HurricaИe
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+877|6222|Washington DC
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/859/859793p1.html

Sounds like they're trying to make the game more accessible to CnC nubs (like me) but at the same time keeping that appeal for hardcore RTS players. They also want to center the single player campaign around co-op, letting you play with another person online to complete missions. If nobody's online, you can pick from different commanders (who have different play styles, personalities etc), some of which you unlock as you progress.

Naval warfare is supposed to be stronger than how must games make them, which sounds cool. And of course, full-motion video cutscenes and pop-ins will be there as well (they say they're looking at possibly 1 hour's worth of video... they really want to develop it).

There's also a new faction. The Empire of the Rising Sun. AKA, Japan. They're supposed to be particularly good at naval warfare.
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6946|Espoo, Finland
Graphics look amazing, hopefully the sounds will be as good as the RA2 sounds as well
Bit worried about gameplay as it's been going down hill from RA2...

They better not screw this up!

Edit: WAIT! Do I see a grid in that building placing screenshot?! SWEET!

Last edited by Gawwad (2008-03-14 16:54:17)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Campaign coop is an excellent move.
max
Vela Incident
+1,652|6828|NYC / Hamburg

hell march better make a return
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Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6946|Espoo, Finland

max wrote:

hell march better make a return
Hell yeah!
DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6417|Vancouver | Canada
Fucking sexy.
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7021|San Antonio, Texas

Gawwad wrote:

max wrote:

hell march better make a return
Hell yeah!
Summary of what we know so far:

General
* Engine optimized for multi-core processors.
* Makes use of physics engine for building destruction. Also, explosions will create massive craters in the ground.
* Grid based building placement system.
* There will be few units with that are effective against all unit types.
* Most units have primary and secondary abilities.
* About 60 minutes of FMVs.
* No Yuri.
* Tiberium Universe and RA universe officially separate.
* ETA Winter 2008
* Sea battles will be crucial in this game.
* Most structures are placeable on water for extra cost.
* Air power will be also be important to be able to strike both land and sea based targets.
* Significant resources out at sea so naval presence can't be ignored.
* Amphibious units will be slightly weaker than dedicated air or sea units and can only leave shore on sand.
* Will have new version of the Hell March, but it will not be done by Frank Klepacki

Beta
* Beta Keys included with many or most copies of C&C3: Kane’s Wrath; will be marked on cover of box.
* Sign-ups last from March 26-September 15.
* Dates will be posted over the summer.
* Access to Beta will be first come, first serve, but everyone who registers their key before Sept. 15 will get in.

Single-Player
* Single player campaign is designed for co-op play, either with someone else or AI.
* In SP every faction has three commanders who favor a certain style
* A monitor in the corner of the screen shows you the state of the AI and allows you to give four orders: attack or defend a unit or location, stop or help me. Without orders the AI will do its own thing.
* Mission locations include San Diego, Cape Cod, Amsterdam, Heidelberg, Easter Island, Mount Fuji and Santa Monica.
* Campaigns will be about 8-10 missions long.
* Japanese campaign to be unlocked after completing Allied and Soviet campaigns.

Storyline
Spoiler (highlight to read):
- Soviets activate Chronosphere and assassinate Einstien. Return to find USSR intact, but under siege from Japan.
- The Soviet campaign will revolves around them trying to destroy both the Allies and the Empire of the Rising Sun.
- The Allied campaign will revolve around the maniacal US president who desperately wants the Soviets dead.
- The Empire of the Rising Sun campaign will revolve around the strained relationship between the Emperor of Japan and his son.


Multi-Player
* Online matches will average at 20-30 minutes.
* In MP you can put units in friendly transports, use allied airfields and repair bays and you can give units to another player. You cannot, however, simply give your ally cash, which is designed to make giving units to another player a risk since the units might be ambushed en route to your ally.
* Time Bomb weapon can be chroned into the enemies base, but your enemy can chrono the bomb back, resulting in a hot potato until the bomb explodes. Also, displays a smiley face and says ‘Have a nice day’ before erasing you from existence.

Allies
* One of the allied AI commanders is Major Giles, a stiff upper lip British commander specialising in special weapons and aircraft, played by Beowulf actor Greg Ellis.
* Peacekeeper: Basic infantry comes with shotguns and riot shields.
* Guard Dogs: Can freeze enemy infantry in place with bark.
* Tanya will return.
* Guardian Tank: Has a rangefinder and can paint targets to boost damage to nearby units.
* IFV: Back from RA2
* Mirage tanks: Disguise itself as an enemy unit and also stealth allied forces
* Drone Aircraft: Scout unit.
* Cryo-Copter: Uses freeze ray and can also shrink units.
* Fighter and Bomber units have been confirmed.
* Assault Destroyer: Amphibious tank seen in screenshots.
* Hydrofoil Boat: Anti-Air Naval unit.
* Dolphins will return.
* Chrono-Sphere Back; Weather Control Machine replaced by Particle Cannon
* No Prism Tech

Soviets
* Conscripts: Come equipped with Ak-47s and Molotov cocktails.
* Mobile V4: Has an area of effect attack, and is amphibious.
* Apocalypse Tank: Can Harpoon and reel in units to make crushing easier.
* Kirovs: Will be reporting.
* Akula submarine: Can attack ships and train divers.
* Bullfrog Transport: Utilizes man-cannon to shoot infantry (including armored bears!!) onto land, and the units will parachute to the ground.
* Stingray Nasad: Tesla ship seen in screenshots.
* Iron Curtain Back; Rumors that they will not have nukes.
* Armored Bears: Replace dogs for Soviets. Made of pure awesome.

Empire of Japan
* Currently have the strongest navy.
* Many units can transform.
* Tsunami Tank: Amphibious tank.
* Seawing bomber: Aircraft that can transform into a submarine by falling into water.

Last edited by {M5}Sniper3 (2008-03-14 17:07:05)

DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6417|Vancouver | Canada

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

Gawwad wrote:

max wrote:

hell march better make a return
Hell yeah!
* Will have new version of the Hell March, but
it will not be done by Frank Klepacki
Lame.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7032|PNW

Play your own hellmarch, noobs.
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|7000|Toronto | Canada

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

* Bullfrog Transport: Utilizes man-cannon to shoot infantry (including armored bears!!) onto land, and the units will parachute to the ground.
Game over
Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6946|Espoo, Finland
* No Prism Tech
?!? WHAT ?!?

Seriously, prism towers were the sexyest base defence in any game ever.

Last edited by Gawwad (2008-03-14 17:28:50)

{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7021|San Antonio, Texas

Gawwad wrote:

* No Prism Tech
?!? WHAT ?!?

Seriously, prism towers were the sexyest base defence in any game ever.

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

Storyline:
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Soviets activate Chronosphere and assassinate Einstein. Return to find USSR intact, but under siege from Japan.
It's basically what RA3's main storyline is.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Without Einstein, the Allies never get the prism tech.

It was over powered anyways.
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6827|England

So first the Allies had the dominant navy. Now thats gone.
They had the Chronosphere...now the Soviets seem to have it (or, from the storyline anyway...).
Soviets no longer have the better airforce...the allies do.
Particle Cannon has been ripped from CnC, and Generals, and now appears in RA. Fantastic.

It almost looks like, compared to Generals:
GLA = Allies
China = Soviets
USA = Japan

What other pile of shit reversals have taken place? It looks good, graphically, but I have this feeling its going to be a flump from gameplay and traditionalist points of view, just like RA2 was. Ill probably still buy it, but im not getting my hopes up.
RA1 > All. Forever.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6729
I came

Edit: and Snake, why you gotta be a buzz-killer, everyone in the whole fucking world loved RA2 except for you. Kirovs were the shit.

Last edited by DoctaStrangelove (2008-03-14 18:03:35)

DefCon-17
Maple Syrup Faggot
+362|6417|Vancouver | Canada

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

I came

Edit: and Snake, why you gotta be a buzz-killer, everyone in the whole fucking world loved RA2 except for you. Kirovs were the shit.
Don't forget Boris with his tank-killing rifle.

And the Apocalypse Tanks...or was that Yuri's Revenge?
Anyways..I loved those tanks.
"It will soon be a wasteland."
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6222|Washington DC
I'll be honest here... I... I never played RA or RA2.

I'll get 'em at some point but if not, I'm very eager that RA3 will make this RA-virgin shit bricks.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6729

DefCon-17 wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

I came

Edit: and Snake, why you gotta be a buzz-killer, everyone in the whole fucking world loved RA2 except for you. Kirovs were the shit.
Don't forget Boris with his tank-killing rifle.

And the Apocalypse Tanks...or was that Yuri's Revenge?
Anyways..I loved those tanks.
"It will soon be a wasteland."
boris was YR, the Apocs were RA2
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6827|England

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

Edit: and Snake, why you gotta be a buzz-killer, everyone in the whole fucking world loved RA2 except for you. Kirovs were the shit.
Oh, ok, ill be all "Oh, I cant wait for this. It looks amazing, zomg!". Sorry, but unlike some people, I speak my mind. Sorry if not everyone in the world shares your point of view.
Speaking of which, Kirovs failed.
Nothing in the C&C world has come close to the glory of RA1 yet, and I doubt it ever will. In terms of gameplay and replayability, Ive been let down by every C&C title since RA1 (Ive bought/played all except for C&C3, of which I played the demo a bit), hence Im not getting my hopes up.
Happy? Or am I not allowed to express my opinion anymore?

Last edited by Snake (2008-03-15 01:47:20)

¦TØP¦straz_mataz
Member
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i played so much RA2 it was ridiculous
hopefully this game will live up too my expectations
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6675|Finland

How can they make naval warfare any more stronger than RA1... The best Allied unit was the Cruiser lulz....

And what about the storyline... is this a 'what if...' scenario of the RA2 in which Allies don't have Einstein? lol wut....
It sounds like they are now giving Soviets the advantage, not the Allies like in RA2....

no nukes? oh damn... and where did they get the idea to put stupid particle cannon there....

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-03-15 04:32:57)

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Kirov reporting...
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Gawwad
My way or Haddaway!
+212|6946|Espoo, Finland
The whole 'no einstein' thing reminds me how they removed half the units from C&C 3 compared to tiberian sun...
Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|6991|Uhh... erm...
A fecking particle cannon???



Couldn't they just give the Allies a Gravity Manipulator that slingshots meteors into the enemy base? That'd be .


And no Prism tech FTL. FTMFL.
max
Vela Incident
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Fuck. I'd knew they would fuck up. Damn you EA; long live Westwood!
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RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6826|Area 51
OMG! Kirov Airships! They've brought them back, or this game is going to be leetcakes covered in leetsauce

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