[MGS4] so whats the deal here

2008-03-31 08:48:49

#1

henno13: A generally unremarkable member; +230|6609|Belfast

is MGS4 a PS3 exculsive?
ive been hearing that its comming out on 3 DVDs on the 360
but ive been also been hearing PS3 exclusives

GTA did it
why cant metal gear move?

i (maybe) getting a 360 for my birthday in a months time

i have been a metal gear fan for a good long while
hell it has one of the best stories ever
i was looking foward to MGS4 and i am buying MGS3:S soon

help

henno

Last edited by henno13 (2008-03-31 08:53:35)

2008-03-31 09:03:25

#2

heggs: Spamalamadingdong; +581|6649|New York

I read a short article a little while back and this is the gist of it:
In a nutshell, Kojima doesn't like the 360. Doesn't care for the way the online is structured (the article didn't elaborate, so I'm not sure exactly what he meant). Also, I've read that he used up all of the 50 gigs the dual layer Blu Ray can store. A triple layered HD DVD could only come up with 45 gigs max. And if I'm not mistaken, doesn't Microsoft not want to have any game with multiple disks?

I'm not sure if there are scrapping it for the 360 yet, but it seems like that might be the case. Seems to be all speculation at this point, as I haven't read anything definitive yet.

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2008-03-31 09:14:28

#3

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6881|London, England

^xbox360 doesn't even use HD-DVD, it uses a DVD

I think it's just the same reason you don't get Halo on the PS3. They're just known exclusives.

Also, I like MGS, but I just know that about 47GB of the game will be HD 1080p Pre-Rendered Cut Scenes (they take up huge space), so don't get hyped up because you'll probably spend more time watching then playing

2008-03-31 09:19:23

#4

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6235|England

ps3 exclusive afaik

2008-03-31 09:23:19

#5

r'Eeee: That's how I roll, BITCH!; +311|6709

https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8476/mgs4st9.png

2008-03-31 09:32:45

#6

henno13: A generally unremarkable member; +230|6609|Belfast

r'Eeee wrote:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8476/mgs4st9.png

wat is that
lol

looks big

SamTheMan:D wrote:
ps3 exclusive afaik

they said that for GTA

Mek-Izzle wrote:
hyped up because you'll probably spend more time watching then playing

the MGS story is the best bit of the game
id watch all of them if i could

Last edited by henno13 (2008-03-31 09:37:37)

2008-03-31 09:49:03

#7

Spidery_Yoda: Member; +399|6530

It's possible. If they just compressed some of that audio then it would take up a fraction of the space it takes up now.

2008-03-31 10:26:24

#8

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6881|London, England

henno wrote:
the MGS story is the best bit of the game
id watch all of them if i could

I know (although I reckon the gameplay is pretty sound too, and that they should do with more of it), I'm just saying that before people get hyped about 50GB, they should think logically first

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2008-03-31 10:51:44

#9

specialistx2324: hahahahahhaa; +244|6949|arica harbour

Ryu Hayabusa > Snake

2008-03-31 12:56:38

#10

icecold2510: Member; +31|6554

MGS is defiantly not going multiplatform. Ryan Payton even said it himself on the Koji Pro Podcast.

I think they don't want another mishap with MGS on a Microsuck console.

MGS2:S was bad with fps issues on the Xbox...

And as you can find in articles somewhere, it is taking up a lot of money to just build it for one console.

Yes, they can make it for two consoles and get money out of both, but is the Xbox fanbase (for MGS) as big as the PS3 fanbase? IMO, the fanbase would not be that large to get profit to supplement the costs of production...

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2008-03-31 12:59:36

#11

henno13: A generally unremarkable member; +230|6609|Belfast

icecold2510 wrote:
Microsuck console.

i stop reading from there

here we go
blah blah blah

PS3 is better
no the 360 is
fuck you
gfto
no u....

PS3 has better capabilities that the 360 but it is too horribly over priced
i didnt make this thread to argue over whats better

Last edited by henno13 (2008-03-31 13:01:52)

2008-03-31 13:02:39

#12

icecold2510: Member; +31|6554

henno13 wrote:
icecold2510 wrote:
Microsuck console.
i stop reading from there

Ok, but it was the only thing bad about the Xbox

It's just that do you want a lousy port on the 360?

No.

There's no SIXAXIS function so you wouldn't get the most out of it either.

2008-03-31 13:06:40

#13

henno13: A generally unremarkable member; +230|6609|Belfast

icecold2510 wrote:
henno13 wrote:
icecold2510 wrote:
Microsuck console.
i stop reading from there
There's no SIXAXIS function so you wouldn't get the most out of it either.

yeah but....
as i said

henno13 wrote:
horribly over priced

/end arguement

2008-03-31 13:13:49

#14

SamTheMan:D: Banned; +856|6235|England

henno13 wrote:
icecold2510 wrote:
henno13 wrote:

i stop reading from there
There's no SIXAXIS function so you wouldn't get the most out of it either.
yeah but....
as i said
henno13 wrote:
horribly over priced
/end arguement

next gen console with blu ray player for <£300?
not overpriced at all

2008-03-31 13:15:20

#15

icecold2510: Member; +31|6554

There is no argument?

IMO, it is a good price because it has a lot of features...
Blu-Ray, game console, plays movies, can store music, free internet, Bluetooth, SIXAXIS and some more...

Ok, enough derailing.

Theres though few good reasons why it will not come to X360.

_{BTW, whose preordered it to get into the MGO beta and the Saga 2.0 DVD?}

2008-03-31 13:37:54

#16

OmniDeath: ~; +726|6904

The Metal Gear series has never been exclusive to any console, so the fanboy's can get off that trip now. The original 2 games were on Nintendo consoles, the third (which most people consider the first) came out on both Playstation and Gamecube, and the last two were released on both Xbox and PS2. I see no reason why MGS4 wouldn't come to Xbox360, even if not right at release.

2008-03-31 15:00:54

#17

icecold2510: Member; +31|6554

OmniDeath wrote:
The Metal Gear series has never been exclusive to any console, so the fanboy's can get off that trip now. The original 2 games were on Nintendo consoles, the third (which most people consider the first) came out on both Playstation and Gamecube, and the last two were released on both Xbox and PS2. I see no reason why MGS4 wouldn't come to Xbox360, even if not right at release.

Metal Gear Solid was a timed exclusive on the PS1. It was a great game. The PC version sucked, not many people liked it.

MGS: The Twin Snakes is a remake by a different company (Silicon Knights not Kojima Productions) but released by Konami.
It is an exclusive to the Gamecube. It is defiantly not the same game as MGS on the PS1. Plenty of different stuff compared to the original game. Not many people liked it because the the added 'extras'.

MGS2 was the only game released on two different consoles of the same generation. The Xbox version wasn't as good as the PS2 versions because it was ported over (frame rate issues etc.)

MGS3 was exclusive to the PS2. Never released on the Xbox or any other console. Came with the first two MG games, exclusive?

MGS4 will be a PS3 exclusive because Konami or KojiPro will not want to spend the extra money building on another console and trying to somewhat win over another fanbase.

MGS was always made on the PS first. They have had success with MGS on the PS unlike the other consoles/PC. For right now, MGS4 will be a PS3 exclusive, it may be ported over a year or two later to the X360 which would make it a timed exclusive. But as I said already, Ryan Payton confirmed on the podcast that MGS4 will be an exclusive.

2008-03-31 15:09:57

#18

Mutantbear: Semi Constructive Criticism; +1,431|6225|London, England

i want MGS4 for the pc

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2008-03-31 15:47:35

#19

FFLink: There is.; +1,380|6951|Devon, England

Mutantsteak wrote:
i want MGS4 for the pc

Need a whole hard drive for it.

2008-03-31 17:05:34

#20

OmniDeath: ~; +726|6904

icecold2510 wrote:
OmniDeath wrote:
The Metal Gear series has never been exclusive to any console, so the fanboy's can get off that trip now. The original 2 games were on Nintendo consoles, the third (which most people consider the first) came out on both Playstation and Gamecube, and the last two were released on both Xbox and PS2. I see no reason why MGS4 wouldn't come to Xbox360, even if not right at release.
MGS: The Twin Snakes is a remake by a different company (Silicon Knights not Kojima Productions) but released by Konami.
It is an exclusive to the Gamecube. It is defiantly not the same game as MGS on the PS1. Plenty of different stuff compared to the original game. Not many people liked it because the the added 'extras'.

Not many people liked it? I don't know who you were talking to...

MGS2 was the only game released on two different consoles of the same generation. The Xbox version wasn't as good as the PS2 versions because it was ported over (frame rate issues etc.)

People sure seemed to like it anyway...

MGS3 was exclusive to the PS2. Never released on the Xbox or any other console.

My mistake, I thought Subsistence was released on the Xbox as well.

Came with the first two MG games, exclusive?

How's that exclusive when they've been previously released for other systems?

MGS4 will be a PS3 exclusive because Konami or KojiPro will not want to spend the extra money building on another console and trying to somewhat win over another fanbase.

How would that involve "winning over another fanbase"? I don't own an Xbox or a Playstation and I love the Metal Gear series.

MGS was always made on the PS first.

Metal Gear Solid was on the Playstation first, but the Metal Gear series started long before that

The original Metal Gear debuted on the MSX2 computer in 1987 in Japan and Europe. This was one of the first games in which using stealth was emphasized over direct confrontation with the enemy, a young Hideo Kojima's response to the shooting-based game designs which prevailed at the time. Many of the series' trademark aspects were already present, including the wireless communicator used by the player's character. The game was later released in North America, Europe and Japan on the NES/Famicom, selling over a million units.

2008-03-31 17:48:48

#21

icecold2510: Member; +31|6554

The Metal Gear Solid series have been most successful on the Playstation.

Try Reading these forums when they come back online, many Metal Gear fans have turned TTS down.
Many other places than Gamespot reveal that people do not like TTS. Even search the MGS4 forums on Gamespot. Majority of the people that have played MGS and MGS:TTS do not like TTS.

MGS2: Showing People's Gamespot scores does not do it justice. Of course they liked it, it's because of the story. Search for problems with MGS2 on the Xbox and PC and it will come up with quite a few problems, terrible port.

Not many people own NES or SNESs anymore including me. Having that on Subsistence was amazing. Sucked for the other people who didn't have PS2s. I consider that an exclusive for the PS2.
Your talking two-three generations of gaming consoles. Thats like saying MGS4 will not be an exclusive because it is possible it could be re released on the PS10 or something else.

MGS was made on the PS first. MG was made on the Nintendo first. Two different series with intertwining story lines.

Japan is the greatest fan base of MGS. Playstation is reigning supreme in Japan IIRC. So, why not just release it on the PS3?
I did though say somewhat of winning over another fan base as most of them are into Halo, Splinter Cell, and whatnot.

And the reasons why it will not be released on the X360 has already been explained in the beginning posts of the thread.

2008-03-31 21:06:57

#22

OmniDeath: ~; +726|6904

icecold2510 wrote:
The Metal Gear Solid series have been most successful on the Playstation.

Try Reading these forums when they come back online, many Metal Gear fans have turned TTS down.
Many other places than Gamespot reveal that people do not like TTS. Even search the MGS4 forums on Gamespot. Majority of the people that have played MGS and MGS:TTS do not like TTS.

MGS2: Showing People's Gamespot scores does not do it justice. Of course they liked it, it's because of the story. Search for problems with MGS2 on the Xbox and PC and it will come up with quite a few problems, terrible port.

Not many people own NES or SNESs anymore including me. Having that on Subsistence was amazing. Sucked for the other people who didn't have PS2s. I consider that an exclusive for the PS2.
Your talking two-three generations of gaming consoles. Thats like saying MGS4 will not be an exclusive because it is possible it could be re released on the PS10 or something else.

MGS was made on the PS first. MG was made on the Nintendo first. Two different series with intertwining story lines.

Japan is the greatest fan base of MGS. Playstation is reigning supreme in Japan IIRC. So, why not just release it on the PS3?
I did though say somewhat of winning over another fan base as most of them are into Halo, Splinter Cell, and whatnot.

And the reasons why it will not be released on the X360 has already been explained in the beginning posts of the thread.

Reread that, those links to Gamespot I posted were not simply for their own score, but include an extensive list of what other gaming sites, magazines, and users gave as a review for those games. My point being, a lot of people gave those games good reviews, not just one site.

Everything posted about why MGS4 won't be made for Xbox360 is merely conjecture, there are plenty of reasons why they may or may not make a 360 version... that's all I'm saying.

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