Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6866|Greenwood, IN

gamersradar.com wrote:

When the multiplayer beta for Electronic Arts' Battlefield: Bad Company went live, gamers raised an awful stink when they found out the best weapons went to those willing to cough up the cash.

One of the powers behind that stink was the website Sarcastic Gamer, which created a widely-circulated video that mocked the "pay to win" downloadable content business strategy. The video also encouraged Battlefield fans to boycott the upcoming game developed by DICE.

But EA and DICE have listened to the furore surrounding the DLC, and promptly confirmed to GameSpot that they will be making all weapons, even the best ones, available free to all gamers willing to put the time in to play the game.

In the beta, gamers had access to an array of weapons, but there were 10 that appeared only to be available as downloadable content or included in the pricier collector's edition.

EA tried to address initial outrage, saying that five of the 10 weapons appearing as downloadable content in the beta were intended to be part of a promotional campaign, and incorrectly flagged, but the other five would only be available as paid DLC or through the collector's edition.

Battlefield: Bad Company senior producer Karl-Magnus Troedsson explained, "We had some weapons that we were planning to release through various marketing programs, but they were actually flagged there like you were supposed to buy these weapons through Xbox Live Marketplace, and that was a misunderstanding between marketing and us the developers."

He said that now, all weapons will be available immediately for collector's edition buyers, and gamers who purchase the standard edition will have to put in the time to reach top level to unlock all weapons.

Bottom line, everyone who buys the game will have access to all the weapons without the requirement of paying more for them.

Troedsson said, "DICE is built upon the multiplayer community, and we do listen to what people say out there. When we saw this big uprise ... we just decided that all weapons will be free in the game, and that's how it is now."
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1up.com wrote:

Let it never be said that gamers cannot, given sufficient outcry, right an injustice. In an interview with IGN, DICE's Karl-Magnus Troedsson, senior producer for Battlefield: Bad Company, announced that Electronic Arts will not charge to unlock any weapons in the game. It's an abrupt about-face from their original plan to charge gamers to open five extra weapons. Troedsson attributes the new decision to the backlash they received from gamers angered over the plan.

"We are not charging for any guns that are out there," said Troedsson. "We read the forums, we read all of the articles and listening to the storm that is out there, we're not going to charge for any of those guns." According to Troedsson, the five weapons that were originally going to be charged for in the regular edition of the game will instead be unlocked once players reach level 25 (the cap) in the game. Those who purchase the Gold Edition (which as usual will cost an extra $10) will as a bonus have those five weapons unlocked from the start.

While the news is very well received, part of Troedsson's account of the incident doesn't entirely hold water. When asked whether EA expected the backlash or if it took them by surprise, Troedsson responded:

    "It was actually a more complex internal problem then that. In the Beta, when you go into the unlock page, you can see there are five weapons that say 'will be purchasable through Xbox Live,' but those are actually the five weapons that will be released as marketing programs. That was actually a big bug in the Beta, an internal miscommunication that we had. The Gold Edition weapons, that's where we had a lot of discussion and that's why we listened and made the decision to not charge."

Whether or not the message to purchase weapons in the Beta was a bug seems to be irrelevant, as EA's own clarification at the time confirmed there were going to be five purchasable weapons. But if it was a bug, why didn't the clarification state that? Furthermore, let's assume it was a bug -- does that mean EA's original intent was to not reveal the purchasable weapons when the Beta launched? And doesn't that then mean there would never have been an outcry to listen to, and EA wouldn't have changed their minds about the weapons they were planning to charge us for?

Okay, we're getting too metaphorical now -- the fact is that now all these weapons can be unlocked without extra charges, the way it should have always been from the start. For appealing to the better angels of rationality, EA, we congratulate you.
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2 different sources.  If this has been posted already so sue me I will remove it once pointed out.  Someone on IRC pointed this out to me but refused to post it.(Pussy! <3) *cough* belZe *cough*

Last edited by Naturn (2008-04-11 12:43:01)

kptk92
u
+972|6669|tc_london
Its a bloody disgrace that they're trying to flog off virtual weapons for real life money in the first place, reminds me a bit like the payment for items on Battlefield Heroes.

EA/DICE get enough money with the Battlefield Franchise and it's Expansions anyway tbfh

Last edited by kptk92 (2008-04-11 12:47:22)

heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6649|New York
Good that they did this, but EA was being a dick for thinking this in the first place. EA has not gotten off my shitlist.
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Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6866|Greenwood, IN
You know it was no "miss flagged" shit.  They every intention of charging use for all 10 of those weapons.
kptk92
u
+972|6669|tc_london
Well the only money they're getting off of me is for the game itself
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6826|England

Im actually more surprised that they listened to the fanbase. That has to be a first (and last)
jord
Member
+2,382|6938|The North, beyond the wall.

Snake wrote:

Im actually more surprised that they listened to the fanbase. That has to be a first (and last)
They seemed to little listen to the fanbase with the last battlefield...

Only just the whiny portion of it.
Naturn
Deeds, not words.
+311|6866|Greenwood, IN

jord wrote:

Snake wrote:

Im actually more surprised that they listened to the fanbase. That has to be a first (and last)
They seemed to little listen to the fanbase with the last battlefield...

Only just the whiny portion of it.
Well generally there is SOME truth behind the whining.  They probably look at it like if enough people complain about one particular thing it might be a problem and they should check it out.  But, all in all EA is stepping in the right direction with listening at all to the fans.
killaer
Member
+41|6978
EA has listened to its' fans plenty of times, the thing is that most of the fans are idiots who have jumped onto the "EA IS EVIL GRRRR" bandwagon and will scream and whine and kick at just about any decision that EA makes. I don't want to seem like I'm overly defending EA, but this really isn't the first time we've paid for new weapons to be put into the game. I paid for SF, AF, and EF, and while those DID have new maps, they also had new guns and vehicles and stuff to kill people with, which is essentially the big motivator. Would I really mind paying 5$ for a couple of weapons? Not really. It is sort of a lousy tactic to pull though, there's really no effort to add in new content with the money that you pay, not to mention that these weapons are essentially supposed to be in the game from the start.

I'll say it again, EA has listened to its fans plenty of times. Yeah, they've screwed up occasionally, but no matter what they do idiots seem to pop up and scream "Screw EA, they killed BF2 with their evil patches!" in just about every single thread that pops up. Rabble rabble rabble DICE is an evil megacorporation rabble rabble rabble.

I personally think that EA is doing the right thing. They realized that it's a little low to be charging customers extra for what should already be in a full priced game, and they have taken off the charge of the guns. And that's good.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7032|PNW

Bad Company is console fail. Dumb move for a series that has traditionally been PC, but at least they're chucking a free one our way.
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6649|New York
They realized it, yes, and took their decision back rightfully, but my problem with EA is that they were trying to pull this shit in the first place. This is not an issue of content added later on, this is an issue of having the content already generated, but making people pay to get the full experience. They make enough money, why couldn't they just throw us a bone and show that they appreciate their customers?

I don't care who you are, 1.3 was inexcusable.

Their attempted T2 acquisition pissed me off royally, ESPECIALLY with their timing. I absolutely do not want to see EA get T2 so they can fuck that group up as well. Historically, whatever EA has acquired has turned into a mediocre franchise.

They have only proven to me what is most important, and that's money. Don't even try to give me that bullshit that all companies need to make money, because that's obvious, but EA can't hold a candle to the support Valve has given TF2 in offering FREE content and timely updates and fixes. After seeing what I can get, support wise, versus what EA offers, I think it's a no brainer.
I'm getting tired of their slew of annual, mediocre games. I got suckered into the garbage that was NFS:C, but I won't fall for it again. I will do my best to no longer support EA, even if that means not purchasing Spore.

They will be on my shitlist for awhile.
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
RoosterCantrell
Goodbye :)
+399|6740|Somewhere else

Look on the bright side, they actually catered to the fans.  Plus, NO company ever wants to openly say that the gamers could influence thier corperate decisions.  They would NEVER want to give the impression that the gamers have enough power to push big ole EA around, even though it's pretty obvious they did.

Things like this give me a littly more worry for BF3.  I bet it will be a great game...but it could be great...or legendary, all on EA's actions.

Plus, like Heggs said, EA's hostile takeover attempt on T2 is fucking bullshit.  They are the Wal-mart or microsoft  of the gaming industry.  Bullying the smaller guys, and taking as much as they can, any way they can.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6881|London, England

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Bad Company is console fail. Dumb move for a series that has traditionally been PC, but at least they're chucking a free one our way.
They're making BF3 too. It's based on the Frostbite engine, so expect it to be BF:BC, but better. Apparently it's back to the Modern era too, a true sequel to BF2.
M.O.A.B
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