BF2S Forums The root of all Evil....

pokerplaya wrote:

isnt money the root of all evil so they say

no, the *love* of money is the root of all kinds of evil

XanKrieger wrote:

Well if ya think about it religion dictates what is good and what is evil so it in itself creates evil and beliefs that lead to extremists

This is coming from someone who thinks of himself as a 'good' person.  Name some of the 'good' you have done.

Marconius wrote:

Organized religion is terrible and should be done away with.  It's way too easy for corruption and exploitation to spread within them, and they get extremely dangerous when politics mix with them.  I.e., the Islamic rage at the moment, Priests and reverends telling their "flock" how to vote and showing political swing videos, using peoples' faith as a control instrument.

Forcing morality, guilt, and shame on their followers all the while taking money from their pockets.  More harm than good has been created or urged on by organized religion, and more and more people are being told what to believe in and what to think, causing them to not be able to (critically nor practically) think for themselves.

People should be allowed to believe in anything they want to believe as in a Freethought society, as long as they do not force it upon others.  RAmen.

Corruption was there first.  Man just brought it to religion.

Schools are doing a good job on telling people what to think.  For example, college vs. high school.  My eyes were opened when i got to college vs. the force fed $hit at high school.  And dont forget about 1972 text books in 1995 classrooms.

Last edited by wannabe_tank_whore (2006-02-09 13:25:40)

MephistoJade wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Yeah If You Wanna Go To Hell And Burn For All Eternity You Sinner!!

Wow....been protesting outside any military funerals lately? 

Seriously, that is the best example of this thread...EVER.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article … 0000000001

Bastards, all of them. 

I'd repeat: Extremism should be eradicated.  if it takes shutting down the major religions to do it? let me fire the first shots.  I'd consider it an honor.

Wow.  You just pissed all over the Constitution.  Our founding fathers would be ashamed.

evil people do evil things and good people do good things, but it takes religion to make a good person do evil things

wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

"were civilian deaths and alot of them were due to religion"

Source that says civilian deaths were mostly due to religion.

k cant give source, for that coz i dont have a specific book name here, but i have read alot on WW2 and most historians agree that the majority of civilian deaths were due to the religion of the person.

just got a quote.

'The Jews of Europe were the main victims of the Holocaust in what the Nazis called the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question". The commonly used figure for the number of Jewish victims is six million, so much so that the phrase "six million" is now almost universally interpreted as referring to the Jewish victims of the Holocaust, though mainstream estimates by historians of the exact number range from five million to seven million.'

just like to point out that if they hadnt been 'Jews' they wouldnt have nessaceraly died.

'About 220,000 Sinti and Roma were killed in the Holocaust (some estimates are as high as 800,000), between a quarter to a half of the European population. Other groups deemed "racially inferior" or "undesirable", Soviet military prisoners of war including Russians and other Slavs, Poles, the mentally or physically disabled, homosexuals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Communists and political dissidents and criminals, were also persecuted and killed. Many scholars do not include the Nazi persecution of all of these groups in the definition of the Holocaust, with some scholars limiting the Holocaust to the genocide of the Jews; some to genocide of the Jews, Roma, and disabled; and some to all groups targeted by Nazi racism.[2] Taking all these other groups into account, however, the total death toll rises considerably, estimates generally place the total number of Holocaust victims at 9 to 11 million, though some estimates have been as high as 26 million.[3]'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

just some opinions on religion here...

'This group of models holds that religion is a social construction, rather than referring to actual supernatural phenomena, that is, phenomena beyond the natural world that we measure using the scientific method. Some of these models view religion as nonetheless having or having had a mostly positive effect on society, the individual, and civilization itself, and others view it as having or having had a mostly injurious or destructive effect. Many of these views have their origins in the field of the sociology of religion.'

ill get more.

Last edited by Vilham (2006-02-09 13:49:36)

wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

Vilham, I deleted my posts.  I misinterpreted your post.

np

wannabe_tank_whore wrote:

XanKrieger wrote:

Well if ya think about it religion dictates what is good and what is evil so it in itself creates evil and beliefs that lead to extremists

This is coming from someone who thinks of himself as a 'good' person.  Name some of the 'good' you have done.

I never said i was a good person but that doesnt make me evil

religion isnt bad
but when religion and politics goes together then its bad

El pistolero7 wrote:

Beefy wrote:

religion isnt bad
but when religion and politics goes together then its bad

Of course ,we got good examples of that combination. But its the individuals getting it wrong,the ppl with power,
and then the stupid Masses follow them, PPl just dont get it, The greatest message of the bible , koran,
Hindu, konfuism, buddism,  Indian believes is LOVE..
This sounds very hippiesh, potheaded,  but its the truth...
When, Us was attacked at 9/11,  the only thing in mind for us military was revenge,, for the love of their country.....
And revenge is a sin,,sadly... u lower urself to the other guys level ...
If a human being cant control those feelings, all hell break loose.....
thats why religion is a way of living,, Some will understand some won´t
Now u might argue what religion is the best.. and sadly some religions have some faults,
U can get to know God without have been in any religion,, But  remember  ,believes been here since the beginning of time, and it knows a lots of thruh,
U all in this forum, how many years have u been living in this earth, 10 ,20 ,30,
And u allready know about Life.........

Love huh?  I think you better go back and read the Old Testament.  God was one mean SOB in that section.  It's kind of funny how religious people pick and choose the sections of the Bible, or whatever text they read, to support their point of view, and totally ignore the rest.

The fact is that God does not exist.  Do I believe that when you die you just snuff out and that's it? No.  While our bodies are organic, the rest of what makes us human is energy, and energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed into another form.  I believe we are part of something bigger, but something we just don't yet understand, but God as some all powerful parent figure is just the imagination of the primitive human mind trying to assign a value to something it can't yet understand, and to deal with the fact that mortality is something none of us can escape.

Religion's time is done and should be done away with.  When people start treating each other with dignity, compassion, and respect simply because they are a human being, then and only then will the human race have a chance to survive.  As long as religion exists our future is murky at best.

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I respect ur opinion,,,
And u said it, dignity compassion, respect..  = LOVE
Ant the old testament , If god was that bad:  why do u think he was bad?
The humans in that era, according to bible were Very very BAD....
And u all know, that there are unwritten laws in this planet, if U do something wrong,
U get Twice or more back, And Sure i think God can Punish U..if u break these rules,
But u never know  the Lords ways,,,,
these rules i believe, are here to learn u something and keep u outta trouble
But ur free to do whatever u like,
Some learn the HARD way and some go trough life without Tragedies
If u believe in the energy stuff: and also wiping out religion:
What does that tell u about being bad in this planet, U may do whatever like, and dont give a damn
about what happens after death..
So all the rightious ppl alive today why should they keep living rightious?, whats the point?
If a guy steal my bycicle, i dont call the police, i hunt the guy down ,and Thaibox his ass
but with these " rules", I try to understand and look at the hole perspective, then i let GOD or the divine rules
to take care of it ,
Thing happens without no reason...

Hjultomten

u should seek to the advanced matemathics courses, or NASA, very interesting, lol
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