REST OF US AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND INSTEAD OF RELYING ON OTHER PEOPLE TO BUILD YOUR CHARACTER FOR YOU.
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6672|The edge of sanity
Instead of you two dickheads fighting why not keep the thread to eve discussion. Bernie you need to quit starting shit (I dont want to fucking hear it you are starting shit and it needs to fucking stop). Thorax calm down and quit making it fucking worse. God damn its like watching two year olds fucking fight.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6932

Liberal-Sl@yer wrote:

Instead of you two dickheads fighting why not keep the thread to eve discussion. Bernie you need to quit starting shit (I dont want to fucking hear it you are starting shit and it needs to fucking stop). Thorax calm down and quit making it fucking worse. God damn its like watching two year olds fucking fight.
Agreed. Bernie quit starting shit. Cougar was only trying to help, why add gasoline to fire.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6923|67.222.138.85
Okay kids, play nice now. Liberal-Sl@yer is right on the money.

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